20 Lies Harris Told last night at the debate

[Nostra]

Again, #2 was the only real lie.

 

[BackAgain]

Here are 20 of her claims that are lies:

1. Trump supports and adopts Project 2025 (False: Trump has nothing to do with project 2025)

2. Trump would sign a National abortion ban (False: He has given the issue to the states, and has never stated he desires a national ban)

3. There are "Trump abortion bans" in states. (False: There are none)

4. There are zero cases of women having or desiring late abortions, and" it's not happening". (False: It's rare, but the desire happens, and if made legal, would happen).

5. Trump wants to Monitor all pregnancies (False: no evidence)

6. Trump called Nazi's at Charlottesville "Very fine people" (False: he denounced them, and called peaceful protestors of both sides of statue issue as very fine people)

7. Trump supported the Proud boys by only saying Stand by (False: He said "Stand down and stand by", opposing their violence/rhetoric)

8. Trump incited and ordered the attack on the Capitol (False: He said peaceful and patriotic protest, and to respect police)

9. A Joint letter said that Trump's policies would cause a recession (False: the letter doesn't say there would be a recession)

10. Trump's use of "Bloodbath" is a violent desire (False: It's obviously not literal, it's a common economic term)

11. Trump left us with the worst unemployment since the great depression (False: it's not even near the worst)

12. J6 was the worst event in US History since the Civil War. (False: Pearl Harbor, 9/11, JFK assassination, many others are objectively worse)

13. Trump said he would terminate the constitution (False: He never said it or has expressed wanting to do so)

14. "I made it clear in 2020" she would not ban fracking (False: she said "Joe Biden will not ban fracking" in the 2020 VP debate, and she said she would ban fracking in her 2019 presidential bid)

15. Trump got handed $400 million on a silver platter (False: He inherited money, but exaggerated the amount)

16. She said she didn't support defund the police movement (False: She is on record supporting it)

17. She said Police died on January 6th (False: none did).

18. He wants to be a dictator on day one (False: She took a joke and is representing it to the public as a serious declaration)

19. Biden/Harris Created 800,000 new manufacturing jobs (False: most aren't new, just returning after Democrat shut-down policies during COVID)

20. Trump would impose a 20% sales tax (False: Trump would impose tariffs, ones he did during his previous administration and there were no increases in inflation/prices because of them)

She told lie after lie after lie… far more than Trump.

Excellent post.

 

[HikerGuy83]

This list is bullshit. None of these are lies.

Whats' BS is your response.

She lied about project 2025. Out and out lied.

You clowns don't get to make a big deal about Trump's hyperbole and not get the same.

She lied her ass off.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Okay… list them

You won't see ElmerMudd the moron anymore.

 

[HikerGuy83]

If you're not aware that Trump unleashed a flood of abortion bans or that his team wrote Project 2025 for him or that he was born rich or that he's said the things he's said, I don't know what help I can be to you.

You might, at least, find some reasonable talking points to keep repeating instead of making a fool of yourself.

 

[Lisa558]

Here are 20 of her claims that are lies:

1. Trump supports and adopts Project 2025 (False: Trump has nothing to do with project 2025)

2. Trump would sign a National abortion ban (False: He has given the issue to the states, and has never stated he desires a national ban)

3. There are "Trump abortion bans" in states. (False: There are none)

4. There are zero cases of women having or desiring late abortions, and" it's not happening". (False: It's rare, but the desire happens, and if made legal, would happen).

5. Trump wants to Monitor all pregnancies (False: no evidence)

6. Trump called Nazi's at Charlottesville "Very fine people" (False: he denounced them, and called peaceful protestors of both sides of statue issue as very fine people)

7. Trump supported the Proud boys by only saying Stand by (False: He said "Stand down and stand by", opposing their violence/rhetoric)

8. Trump incited and ordered the attack on the Capitol (False: He said peaceful and patriotic protest, and to respect police)

9. A Joint letter said that Trump's policies would cause a recession (False: the letter doesn't say there would be a recession)

10. Trump's use of "Bloodbath" is a violent desire (False: It's obviously not literal, it's a common economic term)

11. Trump left us with the worst unemployment since the great depression (False: it's not even near the worst)

12. J6 was the worst event in US History since the Civil War. (False: Pearl Harbor, 9/11, JFK assassination, many others are objectively worse)

13. Trump said he would terminate the constitution (False: He never said it or has expressed wanting to do so)

14. "I made it clear in 2020" she would not ban fracking (False: she said "Joe Biden will not ban fracking" in the 2020 VP debate, and she said she would ban fracking in her 2019 presidential bid)

15. Trump got handed $400 million on a silver platter (False: He inherited money, but exaggerated the amount)

16. She said she didn't support defund the police movement (False: She is on record supporting it)

17. She said Police died on January 6th (False: none did).

18. He wants to be a dictator on day one (False: She took a joke and is representing it to the public as a serious declaration)

19. Biden/Harris Created 800,000 new manufacturing jobs (False: most aren't new, just returning after Democrat shut-down policies during COVID)

20. Trump would impose a 20% sales tax (False: Trump would impose tariffs, ones he did during his previous administration and there were no increases in inflation/prices because of them)

She told lie after lie after lie… far more than Trump.

And the mods let her get away with every single one.

 

[flewism]

This list is bullshit. None of these are lies. Campaign and debate rhetoric, sure. The only thing she lied about straight up about was the unemployment rate Trump left when Biden and she took office.

And I don't see that on your list.

"Campaign and debate rhetoric" aka Lying is now the acceptable apparatus in American politics and media salesmanship.

That is how comical the American political landscape is. The American taxpayers are nothing but a commodity for sale to be abused and fucked over by Politicians, corporations and foreign entities. Your asses are for sale by snake oil salesman politicians to purchase by corporations and foreign entities.

Propaganda is alive and thriving in America.

 

[Captain Caveman]

This list is bullshit. None of these are lies. Campaign and debate rhetoric, sure. The only thing she lied about straight up about was the unemployment rate Trump left when Biden and she took office.

And I don't see that on your list.

ALL politicians lie, always have, always will. They lie on purpose, they lie to manipulate, they lie because they have the wrong information. You don't have to fight her corner, to stick up for her. If I lived in the US, I would vote for Trump and I know he's the chief manipulator liar. If you don't vote for someone because they told lies, you wouldn't be able to vote for anyone.

All these, "Trump/Biden/Harris just lied", threads are just to wind folk up.

Look at us, the UK, elected the biggest useless fucking liar on the planet. Not sure why folk watch the debates, folk know who they're gonna vote for.

 

[Slade3200]

Harris claimed Trump intends to enact what in effect is a “sales tax” which she said economists estimate would raise prices on typical American families by almost $4,000 a year. That’s a high-end estimate from a liberal think tank about Trump’s plan for “universal baseline tariffs” on imports

Ok… your first point… not a lie. She was quoting the estimate from a think tank.

 

[irosie91]

Ok… your first point… not a lie. She was quoting the estimate from a think tank.

HUH? very convoluted----a liberal think tank decided that if Trump imposes
tariffs---then prices on household goods would go up $ 4000 per household ---
????? and she decided to call that a "SALES TAX" (in effect) As I recall
(just by frustrated memory) ---she termed the THEORETICAL SITUATION
a "SALES TAX"---definitively----as if "sales tax" concretely applied via crystal
ball.

 

[jbander]

HUH? very convoluted----a liberal think tank decided that if Trump imposes
tariffs---then prices on household goods would go up $ 4000 per household ---
????? and she decided to call that a "SALES TAX" (in effect) As I recall
(just by frustrated memory) ---she termed the THEORETICAL SITUATION
a "SALES TAX"---definitively----as if "sales tax" concretely applied via crystal
ball.

It will do the exact same thing as a sales tax if you put a one dollar tariff on a product it will cost the consumer one more dollar. Trump ,the piece of shit ,said the the country/company that you tariff will pay for it and not the purchaser. Now that is one hell of a bigger lie then calling it a sales tax. Tariffs and sales tax is a way to tax the poor and middle class . It's the hate party doing exactly the only thing they exist for , free ride for the ungodly wealthy. Transfer all the new wealth of this country into the hands of the people who need it and deserve it the least. Fuck them. They demand it all and pay their right wing politician to make law so it all goes to the golden few at the top , then fuck them.

 

[irosie91]

It will do the exact same thing as a sales tax if you put a one dollar tariff on a product it will cost the consumer one more dollar. Trump ,the piece of shit ,said the the country/company that you tariff will pay for it and not the purchaser. Now that is one hell of a bigger lie then calling it a sales tax. Tariffs and sales tax is a way to tax the poor and middle class . It's the hate party doing exactly the only thing they exist for , free ride for the ungodly wealthy. Transfer all the new wealth of this country into the hands of the people who need it and deserve it the least. Fuck them. They demand it all and pay their right wing politician to make law so it all goes to the golden few at the top , then fuck them.

I think you are overstating the effect DOWN THE LINE---of Tariffs The purpose of tariffs are to REMOVE a trade advantage to a competing country

 

[jbander]

I think you are overstating the effect DOWN THE LINE---of Tariffs The purpose of tariffs are to REMOVE a trade advantage to a competing country

I don't care what it is used for , a one dollar tariff on a given product will increase the charge of that product by one dollar. and when it is a product that is mostly consumed by the poor and middle class , then it becomes a tax on the poor and middle class. It a lot simpler then that,forget the tarriff and increase the tax on the people who need it the least and deserve it the least , the wealthy. It is exactly like a national sales tax , it is so the poor and middle class pays for it. The wealthy have gotten fat of their free ride for the last 45 years . now for the next 45 years we will turn that around and move the wealth in the hands of the poor and middle class. And instead of the poor and middle class watching from the side as the ungodly wealthy get that much more ungodly wealthy. Instead for the next 45 years we will watch the rich sit and watch while the workers and the needy get their turn at the bucks. Screw them. They don't earn it deserve it of need it.

 

[irosie91]

I don't care what it is used for , a one dollar tariff on a given product will increase the charge of that product by one dollar. and when it is a product that is mostly consumed by the poor and middle class , then it becomes a tax on the poor and middle class. It a lot simpler then that,forget the tarriff and increase the tax on the people who need it the least and deserve it the least , the wealthy. It is exactly like a national sales tax , it is so the poor and middle class pays for it. The wealthy have gotten fat of their free ride for the last 45 years . now for the next 45 years we will turn that around and move the wealth in the hands of the poor and middle class. And instead of the poor and middle class watching from the side as the ungodly wealthy get that much more ungodly wealthy. Instead for the next 45 years we will watch the rich sit and watch while the workers and the needy get their turn at the bucks. Screw them. They don't earn it deserve it of need it.

Depends upon just WHAT items the tariff is placed. If there is a high demand for
CAVIAR in the USA----(because of the special food needs of the wealthy) and a tariff is placed on CAVIAR almost all of which is an imported item-----it don't affect poor little beans eating me

 

[Catsnmeters]

Independents tracked right with republicans last night on every issue... that's interesting....

I bet that was a real comprehensive non-partisan poll with tens of thousands of participants too.

 

[Shareprofit]

Here are 20 of her claims that are lies:

1. Trump supports and adopts Project 2025 (False: Trump has nothing to do with project 2025)

2. Trump would sign a National abortion ban (False: He has given the issue to the states, and has never stated he desires a national ban)

3. There are "Trump abortion bans" in states. (False: There are none)

4. There are zero cases of women having or desiring late abortions, and" it's not happening". (False: It's rare, but the desire happens, and if made legal, would happen).

5. Trump wants to Monitor all pregnancies (False: no evidence)

6. Trump called Nazi's at Charlottesville "Very fine people" (False: he denounced them, and called peaceful protestors of both sides of statue issue as very fine people)

7. Trump supported the Proud boys by only saying Stand by (False: He said "Stand down and stand by", opposing their violence/rhetoric)

8. Trump incited and ordered the attack on the Capitol (False: He said peaceful and patriotic protest, and to respect police)

9. A Joint letter said that Trump's policies would cause a recession (False: the letter doesn't say there would be a recession)

10. Trump's use of "Bloodbath" is a violent desire (False: It's obviously not literal, it's a common economic term)

11. Trump left us with the worst unemployment since the great depression (False: it's not even near the worst)

12. J6 was the worst event in US History since the Civil War. (False: Pearl Harbor, 9/11, JFK assassination, many others are objectively worse)

13. Trump said he would terminate the constitution (False: He never said it or has expressed wanting to do so)

14. "I made it clear in 2020" she would not ban fracking (False: she said "Joe Biden will not ban fracking" in the 2020 VP debate, and she said she would ban fracking in her 2019 presidential bid)

15. Trump got handed $400 million on a silver platter (False: He inherited money, but exaggerated the amount)

16. She said she didn't support defund the police movement (False: She is on record supporting it)

17. She said Police died on January 6th (False: none did).

18. He wants to be a dictator on day one (False: She took a joke and is representing it to the public as a serious declaration)

19. Biden/Harris Created 800,000 new manufacturing jobs (False: most aren't new, just returning after Democrat shut-down policies during COVID)

20. Trump would impose a 20% sales tax (False: Trump would impose tariffs, ones he did during his previous administration and there were no increases in inflation/prices because of them)

She told lie after lie after lie… far more than Trump.

This list is all true, we don't need Harris what Trump says we've all see him say this on videos

 

[ShahdagMountains]

And the mods let her get away with every single one.

 

[toobfreak]

Ok… your first point… not a lie. She was quoting the estimate from a think tank.

Like a cop telling the judge you were clocked speeding on the 55 mph highway, when in fact, as far as his radar gun could tell, you were actually driving somewhere between 56 mph and 89.

 

[ShahdagMountains]

 

[GLASNOST]

But...but, how is it that David Muir missed fact-checking any of those lies???

I'm sure it was an innocently intentional.