182 states back Palestine right to self-determination

[Samson]

The Canaanites were still there. Remember, Jesus talked to one.

Good Point: Jesus also spoke with Satan. Was he a Palestinian?

I think he was an illegal alien.

Well, the only way we can tell is to compare Satan's behaviour with the behaviour of the average Palestinian.

Is Satan a refugee that is demanding the return of his place.........?

OOps..

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Canaanites were still there. Remember, Jesus talked to one.

Jesus King of Israel [not the fake Palestine invented by the British after World War I]

John 1:49 Then Nathanael declared, "Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the King of Israel."

Nathanael never had to draw a map of any "Kingdom."

Clearly he was referring to a spritual kingdom, not an earthly one.

Israel is a nation of people. They are still Israelites no matter where they live.

 

[P F Tinmore]

Good Point: Jesus also spoke with Satan. Was he a Palestinian?

I think he was an illegal alien.

Well, the only way we can tell is to compare Satan's behaviour with the behaviour of the average Palestinian.

Is Satan a refugee that is demanding the return of his place.........?

OOps..

He does not seem to have roots in any particular place.

 

[Samson]

Jesus King of Israel [not the fake Palestine invented by the British after World War I]

John 1:49 Then Nathanael declared, "Rabbi, you are the Son of God; you are the King of Israel."

Nathanael never had to draw a map of any "Kingdom."

Clearly he was referring to a spritual kingdom, not an earthly one.

Israel is a nation of people. They are still Israelites no matter where they live.

OK. NOW

But that has nothing to do with the absurd notion that Jesus was the leader of a nation with boundies called "Israel."

 

[Samson]

I think he was an illegal alien.

Well, the only way we can tell is to compare Satan's behaviour with the behaviour of the average Palestinian.

Is Satan a refugee that is demanding the return of his place.........?

OOps..

He does not seem to have roots in any particular place.

Where else did Jesus speak to Satan?

It seems clear to me that Satan must be a Palestinian, or at least a Cannanite.

 

[Mr. President]

All they voted yes on was that Palestine had a right to create their own state they never said where

 

[Mr. President]

Coincidently voting yes that they had a right to form a state also means that they deny that it currently exists as a state.

 

[Samson]

All they voted yes on was that Palestine had a right to create their own state they never said where

Typical UN bullshit.

 

[JStone]

Eminent Historian Bernard Lewis

The adjective Palestinian is comparatively new. This, I need hardly remind you, is a region of ancient civilization and of deep-rooted and often complex identitites. But, Palestine was not one of them. People might identify themselves for various purposes, by religion, by descent, or by allegiance to a particular state or ruler, or, sometimes, locality. But, when they did it locally it was generally either the city and the immediate district or the larger province, so they would have been Jerusalemites or Jaffaites or Syrians, identifying with the larger province of Syria

The constitution or the formation of a political entity called Palestine which eventually gave rise to a nationality called Palestinian were lasting innovations of the British Mandate [1922-1948]

It is by now commonplace that the civilizations of the Middle East are oldest known to human history. They go back thousands of years, much older than the civilizations of India and China, not to speak of other upstart places. It is also interesting, though now often forgotten, that the ancient civilizations of the Middle East were almost totally obliterated and forgotten by their own people as well as by others. Their monuments were defaced or destroyed, their languages forgotten, their scripts forgotten, their history forgotten and even their identities forgotten.

All that was known about them came from one single source, and that is Israel, the only component of the ancient Middle East to have retained their identity, their memory, their language and their books. For a very long time, up to comparatively modern times, with rare exceptions all that was known about the ancient Middle East--the Babylonians, the Egyptians and the rest--was what the Jewish tradiiton has preserved.

American Library Association

"For more than four decades, Bernard Lewis has been one of the most respected scholars and prolific writers on the history and politics of the Middle East. In this compilation of more than 50 journal articles and essays, he displays the full range of his eloquence, knowledge, and insight regarding this pivotal and volatile region."
Oxford University Press: Faith and Power: Bernard Lewis

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xrnw-yIc9w]The True History of Palestine - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Jos]

Israel is a nation of people. They are still Israelites no matter where they live.

Jewish Autonomous Oblast - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[JStone]

Israel is a nation of people. They are still Israelites no matter where they live.

Rabbi Jesus Christ, who was born a Jew, lived as a Jew and died a Jew, was one of the most blessed Israelites.

John 12:13 They took palm branches and went out to meet him, shouting, “Hosanna! “Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord! “Blessed is the king of Israel!”

 

[Jos]

The Soviets envisaged setting up a new "Soviet Zion", where a proletarian Jewish culture could be developed. Yiddish, rather than Hebrew, would be the national language, and a new socialist literature and arts would replace religion as the primary expression of culture.

Stalin's theory on the National Question regarded a group as a nation only if it had a territory, and since there was no Jewish territory, per se, the Jews were not a nation and did not have national rights. Jewish Communists argued that the way to solve this ideological dilemma was by creating a Jewish territory, hence the ideological motivation for the Jewish Autonomous Oblast. Politically, it was also considered desirable to create a Soviet Jewish homeland as an ideological alternative to Zionism and the theory put forward by Socialist Zionists such as Ber Borochov that the Jewish Question could be resolved by creating a Jewish territory in Palestine. Thus Birobidzhan was important for propaganda purposes as an argument against Zionism which was a rival ideology to Marxism among left-wing Jews.
Jewish Autonomous Oblast - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[P F Tinmore]

All they voted yes on was that Palestine had a right to create their own state they never said where

They do not have to say where. Palestine has had defined borders since 1922.

 

[JStone]

Fakestinians

Former PLO Leader Zuheir Mohsen

The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct Palestinian people to oppose Zionism.
Zuheir Mohsen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Shaykh Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi, Italian Muslim Assembly

I believe that "Palestinian identity" is something completely artificial: it was forged as a propagandistic tool against Israel. The strange fact is that, at least here in Europe, I have never heard an Arab from the Land of Israel ("Palestine") say: "I am Palestinian."

Please remember that the so-called hero of "Palestinian independence," the pro-Nazi Grand Mufti of British Mandate Palestine, Haj Amin al-Husseini, never claimed that "Palestinians" are to be an independent people: all of his official declarations state that "Palestine must be recognized as a integral part of Syria."
ISRAEL SHOULD DECLARE OSLO NULL AND VOID (Prof. Abdul Hadi Palazzi August, 1998

Guy Milliere, Eminent Professor of History and Political Science, University of Paris

No one had heard of a Palestinian people before the mid-1960s. They did not exist. Israel under the British Mandate until Israel' s Independence in 1948 was called Palestine. All Jews who were born there until i948 had the word « Palestine » stamped on their passports. The current Palestinians are those Arabs who, for a variety of reasons, decided to leave the land during the 1947 War of Independence, when five countries--Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon and Iraq--attacked the 600,000 people in the fledgling state of Israel the day after its birth, hoping to kill it in the crib.
The War Against Israel Goes On- by Guy Millière | dreuz.info

Fakestinian History

Historian Sir Martin Gilbert, Author of 10 Books on Jewish and Middle East History

On August 18 Yasir Arafat, speaking as head of the Palestinian National Authority in Gaza and Jericho, told Arab youngsters at a summer camp, "Those of you who lit the intifada fire must now act as defenders of this young state, whose capital is Jerusalem. It is Bir Salem [the fountain of Salem]. Salem was one of the Canaanite Kings, one of our forefathers. This city is the capital of our children and our children's children. If not for this belief and conviction of the Palestinian nation, this people would have been erased from the face of the earth, as were so many other nations."

King Salem is a newcomer on the historical scene. No such Canaanite, Jebusite or Philistine king is known to history

Fakestinian Messiahs. Did you know Jesus Christ, the Jewish rabbi who taught from the Torah and observed Passover in the Jerusalem Temple, was REALLY a muslime fakestinian?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWLyVU0Otlk]Arafat said Jesus was a Palestinian. Palestinian author and TV host agree. - YouTube[/ame]

We’re talking about an ongoing chain [of prophets of the Islam], from Adam to Muhammad. It’s an ongoing chain, representing the call for monotheism, and the mission of Islam… The prophets were all of the same religion [Islam]… Jesus was born in this land. He lived in this land. It is known that he was born in Bethlehem… He also lived in Nazereth, moved to Jerusalem. So he was a Palestinian par excellence…We respect Jesus, we believe in him [as a Muslim prophet], just as we believe in the prophet Muhammad."

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQC0zeQFgJc]Jesus misrepresented as "Palestinian" by Mufti of the Palestinian Authority - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Coincidently voting yes that they had a right to form a state also means that they deny that it currently exists as a state.

There was no mention of forming or creating a state.

 

[JStone]

Biblical Historian and Scholar Dr. Paula Fredriksen, Ph.D, History of Religion, Princeton University, Diploma in Theology, Oxford University

The Judean revolt against Rome was led by [Jewish messiah] Bar Kochba in 132-135 CE. The immediate causes of this rebellion are obscure. Its result was not: [Roman Emperor] Hadrian crushed the revolt and banned Jews from Judea.

The Romans now designated this territory by a political neologism, "Palestine" [a Latin form of "Philistine"], in a deliberate effort to denationalize Jewish/Judean territory. And, finally, Hadrian eradicated Jewish Jerusalem, erecting upon its ruins a new pagan city, Aelia Capitolina.
http://www.randomhouse.com/acmart/catalog/display.pperl?isbn=9780385502702&view=print

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xrnw-yIc9w]The True History of Palestine - YouTube[/ame]

 

[P F Tinmore]

Coincidently voting yes that they had a right to form a state also means that they deny that it currently exists as a state.

There was no mention of forming or creating a state.

A dispute regarding the status of the territories was settled by an Arbitrator appointed by the Council of the League of Nations. It was decided that Palestine and Transjordan were newly created states according to the terms of the applicable post-war treaties.

State of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[JStone]

State of Palestine: Italian Invention

Biblical Historian and Scholar Dr. Paula Fredriksen, Ph.D, History of Religion, Princeton University, Diploma in Theology, Oxford University

The Judean revolt against Rome was led by [Jewish messiah] Bar Kochba in 132-135 CE. The immediate causes of this rebellion are obscure. Its result was not: [Roman Emperor] Hadrian crushed the revolt and banned Jews from Judea.

The Romans now designated this territory by a political neologism, "Palestine" [a Latin form of "Philistine"], in a deliberate effort to denationalize Jewish/Judean territory. And, finally, Hadrian eradicated Jewish Jerusalem, erecting upon its ruins a new pagan city, Aelia Capitolina.
Random House, Inc. Academic Resources | Augustine and the Jews by Paula Fredriksen

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xrnw-yIc9w]The True History of Palestine - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Jos]

You lie like a jew

 

[JStone]

You lie like a jew

Monkey, not nice to insult the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ King of the Jews. Enjoy blowing hitler in hell, monkey

Matthew 2 After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem and asked, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.”



[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M1c7itPy3Y]Applause - YouTube[/ame]