3000 miles on a single charge

[Old Rocks]

If they can put this into production, it will end range anxiety, as well as ending ICE cars and opening the door for electrical aviation., I imagine they are scrambling to bring this to production as it will put whomever first put's it into EV's into the drivers seat. You can put a battery a third the size of the present batteries into and EV and still have a thousand miles of range. So you have a much lighter EV with far more range than the present EV's. Just one of the many battery innovations coming out of labs at present.
"Researchers at Pohang University of Science & Technology (POSTECH) have introduced a revolutionary technique that can amplify the energy storage capacity of batteries by an astonishing tenfold. This leap forward not only propels battery technology to new heights but also has the potential to reshape the entire landscape of electric vehicles."

MSN

 

[WorldWatcher]

If they can put this into production, it will end range anxiety, as well as ending ICE cars and opening the door for electrical aviation., I imagine they are scrambling to bring this to production as it will put whomever first put's it into EV's into the drivers seat. You can put a battery a third the size of the present batteries into and EV and still have a thousand miles of range. So you have a much lighter EV with far more range than the present EV's. Just one of the many battery innovations coming out of labs at present.
"Researchers at Pohang University of Science & Technology (POSTECH) have introduced a revolutionary technique that can amplify the energy storage capacity of batteries by an astonishing tenfold. This leap forward not only propels battery technology to new heights but also has the potential to reshape the entire landscape of electric vehicles."

MSN

While it might have applications, for the average consumer car a 3,000 mile range is overkill because you are talking 10,000-12,000 miles per year.

If such an increase were to be achieved for production vehicles, it would seem to make sense to reduce the size of the battery*** providing 500-1000 mile range and cutting down the size of the batter by 66%+

*** And therefore vehicle weight, a major complaint with EV's is the increased weight due to the battery for the same size ICE car.

WW

 

[pknopp]

It still wouldn't end ICE vehicles. But the technology will continue to improve.

 

[Dr.Destructo]

If they can put this into production, it will end range anxiety, as well as ending ICE cars and opening the door for electrical aviation., I imagine they are scrambling to bring this to production as it will put whomever first put's it into EV's into the drivers seat. You can put a battery a third the size of the present batteries into and EV and still have a thousand miles of range. So you have a much lighter EV with far more range than the present EV's. Just one of the many battery innovations coming out of labs at present.
"Researchers at Pohang University of Science & Technology (POSTECH) have introduced a revolutionary technique that can amplify the energy storage capacity of batteries by an astonishing tenfold. This leap forward not only propels battery technology to new heights but also has the potential to reshape the entire landscape of electric vehicles."

MSN

All they have to do is develop a high charging alternator they can put in EVs that will keep the battery they have in it, self sustaining and charged. No need for "bigger" batteries.

 

[WorldWatcher]

All they have to do is develop a high charging alternator they can put in EVs that will keep the battery they have in it, self sustaining and charged. No need for "bigger" batteries.

Alternators are mechanical devices that generate electricity.

So what provides the mechanical energy?

(Sounds like you are talking hybrid vs. EV.)

WW

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

If they can put this into production, it will end range anxiety, as well as ending ICE cars and opening the door for electrical aviation., I imagine they are scrambling to bring this to production as it will put whomever first put's it into EV's into the drivers seat. You can put a battery a third the size of the present batteries into and EV and still have a thousand miles of range. So you have a much lighter EV with far more range than the present EV's. Just one of the many battery innovations coming out of labs at present.
"Researchers at Pohang University of Science & Technology (POSTECH) have introduced a revolutionary technique that can amplify the energy storage capacity of batteries by an astonishing tenfold. This leap forward not only propels battery technology to new heights but also has the potential to reshape the entire landscape of electric vehicles."

MSN

Sounds like a scam.

 

[Mac-7]

"Researchers at Pohang University of Science & Technology (POSTECH) have introduced a revolutionary technique

That sounds like a massage parlor with an all-chinese staff

 

[Dr.Destructo]

Alternators are mechanical devices that generate electricity.

So what provides the mechanical energy?

(Sounds like you are talking hybrid vs. EV.)

WW

The vehicle uses the battery to work the motors.
The alternator is used to charge the battery.
Therefore, the battery is always being charged when the vehicle is in motion.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

All they have to do is develop a high charging alternator they can put in EVs that will keep the battery they have in it, self sustaining and charged. No need for "bigger" batteries.

Just go with hybrids for now

 

[WorldWatcher]

The vehicle uses the battery to work the motors.
The alternator is used to charge the battery.
Therefore, the battery is always being charged when the vehicle is in motion.

Perpetual motion isn't a thing.

Energy from the batteries used to work the locomotion motors isn't being used to run the alternator.

Energy from the batteries used to drive the alternator isn't being used by the motors for locomotion.

Even if 100% of the battery were used to run the alternator to feed back into the battery it's not 100% efficient and there would be losses. Meaning even then the batteries will be drained.

WW

 

[Old Rocks]

While it might have applications, for the average consumer car a 3,000 mile range is overkill because you are talking 10,000-12,000 miles per year.

If such an increase were to be achieved for production vehicles, it would seem to make sense to reduce the size of the battery*** providing 500-1000 mile range and cutting down the size of the batter by 66%+

*** And therefore vehicle weight, a major complaint with EV's is the increased weight due to the battery for the same size ICE car.

WW

Totally agree. However, for aviation and heavy equipment, this battery would be a game changer.

 

[Old Rocks]

All they have to do is develop a high charging alternator they can put in EVs that will keep the battery they have in it, self sustaining and charged. No need for "bigger" batteries.

The present motors in most EV's, even the electric bike I have, charge when slowing down. Regenerative braking is the standard with most EV's.

 

[Old Rocks]

"Researchers at Pohang University of Science & Technology (POSTECH) have introduced a revolutionary technique

That sounds like a massage parlor with an all-chinese staff

Of course instead of revealing one's ignorance and stupidity by posting something like that, you could look up the university.

About Pohang University of Science and Technology (POSTECH)​

Basic information and contact details for Pohang University of Science and Technology (POSTECH)

Established in 1986, Pohang University of Science and Technology (POSTECH) was founded with the purpose of contributing to the nation and humanity by conducting in-depth research on the profound theories and a wide range of applications essential to advancing Korea and the world. It strives to train a select pool of talented students to become future global leaders with both knowledge and honorable character through high-quality education. On the research front, POSTECH translates research outcomes into real-world applications via close collaborations with industry, academia, and research institutions.

In order to fulfill its mission, POSTECH focuses on advanced research in diverse fields of basic science and engineering by partnering with world-leading universities and on becoming a global hub for research on materials.

With emphasis on well-rounded and specialized education to raise creative intellectuals with integrity, POSTECH strives to become a world-class university by continuing to expand the scope of industry-academia collaboration to improve human welfare.

To learn more about POSTECH, please visit POSTECH.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Totally agree. However, for aviation and heavy equipment, this battery would be a game changer.

Yes, a magical battery like this would be great for planes.

 

[WorldWatcher]

The present motors in most EV's, even the electric bike I have, charge when slowing down. Regenerative braking is the standard with most EV's.

But even regenerative breaking does not overcome the system loses, it recovers some of the electrical energy that was converted to kinetic energy and returns it back to the system as electrical energy.

I know you get this, but for others...

Say you have "energy" in common units. Let's call them wigioules (widget joules). 100 Units of wigijoules are stored in a battery. 10 wigijoules are used to accelerate a vehicle, 90 wigijoules remain in the battery. Then brakes are applied and regenerative breaking kicks in and 4 wigijoules are returned to the battery. (We will ignore the wigijoules used just to maintain the movement speed for X time.)

So if there were 100, acceleration used 10 and 90 remained, then with deceleration 4 were recovered. That leaves the battery with 94 wigijoules. The other 6 wigijoules were lost due to no system being 100% efficient, loss as heat, etc.

WW

 

[Mac-7]

Of course instead of revealing one's ignorance and stupidity by posting something like that, you could look up the university.

About Pohang University of Science and Technology (POSTECH)​

Basic information and contact details for Pohang University of Science and Technology (POSTECH)

Established in 1986, Pohang University of Science and Technology (POSTECH) was founded with the purpose of contributing to the nation and humanity by conducting in-depth research on the profound theories and a wide range of applications essential to advancing Korea and the world. It strives to train a select pool of talented students to become future global leaders with both knowledge and honorable character through high-quality education. On the research front, POSTECH translates research outcomes into real-world applications via close collaborations with industry, academia, and research institutions.

In order to fulfill its mission, POSTECH focuses on advanced research in diverse fields of basic science and engineering by partnering with world-leading universities and on becoming a global hub for research on materials.

With emphasis on well-rounded and specialized education to raise creative intellectuals with integrity, POSTECH strives to become a world-class university by continuing to expand the scope of industry-academia collaboration to improve human welfare.

To learn more about POSTECH, please visit POSTECH.

If EVs were better they would sell themselves instead of having to be subsidized and pushed

Maybe someday they will improve enough that libs will not have to twist the public’s arm to buy them

 

[fncceo]

POSTECH

Piece of Shite Tech?

 

[Old Rocks]

But even regenerative breaking does not overcome the system loses, it recovers some of the electrical energy that was converted to kinetic energy and returns it back to the system as electrical energy.

I know you get this, but for others...

Say you have "energy" in common units. Let's call them wigioules (widget joules). 100 Units of wigijoules are stored in a battery. 10 wigijoules are used to accelerate a vehicle, 90 wigijoules remain in the battery. Then brakes are applied and regenerative breaking kicks in and 4 wigijoules are returned to the battery. (We will ignore the wigijoules used just to maintain the movement speed for X time.)

So if there were 100, acceleration used 10 and 90 remained, then with deceleration 4 were recovered. That leaves the battery with 94 wigijoules. The other 6 wigijoules were lost due to no system being 100% efficient, loss as heat, etc.

WW

Exactly. But those four recovered wigijoules contribute to the overall efficiency of the system. You get nothing in return for slowing with gas or diesel except worn brakes.

 

[Old Rocks]

Piece of Shite Tech?

Speaking of yourself?

 

[Old Rocks]

If EVs were better they would sell themselves instead of having to be subsidized and pushed

Maybe someday they will improve enough that libs will not have to twist the public’s arm to buy them

Many are not being subsidized at present and are still selling. And if this tech is mass produced, there will zero need for subsidies, as the vehicles will be less costly than equivalent ICE vehicles, last longer, and cost less to drive and maintain.