25 years later, questions remain about Oklahoma City.

[the other mike]

I'm not weaponizing it, I'm applying it properly.

A tool for some cyber-security firm probably, under NDA, maybe Coalfire - isn't that the one Carlisle Group and Chertoff merged after 9/11 ?

 

[DrLove]

The Murrah build was the regional office for the FBI, yet not a single FBI agent was in the building at the time of the blast.
Coincidence?? ...

Scoured the internet no FBI office listed in that building at that time.


The building was designed by architects Stephen H. Horton and Wendell Locke of Locke, Wright and Associates and constructed by J.W. Bateson using reinforced concrete in 1977[2] at a cost of $14.5 million. The building, named for federal judge Alfred P. Murrah, an Oklahoma native, opened on March 2, 1977.[3]

By the 1990s, the building contained regional offices for the Social Security Administration, the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development, the United States Secret Service, the Department of Veterans Affairs vocational rehabilitation counseling center, the Drug Enforcement Administration (D.E.A.), and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms (ATF). It also contained recruiting offices for the US Military. It housed approximately 550 employees.[4] It also housed America's Kids, a children's day care center.

Yea, Republican NRA member McVeigh was a big fan of pedophile, bunker dwelling, barrel-stroking nutcase Davey Koresh. Believe he was mostly after the ATF. There were maybe a dozen or two of those guys, the rest of those 168 (including children) were "collateral damage".

 

[anynameyouwish]

In an interview a few years ago, Hillary Clinton referred to the Murrah Building bombing as one of many 'conspiracies theories' circulating around regarding cover-ups by the government. If that wasn't some kind of Freudian slip, I don't know what is.

Anyone who saw the televised coverage of the bombed-out Murrah
Building didn't need to be a rocket scientist to realize that the tremendous destruction done didn't come from a single bomb in a vehicle `outside' the building. But, rather, it should have been obvious to any fourteen-year-old boy of average intelligence that the Murrah Building was literally "dropped" by blowing several of the reinforced concrete supporting columns and part of the massive reinforced concrete header supporting the building out from under it. This occurred as Gen. Partin said, "at critical structural points at the third floor level." Did the bombers plant explosives in other parts of the building as well?

The importance of Jane Graham

OKLAHOMA CITY (KOKH) - She was at work, on the ninth floor of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. It was a minute after 9:00 a.m. on April 19, 1995 when Jane Graham would find herself knocked over from the explosion that tore through the building.

Bombing survivor denied access to unknown DNA profile from unidentified victim

OKLAHOMA CITY (KOKH) - She was at work, on the ninth floor of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. It was a minute after 9:00 a.m. on April 19, 1995 when Jane Graham would find herself knocked over from the explosion that tore through the building.More

okcfox.com

Oklahoma City bombing: 20 years later, key questions remain unanswered

Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols have faced three trials and a vast FBI investigation – but many details of the attack remain unexplained

www.theguardian.com

25 Years After the Oklahoma City Bombing

Most of us remember where we were when the terrorist bomb shattered our sense of peace in this usually quiet community. The shockwave travelled for miles and across time.

www.psychiatrictimes.com

so you are saying that 911 was an INSIDE job?

no doubt conducted by liberal democrats....?

 

[the other mike]

so you are saying that 911 was an INSIDE job?

no doubt conducted by liberal democrats....?

Seems like I never mentioned 9/11 or liberal democrats in the op, sooooooo, what's your point Huckleberry ?

 

[the other mike]

Yea, Republican NRA member McVeigh was a big fan of pedophile, bunker dwelling, barrel-stroking nutcase Davey Koresh. Believe he was mostly after the ATF. There were maybe a dozen or two of those guys, the rest of those 168 (including children) were "collateral damage".

Slick Willy's FBI showed no mercy.

However, FBI Director William Sessions publicly denied the charge and told reporters that they had no such information about child abuse inside the Mount Carmel Center.[24] A careful examination of the other child abuse charges found the evidence to be weak and ambiguous, casting doubt on the allegations.[25]

David Koresh - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[DrLove]

Yea, Republican NRA member McVeigh was a big fan of pedophile, bunker dwelling, barrel-stroking nutcase Davey Koresh. Believe he was mostly after the ATF. There were maybe a dozen or two of those guys, the rest of those 168 (including children) were "collateral damage".

Slick Willy's FBI showed no mercy.

However, FBI Director William Sessions publicly denied the charge and told reporters that they had no such information about child abuse inside the Mount Carmel Center.[24] A careful examination of the other child abuse charges found the evidence to be weak and ambiguous, casting doubt on the allegations.[25]

David Koresh - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Bullshit - Choose your source

david koresh child brides

1. Sexual Abuse

Rumors about Koresh's sexual practices with girls persisted for years prior to the ATF raid. Former compound members told stories about Koresh's alleged practice of having sex with girls as young as twelve. Evidence suggested that Koresh had "wives" who were in their mid-teens, that Koresh told detailed and inappropriate sexual stories in front of the children during his Bible study sessions, and that Koresh taught the young girls that it was a privilege for them to become old enough (i.e., reach puberty) to have sex with him. One former compound member described how Koresh would invent theological justifications for his sexual desires, whether they involved having sex with young girls or with other men's adult wives. According to information provided to the FBI, at least two minor girls were "wives" of Koresh at the time of the standoff.

The following are excerpts from materials compiled by the FBI during the standoff providing examples of Koresh's historical (i.e., pre-February 28, 1993) sexual practices with young girls.

Report to the Deputy Attorney General on the Events at Waco, Texas: Child Abuse

www.justice.gov

 

[the other mike]

Bullshit - Choose your source

Doesn't excuse the FBI massacre.

 

[Corazon]

Have you ever seen a murderer or terrorist executed as fast as McVeigh was?....

It did take 6 years for Mr. McVeigh to take a seat in Old Smoky.

Not exactly overnight.

That's twice as long as it took to execute the Rosenbergs.

He was convicted and sentenced to death in 1997. Less than 6 years.

6 years from the date of the crime. 4 years from the date of the conviction. Still not very quick.

Some people were tried and convicted in the 70s and they're still on death row in the USA.
Maybe this has something to do with filing appeals to the courts...

 

[the other mike]

We see what you're about.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

In an interview a few years ago, Hillary Clinton referred to the Murrah Building bombing as one of many 'conspiracies theories' circulating around regarding cover-ups by the government. If that wasn't some kind of Freudian slip, I don't know what is.

Anyone who saw the televised coverage of the bombed-out Murrah
Building didn't need to be a rocket scientist to realize that the tremendous destruction done didn't come from a single bomb in a vehicle `outside' the building. But, rather, it should have been obvious to any fourteen-year-old boy of average intelligence that the Murrah Building was literally "dropped" by blowing several of the reinforced concrete supporting columns and part of the massive reinforced concrete header supporting the building out from under it. This occurred as Gen. Partin said, "at critical structural points at the third floor level." Did the bombers plant explosives in other parts of the building as well?

The importance of Jane Graham

OKLAHOMA CITY (KOKH) - She was at work, on the ninth floor of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. It was a minute after 9:00 a.m. on April 19, 1995 when Jane Graham would find herself knocked over from the explosion that tore through the building.

Bombing survivor denied access to unknown DNA profile from unidentified victim

OKLAHOMA CITY (KOKH) - She was at work, on the ninth floor of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. It was a minute after 9:00 a.m. on April 19, 1995 when Jane Graham would find herself knocked over from the explosion that tore through the building.More

okcfox.com

Oklahoma City bombing: 20 years later, key questions remain unanswered

Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols have faced three trials and a vast FBI investigation – but many details of the attack remain unexplained

www.theguardian.com

25 Years After the Oklahoma City Bombing

Most of us remember where we were when the terrorist bomb shattered our sense of peace in this usually quiet community. The shockwave travelled for miles and across time.

www.psychiatrictimes.com

so you are saying that 911 was an INSIDE job?

no doubt conducted by liberal democrats....?

9/11 was an inside job,that can’t be debated anymore. My previous post explained why it was done.read David ray griffins book debunking the 9/11 debunking.nobody in the world has been able to counter or refute the evidence in it. Democrats? Seriously? Bush’s pal Clinton is the only known democrat involved,the first bombing of the trade towers Carried out by the CIA happened under clinton,they failed the first time so they came back and succeeded the second time under bush and the neocons and his administration.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Yea, Republican NRA member McVeigh was a big fan of pedophile, bunker dwelling, barrel-stroking nutcase Davey Koresh. Believe he was mostly after the ATF. There were maybe a dozen or two of those guys, the rest of those 168 (including children) were "collateral damage".

Slick Willy's FBI showed no mercy.

However, FBI Director William Sessions publicly denied the charge and told reporters that they had no such information about child abuse inside the Mount Carmel Center.[24] A careful examination of the other child abuse charges found the evidence to be weak and ambiguous, casting doubt on the allegations.[25]

David Koresh - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Agent sock puppet dr love got checkmated again as always.lol

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Bullshit - Choose your source

Doesn't excuse the FBI massacre.

Indeed,clinton,Reno,and the entire fbi and atf should have All Been executed in public for their murdering of women and children

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I'm not referring to age, but maturity level.

Typical Internet troll aren't you ?

Weaponizing the Term Conspiracy Theory - Disinformation Agents and the CIA

It wasn’t very many years after the world-wide web became operational that it was contaminated by secret disinformation agencies and also by individuals that were eventually called internet trolls. Trolls (defined below) began interjecting themselves – uninvited and unwanted – into otherwise...

www.usmessageboard.com

They always expose that about them.

If they were not and they were just brainwashed sheep conditioned by the government,they would avoid this section since they are so much convinced the official story is the truth and close minded,they would do what many closed minded sheep do Here,they would never come to this section since they refuse to look at the evidence or address facts.

the ones that do come here all the time that never look at the facts of government corruption as this sockpuppet,dr love and toddsrer parrot,they always expose themselves as paid shills by coming here everyday and lying all the time. If they were just merely braindead,they would never come here to this section but these shills get big bucks by coming here everyday to this section to troll.

the ones that are just in denial,they always leave and don’t come back,they don’t post lie after lie when backed up against the wall with facts they can’t refute.

 

[Shawnee_b]

The Murrah build was the regional office for the FBI, yet not a single FBI agent was in the building at the time of the blast.
Coincidence?? ...

Correct. They blamed Mcveign and his accomplice. Supposedly anfo, duel and fertilizer, truck full. Know how long it takes to make a drum of anfo? Fert has to be powdered, thoroughly mixed and even a truckload would not take down that building.

 

[the other mike]

Correct. They blamed Mcveign and his accomplice. Supposedly anfo, duel and fertilizer, truck full. Know how long it takes to make a drum of anfo? Fert has to be powdered, thoroughly mixed and even a truckload would not take down that building.

Nichols was McVieghs' platoon sgt in Iraq, and
this was more than just a random terrorist attack.
Most likely a black op assignment, which nobody can ever prove.

 

[candycorn]

Have you ever seen a murderer or terrorist executed as fast as McVeigh was?....

The feds don't have the same lengthy appeals process the States have since the federal courts are already involved.

 

[candycorn]

Strange how none of these whacky conspiracy theories about OKC, 9/11, etc... ever come true. The only questions anyone is asking about OKC is 'why'. McVeigh did it. Case closed.

 

[Dale Smith]

In an interview a few years ago, Hillary Clinton referred to the Murrah Building bombing as one of many 'conspiracies theories' circulating around regarding cover-ups by the government. If that wasn't some kind of Freudian slip, I don't know what is.

Anyone who saw the televised coverage of the bombed-out Murrah
Building didn't need to be a rocket scientist to realize that the tremendous destruction done didn't come from a single bomb in a vehicle `outside' the building. But, rather, it should have been obvious to any fourteen-year-old boy of average intelligence that the Murrah Building was literally "dropped" by blowing several of the reinforced concrete supporting columns and part of the massive reinforced concrete header supporting the building out from under it. This occurred as Gen. Partin said, "at critical structural points at the third floor level." Did the bombers plant explosives in other parts of the building as well?

The importance of Jane Graham

OKLAHOMA CITY (KOKH) - She was at work, on the ninth floor of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. It was a minute after 9:00 a.m. on April 19, 1995 when Jane Graham would find herself knocked over from the explosion that tore through the building.

Bombing survivor denied access to unknown DNA profile from unidentified victim

OKLAHOMA CITY (KOKH) - She was at work, on the ninth floor of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. It was a minute after 9:00 a.m. on April 19, 1995 when Jane Graham would find herself knocked over from the explosion that tore through the building.More

okcfox.com

Oklahoma City bombing: 20 years later, key questions remain unanswered

Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols have faced three trials and a vast FBI investigation – but many details of the attack remain unexplained

www.theguardian.com

25 Years After the Oklahoma City Bombing

Most of us remember where we were when the terrorist bomb shattered our sense of peace in this usually quiet community. The shockwave travelled for miles and across time.

www.psychiatrictimes.com

It was nearly 5,000 pounds of ANFO. It's surprising any of the building was still upright.

The rest of your conspiracy garbage is just about as well thought out as that.

Dismissed.

As usual, you are wrong, Creepitus. The amount of ANFO told to us by the Feds continued to grow because the damage did not come even close to the amount of ANFO needed and it would have taken out a lot more than the Murrah Building. I met Brigadier General Benton Partin in August of 2004. We had dinner at Fort Belvoir in Alexandria, Virginia. He explained that explosions leave their own signature which is why fuselages of planes are reconstructed in order to find the cause of the crash. Partin was sent to Lebanon in 1983 when the Marines were killed by a terrorist attack. You see, Brigadier General Benton Partin is an expert in explosives. He explained to me that an ANFO bomb loses PSI as soon as it meets resistance and he proved it scientifically that an ANFO bomb could not powderize concrete encased rebar from the third floor and above and yet they found it on the top floor of the Murrah Building. He was brought to OKC to survey the damage and he told them that explosives had been planted on the columns on the second and fourth floors (which by seismic readings from Tulsa and Norman Oklahoma show two distinct explosions occurred within seconds of each other. He also explained that the amount of Ammonium Nitrate required to cause even a third of the damage would have made the air unbreathable for at least an hour without some type of breathing apparatus because the ammonia would have scalded the lungs....yet OKC cop Terry Yeakey was on the scene in minutes trying to find survivors. He was "suicided" because he refused to sign off on the official report that the Feds wanted him to do. Cody Snodgres, a third party CIA covert operative has come forward and admitted that he had been recruited to carry out this attack in October of 1994 and refused which led to numerous murder attempts on his life. He has done numerous interviews and has a 700 plus page book out "Choosing The Light" and he goes into great detail as to why the Murrah Building was taken down and most of it had to do with records stored there having to do with Gulf War Syndrome after Desert Storm and the investigation into the Mena Airport cocaine trafficking that Bill Clinton and GHW Bush were overseeing which ties into Iran-Contra.....

You are "dismissed"......




General Benton Partin's education history....
B.S., Chemical Engineering, North Carolina State University

M.S., Aeronautical Engineering (Air Ordnance Engineering Option), Air Force Institute Technology

Ph.D. Candidate, Operations Research, Western Reserve University (Academics Completed)

Ph.D. Candidate, Statistics, Western Reserve University (Academics Completed)

Air War College (Distinguished Graduate)

 

[Crepitus]

In an interview a few years ago, Hillary Clinton referred to the Murrah Building bombing as one of many 'conspiracies theories' circulating around regarding cover-ups by the government. If that wasn't some kind of Freudian slip, I don't know what is.

Anyone who saw the televised coverage of the bombed-out Murrah
Building didn't need to be a rocket scientist to realize that the tremendous destruction done didn't come from a single bomb in a vehicle `outside' the building. But, rather, it should have been obvious to any fourteen-year-old boy of average intelligence that the Murrah Building was literally "dropped" by blowing several of the reinforced concrete supporting columns and part of the massive reinforced concrete header supporting the building out from under it. This occurred as Gen. Partin said, "at critical structural points at the third floor level." Did the bombers plant explosives in other parts of the building as well?

The importance of Jane Graham

OKLAHOMA CITY (KOKH) - She was at work, on the ninth floor of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. It was a minute after 9:00 a.m. on April 19, 1995 when Jane Graham would find herself knocked over from the explosion that tore through the building.

Bombing survivor denied access to unknown DNA profile from unidentified victim

OKLAHOMA CITY (KOKH) - She was at work, on the ninth floor of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building. It was a minute after 9:00 a.m. on April 19, 1995 when Jane Graham would find herself knocked over from the explosion that tore through the building.More

okcfox.com

Oklahoma City bombing: 20 years later, key questions remain unanswered

Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols have faced three trials and a vast FBI investigation – but many details of the attack remain unexplained

www.theguardian.com

25 Years After the Oklahoma City Bombing

Most of us remember where we were when the terrorist bomb shattered our sense of peace in this usually quiet community. The shockwave travelled for miles and across time.

www.psychiatrictimes.com

It was nearly 5,000 pounds of ANFO. It's surprising any of the building was still upright.

The rest of your conspiracy garbage is just about as well thought out as that.

Dismissed.

As usual, you are wrong, Creepitus. The amount of ANFO told to us by the Feds continued to grow because the damage did not come even close to the amount of ANFO needed and it would have taken out a lot more than the Murrah Building. I met Brigadier General Benton Partin in August of 2004. We had dinner at Fort Belvoir in Alexandria, Virginia. He explained that explosions leave their own signature which is why fuselages of planes are reconstructed in order to find the cause of the crash. Partin was sent to Lebanon in 1983 when the Marines were killed by a terrorist attack. You see, Brigadier General Benton Partin is an expert in explosives. He explained to me that an ANFO bomb loses PSI as soon as it meets resistance and he proved it scientifically that an ANFO bomb could not powderize concrete encased rebar from the third floor and above and yet they found it on the top floor of the Murrah Building. He was brought to OKC to survey the damage and he told them that explosives had been planted on the columns on the second and fourth floors (which by seismic readings from Tulsa and Norman Oklahoma show two distinct explosions occurred within seconds of each other. He also explained that the amount of Ammonium Nitrate required to cause even a third of the damage would have made the air unbreathable for at least an hour without some type of breathing apparatus because the ammonia would have scalded the lungs....yet OKC cop Terry Yeakey was on the scene in minutes trying to find survivors. He was "suicided" because he refused to sign off on the official report that the Feds wanted him to do. Cody Snodgres, a third party CIA covert operative has come forward and admitted that he had been recruited to carry out this attack in October of 1994 and refused which led to numerous murder attempts on his life. He has done numerous interviews and has a 700 plus page book out "Choosing The Light" and he goes into great detail as to why the Murrah Building was taken down and most of it had to do with records stored there having to do with Gulf War Syndrome after Desert Storm and the investigation into the Mena Airport cocaine trafficking that Bill Clinton and GHW Bush were overseeing which ties into Iran-Contra.....

You are "dismissed"......




General Benton Partin's education history....
B.S., Chemical Engineering, North Carolina State University

M.S., Aeronautical Engineering (Air Ordnance Engineering Option), Air Force Institute Technology

Ph.D. Candidate, Operations Research, Western Reserve University (Academics Completed)

Ph.D. Candidate, Statistics, Western Reserve University (Academics Completed)

Air War College (Distinguished Graduate)

But I'm not wrong.

Sorry if you don't like it, but there is only one set of facts.

 

[Dale Smith]

Strange how none of these whacky conspiracy theories about OKC, 9/11, etc... ever come true. The only questions anyone is asking about OKC is 'why'. McVeigh did it. Case closed.

You were saying???? Educate yourself, troll......