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Other Catholics throughout history have had the Stigmata (St Francis is one) but Padre Pio was the first priest
 
People don't like this thread because it makes Catholicism look.. I dunno... Christian
 
People don't like this thread because it makes Catholicism look.. I dunno... Christian

My objection to Catholic theology is that teach that followers of Christ go to Hell unless their active members of the Catholic Church. Of course, none of that is in the Bible.
 
My objection to Catholic theology is that teach that followers of Christ go to Hell unless their active members of the Catholic Church. Of course, none of that is in the Bible.
foghornleghorn isn't in the Bible either, so you don't exist, therefore I don't have to comment on what a non-existent person appears to be saying

All sarcasm aside

All of God cannot be crammed into a book (the Bible), not to mention that neither can 2000+ years of Church history.

Jesus said He would BUILD his Church and the gates of Hell would not prevail against His Church. Matthew 16:18

From this we know that his Church will not only prevail against all heresies (which come from the devil, added to human nature which as we all know accepts as true whatever it wants to be true...), but also we know from this statement from Jesus (Mt 1618) that the Church on Earth will "evolve"... aka be BUILT. In other words, Jesus did not deliver the Church to us in its absolutely complete and perfect form. He knew humans better than anyone and knew it would take TIME for his human servants (clergy/popes/saints...) to develop certain (sometimes seemingly incomprehensible) doctrines like the Trinity and Transubstantiation.

Building anything is often a slow process.. Understanding God (while we are still so human/fallen/sinful) is a MUCH slower process... obviously
 
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A thousand years of enjoying human glory is not worth even an hour spent sweetly communing with Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament. -Padre Pio
 

Other Catholics throughout history have had the Stigmata (St Francis is one) but Padre Pio was the first priest

There used to be a tractor trailer that drove through my neighborhood that had Pio painted as a mural on the side.
 
A lot of people are of the opinion that Pio was faking it, and used acid to create his own stigmata.
 
There used to be a tractor trailer that drove through my neighborhood that had Pio painted as a mural on the side.
I have an issue with that comment by CS Lewis because many, many people accuse the ancient (not the novus ordo) Catholic Church of being the kind of tyrant he seems to be talking about.

I only wish to God that when I was young, someone had cared enough about me to be a so called "busy body" about my eternal salvation. I did end up finding the Narrow Way Jesus spoke of (the rosary, True Catholicism....) but it was No thanks to anyone but God Himself... or maybe I should say that it was 99% God and 1% yours truly. Jesus said Seek and you will find and I somehow managed to do that..
 
No, we dont teach that
NOT true.

The popes for the first 19 centuries+ taught exactly that. . that there is no salvation outside the Church Christ founded, the Catholic Church. So for nearly 20 centuries we had this doctrine: extra ecclessiam nulla salus

Then the takeover happened 1958
and we've been ruled by liberals and phonies ever since.

No one who teaches like Francis did (for example) is a Catholic. He accepted people living in homosexual relationships... condoned divorce and remarriage and etc...
 
No, we dont teach that

Of course it does.

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Of course it does.
Yes, and why wouldn't the Church Christ himself founded say that outside of it there is no salvation?

That statement (doctrine) alone tells the entire world that the CC is the True Church, if nothing else. All the other "churches" so called seem scared to proclaim anything of the sort... probably because they know people can read up on HISTORY --and they don't want to be outed as liars...
 
Yes, and why wouldn't the Church Christ himself founded say that outside of it there is no salvation?

Christ founded his own church, not the Catholic Church.

Share verses from the Bible wherein Jesus and/or the apostles said that belonging to a man-made church was necessary for salvation. They don't exist.

Jesus provided mankind with salvation from forever death. We only need to believe in Jesus, love God and one another, and obey his commandments. That's it.

Teaching that one must belong to the Catholic Church to achieve salvation is a heresy straight from Hell.
 
That statement (doctrine) alone tells the entire world that the CC is the True Church
Jesus calls the other churches Paul started by name in Revelation. The CC doesn't even get mentioned. Peter started Christ's Church in Jerusalem. If you are correct forked, then surely Christ will touch down in Rome and take up residence in the Vatican. Isn't that what the Bible says? :uhoh3:
 
People don't like this thread because it makes Catholicism look.. I dunno... Christian
Loony is loony, the particular variety hardly matters.

And the desert religions are as loony as they come.

I wager it's all that desert.
 
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Christ founded his own church, not the Catholic Church.

Share verses from the Bible wherein Jesus and/or the apostles said that belonging to a man-made church was necessary for salvation. They don't exist.

Jesus provided mankind with salvation from forever death. We only need to believe in Jesus, love God and one another, and obey his commandments. That's it.

Teaching that one must belong to the Catholic Church to achieve salvation is a heresy straight from Hell.
You don't know history. Jesus founded the Catholic Church which can be traced to the FIRST century, unlike Luther, "Father of Protestantism" who came along in the 16th

Study history and then maybe we can have an intelligent conversation. You could start with Searching: Church Fathers/Catholicism

Transubstantiation is a good topic, although it wasn't always called that, so maybe another topic.. Confession to a priest. Yep, the Church Fathers who knew the Apostles wrote about that not long after Jesus ascended..
 
Jesus founded the Catholic Church which can be traced to the FIRST century
Nope. Nowhere in the Bible did Jesus or the apostles refer to their church as "universal" or "Catholic". In fact, the apostles called their movement "The Way" after Jesus's statement that he is "the way". Additionally, nowhere in the Bible was Peter recognized as being the head of Jesus's church. As well, Paul publicly rebuked Peter on one occasion, something he unlikely would have done if Peter had been the recognized head of Jesus's church.

I will add that Paul wrote that anybody who teaches a different gospel (catechism) is cursed.

Your loyalty to the Catholic Church is misplaced. Your love, loyalty, and devotion must be to serving God and following his son, Jesus. I was a Catholic for 50 years. I can show you more evidence that the Catholic Church is NOT from God but, rather, the world. I'm happy to discuss this privately, if you're interested.
 
Nope. Nowhere in the Bible did Jesus or the apostles refer to their church as "universal" or "Catholic".
I never said otherwise.

But the word "Catholic" was given to the Church LONG LONG before there were any so called Protestant "churches."

The earliest writings extant in which it was called Catholic date to the year 107 AD

Again, the "father of Protestantism" Luther came along in the 16th century... Jesus began His Church LONG before the 16th century!

I wish people would study history. I'm frankly getting tired of repeating this information... Why should I do your homework for you? And yet you people who have done virtually NO research act like you know everything about the CC... tiresome...

watch about 10 videos at Most Holy Family Monastery website. That is where you will find the truth about what happened to the CC after Vatican II...
 
I never said otherwise.

But the word "Catholic" was given to the Church LONG LONG before there were any so called Protestant "churches."

The earliest writings extant in which it was called Catholic date to the year 107 AD

Again, the "father of Protestantism" Luther came along in the 16th century... Jesus began His Church LONG before the 16th century!

I wish people would study history. I'm frankly getting tired of repeating this information... Why should I do your homework for you? And yet you people who have done virtually NO research act like you know everything about the CC... tiresome...

watch about 10 videos at Most Holy Family Monastery website. That is where you will find the truth about what happened to the CC after Vatican II...
And that early church would be completely unrecognizable to a modern-day Catholic, as would today's Catholic Church would appear to one of the Apostles. They would, for instance, stand aghast at the statues created venerating them. They were, after all, practicing Jews who would have followed God's command to not create any graven image or to bow down before it, especially of themselves. The sound of worshippers beseeching them in prayer to take action would greatly offend them.
 

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