4 shotgun robberies across Liverpool...but, didn't they ban guns?

[2aguy]

Yep.....the British police have stated to the press, they cannot stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain...

Week of terror after four shotgun robberies across Liverpool

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Yep.....the British police have stated to the press, they cannot stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain...

Week of terror after four shotgun robberies across Liverpool

When were shotguns banned in the UK ? Maybe it needs to be looked at ?

 

[2aguy]

Yep.....the British police have stated to the press, they cannot stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain...

Week of terror after four shotgun robberies across Liverpool

When were shotguns banned in the UK ? Maybe it needs to be looked at ?

For criminals....from the beginning of criminal law and the creation of the first firearm......but they still get them....

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Yep.....the British police have stated to the press, they cannot stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain...

Week of terror after four shotgun robberies across Liverpool

When were shotguns banned in the UK ? Maybe it needs to be looked at ?

For criminals....from the beginning of criminal law and the creation of the first firearm......but they still get them....

You have no idea if the gunman had a record. Stop making things up.

 

[2aguy]

Yep.....the British police have stated to the press, they cannot stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain...

Week of terror after four shotgun robberies across Liverpool

When were shotguns banned in the UK ? Maybe it needs to be looked at ?

For criminals....from the beginning of criminal law and the creation of the first firearm......but they still get them....

You have no idea if the gunman had a record. Stop making things up.

Yes......he walked into 4 stores with pals, and robbed them......so yeah, I might be making a wild guess, but something tells me he has a record of crime and violence........

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Here's your MASS KILLER. Worse kind imaginable.

You folks have plenty of your own crime and some really messed up people.
You're so busy sticking your nose into places it doesn't belong you can't see the mess in your own backyard.

British nurse accused of murdering eight babies, attempted murder of at least nine more: police
British nurse accused of murdering eight babies, attempted murder of at least nine more: police

 

[Toronado3800]

Yep.....the British police have stated to the press, they cannot stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain...

Week of terror after four shotgun robberies across Liverpool

"17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun murder in U.S. down 49% since 1990s.
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun crime in U.S. down 75% since 1990s.
17 .25 million Americans carry guns. Violent crime down 72% since the 1990s. "

Put the percentage of Americans who carried guns down for both pre-1990 and 2018 or whatever so your stats have some meaning. Otherwise its like saying, "4 people own red cars, red cars are the most popular".

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Yep.....the British police have stated to the press, they cannot stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain...

Week of terror after four shotgun robberies across Liverpool

When were shotguns banned in the UK ? Maybe it needs to be looked at ?

For criminals....from the beginning of criminal law and the creation of the first firearm......but they still get them....

You have no idea if the gunman had a record. Stop making things up.

Yes......he walked into 4 stores with pals, and robbed them......so yeah, I might be making a wild guess, but something tells me he has a record of crime and violence........

Well you are guessing. Usually you just make stuff up.

 

[2aguy]

Yep.....the British police have stated to the press, they cannot stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain...

Week of terror after four shotgun robberies across Liverpool

"17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun murder in U.S. down 49% since 1990s.
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun crime in U.S. down 75% since 1990s.
17 .25 million Americans carry guns. Violent crime down 72% since the 1990s. "

Put the percentage of Americans who carried guns down for both pre-1990 and 2018 or whatever so your stats have some meaning. Otherwise its like saying, "4 people own red cars, red cars are the most popular".

There is only so much room in the signature line, hence the abbreviated nature of the stats.

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

 

[Likkmee]

lawz only affect those who can't afford a legal team.

 

[Vagabond63]

Here's your MASS KILLER. Worse kind imaginable.

You folks have plenty of your own crime and some really messed up people.
You're so busy sticking your nose into places it doesn't belong you can't see the mess in your own backyard.

British nurse accused of murdering eight babies, attempted murder of at least nine more: police
British nurse accused of murdering eight babies, attempted murder of at least nine more: police

Every society has it's lunatics, fortunately thay are few and far between, seems most of ours seem to have gone to the "New World" a few hundred years ago. Oh, here's one of yours. New Jersey mom charged with murder after stabbing 5-day-old baby: police

 

[Vagabond63]

Yep.....the British police have stated to the press, they cannot stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain...

Week of terror after four shotgun robberies across Liverpool

"17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun murder in U.S. down 49% since 1990s.
17.25 million Americans carry guns. Gun crime in U.S. down 75% since 1990s.
17 .25 million Americans carry guns. Violent crime down 72% since the 1990s. "

Put the percentage of Americans who carried guns down for both pre-1990 and 2018 or whatever so your stats have some meaning. Otherwise its like saying, "4 people own red cars, red cars are the most popular".

There is only so much room in the signature line, hence the abbreviated nature of the stats.

Over the last 26 years, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 17.25 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2018...guess what happened...


-- gun murder down 49%

--gun crime down 75%

--violent crime down 72%

Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware

Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.

Except there is no correlation betwen gun ownership and declines in thes crime rates, already answered this in another thread.

 

[Vagabond63]

Yep.....the British police have stated to the press, they cannot stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain...

Week of terror after four shotgun robberies across Liverpool

Shotguns aren't illegal over here, you idiot. He could have bought the gun legally if he passed the background checks or stolen one from a "law abiding citizen". Another non-story used to push your schilling for the NRA.

 

[K9Buck]

Here's your MASS KILLER. Worse kind imaginable.

You folks have plenty of your own crime and some really messed up people.
You're so busy sticking your nose into places it doesn't belong you can't see the mess in your own backyard.

British nurse accused of murdering eight babies, attempted murder of at least nine more: police
British nurse accused of murdering eight babies, attempted murder of at least nine more: police

This story can't be true, after all, there are laws against murder.

 

[Deplorable Yankee]

Why does the thread have foreigners calling for American gun control
When will it ever dawn on them that theyre extremely stupid

 

[Vagabond63]

Why does the thread have foreigners calling for American gun control
When will it ever dawn on them that theyre extremely stupid

OK, as regards extreme stupidity,

1) This thread was started by an American to promote a pro-gun agenda in a forum dedicated to Europe.
2) Neither myself or any European poster on this forum is calling for American gun control, unless I've missed something.

If you Yanks want to play "gunfight at the OK Corral" or "Friday night firefight", every night in your towns and cities using real firearms, feel free, it's your country. What annoys me is when you try to use our laws, that work for us, to justify the messes your lack of adequate gun control causes.

 

[2aguy]

Here's your MASS KILLER. Worse kind imaginable.

You folks have plenty of your own crime and some really messed up people.
You're so busy sticking your nose into places it doesn't belong you can't see the mess in your own backyard.

British nurse accused of murdering eight babies, attempted murder of at least nine more: police
British nurse accused of murdering eight babies, attempted murder of at least nine more: police

Every society has it's lunatics, fortunately thay are few and far between, seems most of ours seem to have gone to the "New World" a few hundred years ago. Oh, here's one of yours. New Jersey mom charged with murder after stabbing 5-day-old baby: police

Really? And the baby killers in your country don't exist? You really are stupid....

Police investigating baby deaths at Chester hospital rearrest nurse

A children’s nurse who was arrested nearly a year ago on suspicion of murdering eight babies and attempting to kill a further six is now suspected of trying to murder another three infants.

 

[2aguy]

Yep.....the British police have stated to the press, they cannot stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain...

Week of terror after four shotgun robberies across Liverpool

Shotguns aren't illegal over here, you idiot. He could have bought the gun legally if he passed the background checks or stolen one from a "law abiding citizen". Another non-story used to push your schilling for the NRA.

Shotguns are illegal for criminals, you moron....yet they apparently still get them, along with any other gun they want....again, the British police have stated they can't stop the increasing flow of illegal guns into Britain......

Police struggle to stop flood of firearms into UK


Police and border officials are struggling to stop a rising supply of illegal firearms being smuggled into Britain, a senior police chief has warned.

Chief constable Andy Cooke, the national police lead for serious and organised crime, said law enforcement had seen an increased supply of guns over the past year, and feared that it would continue in 2019

The Guardian has learned that the situation is so serious that the National Crime Agency has taken the rare step of using its legal powers to direct every single police force to step up the fight against illegal guns.

The NCA has used tasking powers to direct greater intelligence about firearms to be gathered by all 43 forces in England and Wales.

Another senior law enforcement official said that “new and clean” weapons were now being used in the majority of shootings, as opposed to guns once being so difficult to obtain that they would be “rented out” to be used in multiple crimes.

Cooke, the Merseyside chief constable, told the Guardian: “We in law enforcement expect the rise in new firearms to continue. We are doing all we can. We are not in a position to stop it anytime soon.

“Law enforcement is more joined up now than before, but the scale of the problem is such that despite a number of excellent firearms seizures, I expect the rise in supply to be a continuing issue.”

The increasing supply of guns belies problems with UK border security and innovations by organised crime gangs. Smugglers have increasingly found new ways and innovative routes to get guns past border defences.


Cooke said that the dynamics of the streets of British cities had changed and that criminals were more willing to use guns: “If they bring them in people will buy them. It’s a kudos thing for organised criminals.”

Simon Brough, head of firearms at the NCA, said: “The majority of guns being used are new, clean firearms ... which indicates a relatively fluid supply.”

He said shotguns were 40% of the total, with an increase in burglaries to try and steal them.

Handguns are the next biggest category, most often smuggled in from overseas, with ferry ports such as Dover being a popular entry point into the UK for organised crime groups:

“We’re doing a lot to fight back against it,” Brough said, adding that compared to other European countries, the availability in the UK was relatively lower.
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[Tommy Tainant]

Here's your MASS KILLER. Worse kind imaginable.

You folks have plenty of your own crime and some really messed up people.
You're so busy sticking your nose into places it doesn't belong you can't see the mess in your own backyard.

British nurse accused of murdering eight babies, attempted murder of at least nine more: police
British nurse accused of murdering eight babies, attempted murder of at least nine more: police

Every society has it's lunatics, fortunately thay are few and far between, seems most of ours seem to have gone to the "New World" a few hundred years ago. Oh, here's one of yours. New Jersey mom charged with murder after stabbing 5-day-old baby: police

Really? And the baby killers in your country don't exist? You really are stupid....

Police investigating baby deaths at Chester hospital rearrest nurse

A children’s nurse who was arrested nearly a year ago on suspicion of murdering eight babies and attempting to kill a further six is now suspected of trying to murder another three infants.

We really need to take learning from the US on this issue. How did you stop serial killers in the States ?

 

[2aguy]

Here's your MASS KILLER. Worse kind imaginable.

You folks have plenty of your own crime and some really messed up people.
You're so busy sticking your nose into places it doesn't belong you can't see the mess in your own backyard.

British nurse accused of murdering eight babies, attempted murder of at least nine more: police
British nurse accused of murdering eight babies, attempted murder of at least nine more: police

Every society has it's lunatics, fortunately thay are few and far between, seems most of ours seem to have gone to the "New World" a few hundred years ago. Oh, here's one of yours. New Jersey mom charged with murder after stabbing 5-day-old baby: police

Really? And the baby killers in your country don't exist? You really are stupid....

Police investigating baby deaths at Chester hospital rearrest nurse

A children’s nurse who was arrested nearly a year ago on suspicion of murdering eight babies and attempting to kill a further six is now suspected of trying to murder another three infants.

We really need to take learning from the US on this issue. How did you stop serial killers in the States ?

My post was responding to the dumb post #11 where the idiot used the death of one baby to make a point.......

How did you stop gun crime in Britain.....? Oh, right, you didn't.