2016 Election Prediction Thread

[Dante]

Yeah, I hate the bitch only slightly less than I hate Obama. But Pillsbury boy Bush does not stand a chance against her. Christie has a chance, just maybe...

Really the problem with republicans is that no decent conservative would join the republican party let alone win a republican primary.

Cruze is a horse's ass. Perry is all hat no cattle. Rand is too young, is not his father, and does not have his gravitas. Rubio is the best conservative the republicans have but he's also young and needs at least another 10 years under his belt before he's ready, maybe after a stint as governor.

I can't stand Clinton, but I will never underestimate her. She is incredibly sharp and as oily as they come.

Emotion will always steer you wrong

 

[g5000]

For health care, I believe we should get rid of employer sponsored health insurance, and that everyone should be buying their health insurance the same way we buy our auto, life, and home insurance.

So when you look at where we are now and where I think we should be, to suggest I am asking for comprehensive GOVERNMENT solutions is downright hysterical.

 

[RKMBrown]

I have been watching Clinton for years. She is very quick on her feet. She is able to field any question thrown at her and give long and reasoned replies. She is not going to go down easy, folks, and you are seriously stupid if you think she is.

Do NOT underestimate her. The People will respond positively to her. They already are. You are already way behind and don't even know it.

All your hack media outlets have been able to achieve to this point is to sift through her tens of thousands of publicly spoken words and parse out the odd phrase here and there to stick up in the air for you to jeer.

This is a seriously retarded way to fight, people. You should have learned that in 2008 and 2012.

The funny thing about life's lessons: If you don't learn from them, you will get a chance to learn again.

What difference did she make?

She's not getting the nomination.

She didn't get it in 08 when she was entitled to it, she's not getting in in 2016.

McCain and Romney ran 2 of the worst campaigns in human history. Free of the RNC's drive to Statism, Republican candidates shellacked the Progressives

We'll see what happens. If the pubs do the same as they did the last two times they'll get the same result. Which is, running 10 conservatives against one libtard on the primary ticket. The democrats vote for the libtard to ensure there are two libtards on the ballot for president. Easy as pie.

 

[Carib Gyal]

For health care, I believe we should get rid of employer sponsored health insurance, and that everyone should be buying their health insurance the same way we buy our auto, life, and home insurance.

So when you look at where we are now and where I think we should be, to suggest I am asking for comprehensive GOVERNMENT solutions is downright hysterical.

I seem to recall Hillarycare being laughed off the table.

 

[RKMBrown]

For health care, I believe we should get rid of employer sponsored health insurance, and that everyone should be buying their health insurance the same way we buy our auto, life, and home insurance.

So when you look at where we are now and where I think we should be, to suggest I am asking for comprehensive GOVERNMENT solutions is downright hysterical.

IOW you have no effing idea what the hell you are talking about.

And you are two personalities. One second you are asking for republican "comprehensive" government solutions to everything, the next second you claim you never asked for "comprehensive" government solutions.

 

[g5000]

For health care, I believe we should get rid of employer sponsored health insurance, and that everyone should be buying their health insurance the same way we buy our auto, life, and home insurance.

So when you look at where we are now and where I think we should be, to suggest I am asking for comprehensive GOVERNMENT solutions is downright hysterical.

I seem to recall Hillarycare being laughed off the table.

HillaryCare was a gigantic telegraphed punch by the Democrats that signaled what they would do to American health care if they ever got the chance.

The Republicans responded by completely abdicating the issue. They never put an alternate comprehensive solution on the table even though one was badly needed. Health care costs have been outpacing inflation and GDP for decades.

The Republicans did NOTHING. So it was just a matter of time before a descendant of HillaryCare succeeded. Ta daaaaa! ObamaCare!

All the grinding and gnashing of teeth by the Republican Establishment is just theater for the rubes. They sold us down the river.

Even now, all they have is "Repeal ObamaCare." AND THEN WHAT?!?!

 

[g5000]

For health care, I believe we should get rid of employer sponsored health insurance, and that everyone should be buying their health insurance the same way we buy our auto, life, and home insurance.

So when you look at where we are now and where I think we should be, to suggest I am asking for comprehensive GOVERNMENT solutions is downright hysterical.

IOW you have no effing idea what the hell you are talking about.

And you are two personalities. One second you are asking for republican "comprehensive" government solutions to everything, the next second you claim you never asked for "comprehensive" government solutions.

Nope. You are hallucinating. You MADE UP the word "government" in my post. I never said government solutions.

Open your fucking eyes and look.

The only schizo here is you. Seeing things that are not there.

 

[g5000]

Hey, RMKBrown. Is "repeal ObamaCare" a government solution?

 

[Carib Gyal]

For health care, I believe we should get rid of employer sponsored health insurance, and that everyone should be buying their health insurance the same way we buy our auto, life, and home insurance.

So when you look at where we are now and where I think we should be, to suggest I am asking for comprehensive GOVERNMENT solutions is downright hysterical.

I seem to recall Hillarycare being laughed off the table.

HillaryCare was a gigantic telegraphed punch by the Democrats that signaled what they would do to American health care if they ever got the chance.

The Republicans responded by completely abdicating the issue. They never put an alternate comprehensive solution on the table even though one was badly needed. Health care costs have been outpacing inflation and GDP for decades.

The Republicans did NOTHING. So it was just a matter of time before a descendant of HillaryCare succeeded. Ta daaaaa! ObamaCare!

All the grinding and gnashing of teeth by the Republican Establishment is just theater for the rubes. They sold us down the river.

Even now, all they have is "Repeal ObamaCare." AND THEN WHAT?!?!

Cool logic. It's like saying since the Democrats offered up Jim Crow and the Repubs did nothing, the Dems were justified in returning slavery.

Nothing NEEDED to be done, and doing nothing isn't justification for doing something worse.

 

[g5000]

You will almost always find that when I propose solutions, they are right wing, and even sometimes libertarian, solutions.

Some of you have deluded yourselves into thinking I am a liberal because I spend so much time debunking the right wing lies that are gobbled and regurgitated by rubes.

But I also debunk left wing lies. Your partisan blinders fail to see that, though.

 

[g5000]

For health care, I believe we should get rid of employer sponsored health insurance, and that everyone should be buying their health insurance the same way we buy our auto, life, and home insurance.

So when you look at where we are now and where I think we should be, to suggest I am asking for comprehensive GOVERNMENT solutions is downright hysterical.

I seem to recall Hillarycare being laughed off the table.

HillaryCare was a gigantic telegraphed punch by the Democrats that signaled what they would do to American health care if they ever got the chance.

The Republicans responded by completely abdicating the issue. They never put an alternate comprehensive solution on the table even though one was badly needed. Health care costs have been outpacing inflation and GDP for decades.

The Republicans did NOTHING. So it was just a matter of time before a descendant of HillaryCare succeeded. Ta daaaaa! ObamaCare!

All the grinding and gnashing of teeth by the Republican Establishment is just theater for the rubes. They sold us down the river.

Even now, all they have is "Repeal ObamaCare." AND THEN WHAT?!?!

Cool logic. It's like saying since the Democrats offered up Jim Crow and the Repubs did nothing, the Dems were justified in returning slavery.

Nothing NEEDED to be done, and doing nothing isn't justification for doing something worse.

Something most certainly needed to be done. Health care costs were outpacing inflation, dumbass.

Your false analogy catastrophically fails because there were people who did plenty when the Deep South right wing extremists were offering up Jim Crow. They did not sit on their thumbs.

 

[Carib Gyal]

For health care, I believe we should get rid of employer sponsored health insurance, and that everyone should be buying their health insurance the same way we buy our auto, life, and home insurance.

So when you look at where we are now and where I think we should be, to suggest I am asking for comprehensive GOVERNMENT solutions is downright hysterical.

I seem to recall Hillarycare being laughed off the table.

HillaryCare was a gigantic telegraphed punch by the Democrats that signaled what they would do to American health care if they ever got the chance.

The Republicans responded by completely abdicating the issue. They never put an alternate comprehensive solution on the table even though one was badly needed. Health care costs have been outpacing inflation and GDP for decades.

The Republicans did NOTHING. So it was just a matter of time before a descendant of HillaryCare succeeded. Ta daaaaa! ObamaCare!

All the grinding and gnashing of teeth by the Republican Establishment is just theater for the rubes. They sold us down the river.

Even now, all they have is "Repeal ObamaCare." AND THEN WHAT?!?!

Cool logic. It's like saying since the Democrats offered up Jim Crow and the Repubs did nothing, the Dems were justified in returning slavery.

Nothing NEEDED to be done, and doing nothing isn't justification for doing something worse.

Something most certainly needed to be done. Health care costs were outpacing inflation, dumbass.

Your false analogy catastrophically fails because there were people who did plenty when the Deep South right wing extremists were offering up Jim Crow. They did not sit on their thumbs.

No need to resort to name calling. It only looks like you know you're losing the discussion.

Health care costs under Obamacare are skyrocketing. The cure is worse than the disease.

Not that it matters. ACA is going down the toilet where it belongs, anyway.

 

[g5000]

So show me where I said "comprehensive government solutions", RKM.

Face it. You hallucinated that.

 

[g5000]

No need to resort to name calling. It only looks like you know you're losing the discussion.

Health care costs under Obamacare are skyrocketing.

Define skyrocketing. "Skyrocketing" implies a rapid increase. So show us at what rate per capita costs were climbing in the decade before ObamaCare went into effect, and how much they are going up now.

Not that it matters. ACA is going down the toilet where it belongs, anyway.

ObamaCare is going to go away, I agree. It will be replaced by single payer. Don't be stupid enough to think I support that outcome. I don't. But that is what is going to happen.

 

[g5000]

Listen to this crazy liberal guy, G5000:

ObamaCare promised to lower the cost of health care. Remember all those charts in 2009 comparing per capita spending on health care by country, and how we had the highest? This was supposed to convince us that ObamaCare was the way to go.

You don't hear or see those charts any more. Per capita spending is not going down, and ObamaCare will never make it go down.

So that was all a Big Lie.

 

[Carib Gyal]

No need to resort to name calling. It only looks like you know you're losing the discussion.

Health care costs under Obamacare are skyrocketing.

Define skyrocketing. "Skyrocketing" implies a rapid increase. So show us at what rate per capita costs were climbing in the decade before ObamaCare went into effect, and how much they are going up now.

Not that it matters. ACA is going down the toilet where it belongs, anyway.

ObamaCare is going to go away, I agree. It will be replaced by single payer. Don't be stupid enough to think I support that outcome. I don't. But that is what is going to happen.

You mean health care costs aren't going up as fast as they were before the fix? lol. OK.

I'm not stupid enough to see how stupid you are. I guess name calling is now the game.

 

[g5000]

More crazy liberal talk from that socialist bastard G5000:

ObamaCare was advertised as legislation which would reduce the per capita cost of health care in America. That was the bait.

In this, it has utterly failed.

What ObamaCare actually achieves is the redistribution of those costs, largely from the unproductive members of our society onto the backs of the productive members of our society. That was the switch.

One third of the "involuntarily insured" in America are high school dropouts. These are the people whose costs are being redistributed to the more productive members of our society.

In one of the most Orwellian turns in the history of American political debate, the supporters of ObamaCare have attempted to portray those who will have to cough up their money in order to support the high school dropouts as "freeloaders".

The insurance mandate is critical to the survival of ObamaCare. The insurance mandate is the means by which productive people are forced to overpay in order to pay for the insurance of high school dropouts. This is the redistribution of cost under ObamaCare.

ObamaCare was a classic "bait-and-switch" con job.

 

[g5000]

No need to resort to name calling. It only looks like you know you're losing the discussion.

Health care costs under Obamacare are skyrocketing.

Define skyrocketing. "Skyrocketing" implies a rapid increase. So show us at what rate per capita costs were climbing in the decade before ObamaCare went into effect, and how much they are going up now.

Not that it matters. ACA is going down the toilet where it belongs, anyway.

ObamaCare is going to go away, I agree. It will be replaced by single payer. Don't be stupid enough to think I support that outcome. I don't. But that is what is going to happen.

You mean health care costs aren't going up as fast as they were before the fix? lol. OK.

Exactly. They are still rising, but not as rapidly as before ObamaCare. I've proven it on this forum before.

And I will prove it again just as soon as you prove your claim they have skyrocketed. You are just parroting some right wing hack media bullshit you chose to believe without checking the facts.

 

[g5000]

This healthcare debate between myself and the rubes is all the evidence you need that telling bigger lies than the other guy doesn't work. If you have to lie to win, it just proves your philosophy is utterly bankrupt, morally and intellectually.

We could have easily beaten ObamaCare with honesty and truth and intelligence. But the assholes running the right wing hack media and the Republican establishment are a bunch of jingoistic retards, and that is why ObamaCare succeeded.

I find it difficult to determine who I am more angry with. The rubes on the Right who have destroyed my party and the conservative movement, or the fucking asshole liberals who are succeeding because of them.

 

[g5000]

Manufacturing bullshit about Clinton sends a gigantic signal that the GOP is seriously broken. It is time to wake the fuck up to that fact and get to work fixing it.