17 senators sign public option push, 2 more express support

[Cal]

17 senators sign public option push, 2 more express support | Raw Story

UPDATE III: Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) has become the first member of the Democratic leadership to sign the public option letter, indicating its growing momentum.

In an email to supporters, reproduced by The Plum Line's Greg Sargent, Schumer said victory on the provision is "far from a done deal, but it’s an opportunity to break through the obstructionism Republicans have pushed for the past year."

UPDATE II: Sixteen senators have now signed the letter. The latest additions are Sens. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Barbara Mikulski (D-MD).

UPDATE: By Thursday morning there were 13 senators officially calling for a reconciliation vote on the public option, and two additional Democrats that have expressed support for the idea.

The new signatories are Sens. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), Barbara Boxer (D-CA) and Jack Reed (D-RI). Sens. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) and Ben Cardin (D-MD) have also indicated their support
Feinstein became the 11th senator to officially sign the letter on Wednesday night. In explaining her decision, Feinstein pointed to the insurer Blue Cross's projected 39 percent rate hike for Californians.

Are Dems finally acting like a Majority? I hope this is just the beginning of the push for finally passing REAL Healthcare Reform.

Thoughts?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Great News!!!

Go for ObamaCare!!!

Then Cap & Trade and Unilateral disarmament!

 

[CrusaderFrank]

And don't turn back into a bunch of lying fucking pussies either and talk about "Fiscal discipline"

Run proudly on the most spending and biggest deficits in human history

 

[Some Guy]

It's funny how proponents of the public option say we need it "to keep private health insurance companies honest" like they're one big cartel. If they are indeed colluding to artificially inflate health care costs then certainly they could be prosecuted for it, as it's against the law.

My evaluation: the push for a public option has absolutely nothing to do with "competition."

Edit to add: i don't see how this changes anything. The senators that will sign this thing showing their support for a public option supported it before this as well. Does anyone think that because they're "formally" declaring their desire for one that it's going to swing other democrats or a single republican in favor of it?

 

[MIPS]

LOL, All democratic senatorial grandstanding for their base aside, last time I checked 17+2 doesn't equal 51 nor does it equal 60, all it adds up to are a handful of senators that are foolish enough to express support for parliamentary shenanigans that they apparently think the American People won't notice.

If they thought last summer was bad, wait until they see what happens if they try to actually pull off this little reconciliation scheme they've cooked up.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Better hadn't be ANY republicans signing that document.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

17 senators sign public option push, 2 more express support | Raw Story

UPDATE III: Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) has become the first member of the Democratic leadership to sign the public option letter, indicating its growing momentum.

In an email to supporters, reproduced by The Plum Line's Greg Sargent, Schumer said victory on the provision is "far from a done deal, but it’s an opportunity to break through the obstructionism Republicans have pushed for the past year."
... snip ...

Are Dems finally acting like a Majority? I hope this is just the beginning of the push for finally passing REAL Healthcare Reform.

Thoughts?

You really don't want CrusaderFrank cheering this on. You really don't!

 

[Oscar Wao]

The usual crowd, turning privileges into rights...no big deal.

 

[MIPS]

Better hadn't be ANY republicans signing that document.

And we will strike down upon them with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy our nation. And they will know WE ARE THE PEOPLE when we lay our vengeance upon them.

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[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Public Option is back...so we ARE trying to socialize our medicine after all.

What forum member told you guys not to go to sleep on this?



http://www.usmessageboard.com/healt...ealthcare/103937-dont-fall-asleep-people.html

 

[Darkwind]

17 senators sign public option push, 2 more express support | Raw Story

UPDATE III: Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) has become the first member of the Democratic leadership to sign the public option letter, indicating its growing momentum.

In an email to supporters, reproduced by The Plum Line's Greg Sargent, Schumer said victory on the provision is "far from a done deal, but it’s an opportunity to break through the obstructionism Republicans have pushed for the past year."
... snip ...

Are Dems finally acting like a Majority? I hope this is just the beginning of the push for finally passing REAL Healthcare Reform.

Thoughts?

You really don't want CrusaderFrank cheering this on. You really don't!

 

[Xenophon]

Barrycare is dead, and Chucky knows it.

 

[PLYMCO_PILGRIM]

Barrycare is dead, and Chucky knows it.

At least with 59 senators they will be forced to debate it now...oh wait thats right the nuclear option means they only need 50....nevermind that constitution thingy, it just gets in the way.

 

[Annie]

Barrycare is dead, and Chucky knows it.

At least with 59 senators they will be forced to debate it now...oh wait thats right the nuclear option means they only need 50....nevermind that constitution thingy, it just gets in the way.

It will be interesting to see if the conservatives actually get ahead of this play. I'm not holding my breath, but the opening is there to show case their ideas-not at Obama's little push-pull meeting, but before, starting now.

 

[MIPS]

Barrycare is dead, and Chucky knows it.

At least with 59 senators they will be forced to debate it now...oh wait thats right the nuclear option means they only need 50....nevermind that constitution thingy, it just gets in the way.

It will be interesting to see if the conservatives actually get ahead of this play. I'm not holding my breath, but the opening is there to show case their ideas-not at Obama's little push-pull meeting, but before, starting now.

Yeah I suspect Congressional Republicans might just mention what the Democrats are up to with their parliamentary tricks on 2/25.

 

[Zona]

17 senators sign public option push, 2 more express support | Raw Story

UPDATE III: Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) has become the first member of the Democratic leadership to sign the public option letter, indicating its growing momentum.

In an email to supporters, reproduced by The Plum Line's Greg Sargent, Schumer said victory on the provision is "far from a done deal, but it’s an opportunity to break through the obstructionism Republicans have pushed for the past year."

UPDATE II: Sixteen senators have now signed the letter. The latest additions are Sens. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Barbara Mikulski (D-MD).

UPDATE: By Thursday morning there were 13 senators officially calling for a reconciliation vote on the public option, and two additional Democrats that have expressed support for the idea.

The new signatories are Sens. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), Barbara Boxer (D-CA) and Jack Reed (D-RI). Sens. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) and Ben Cardin (D-MD) have also indicated their support
Feinstein became the 11th senator to officially sign the letter on Wednesday night. In explaining her decision, Feinstein pointed to the insurer Blue Cross's projected 39 percent rate hike for Californians.

Are Dems finally acting like a Majority? I hope this is just the beginning of the push for finally passing REAL Healthcare Reform.

Thoughts?

Hopefully Obama will spring a huge "sruprise" on the 25th. How great would that be? Finally, showing some balls on this.

 

[Zona]

Barrycare is dead, and Chucky knows it.

At least with 59 senators they will be forced to debate it now...oh wait thats right the nuclear option means they only need 50....nevermind that constitution thingy, it just gets in the way.

How exactly did Bush get that tax cut for the rich signed?

 

[MIPS]

17 senators sign public option push, 2 more express support | Raw Story

UPDATE III: Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) has become the first member of the Democratic leadership to sign the public option letter, indicating its growing momentum.

In an email to supporters, reproduced by The Plum Line's Greg Sargent, Schumer said victory on the provision is "far from a done deal, but it’s an opportunity to break through the obstructionism Republicans have pushed for the past year."

UPDATE II: Sixteen senators have now signed the letter. The latest additions are Sens. Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ), Patrick Leahy (D-VT) and Barbara Mikulski (D-MD).

UPDATE: By Thursday morning there were 13 senators officially calling for a reconciliation vote on the public option, and two additional Democrats that have expressed support for the idea.

The new signatories are Sens. Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), Barbara Boxer (D-CA) and Jack Reed (D-RI). Sens. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) and Ben Cardin (D-MD) have also indicated their support
Feinstein became the 11th senator to officially sign the letter on Wednesday night. In explaining her decision, Feinstein pointed to the insurer Blue Cross's projected 39 percent rate hike for Californians.

Are Dems finally acting like a Majority? I hope this is just the beginning of the push for finally passing REAL Healthcare Reform.

Thoughts?

Hopefully Obama will spring a huge "sruprise" on the 25th. How great would that be? Finally, showing some balls on this.

How exactly is something that everybody already knows about a huge 'sruprise'? The only surprise coming on this one will be to congressional democrats if they actually try to pull off this unconscionable scheme and trust me it won't be a pleasant one.

 

[KissMy]

If you want to fix health care it would help if you knew what is causing the problems

Antitrust exemption for the insurance industry was established in the 1945 McCarran-Ferguson Act. The insurance industry has a special statutory exemption from the antitrust laws. Insurers should be subject to the same antitrust laws as everyone else.” Congress needs to pass S.1681 - Health Insurance Industry Antitrust Enforcement Act of 2009 This Act repeals the insurance industry exemption for the most egregious forms of antitrust violations - price fixing, bid rigging, and market allocations. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMN2AXyBsp0&feature=related"]Repeal Antitrust Exemption[/ame]

Want to know why there are too few general practitioners & soaring medical cost?

They told me I was too smart to go into primary care "Everyone told me it was the wrong thing to do," recalls Dr. Jennifer Weyler, explaining her decision two years ago as a medical student to become a family doctor. "My teachers discouraged me; administrators discouraged me. They told me I was too smart to go into primary care or that the job wouldn't be enough of a challenge." And sure enough, Weyler, now a resident in family medicine at the University of Massachusetts, is frustrated - but not by her job, which she loves. "It frustrates me," she explains, "to have to continually explain to people what a primary care practitioner is."

It was only 50 years ago, after all, that no one had to be told what a family doctor was, mainly because that's about all there was. Eighty-seven percent of all doctors in the thirties were general practitioner - namely internists, pediatricians, and family doctors. Today that figure has dropped to 30 percent.

A New England Medical Center's Health Institute study in 1992 found that specialists order more tests, perform more procedures, and hospitalize patients more often than primary care doctors treating similar symptoms. Family practitioners are less likely to hospitalize patients than specialists treating patients who had similar levels of illness, according to a recent Journal of the American Medical Association report. A 1990 study estimated that a 50-50 mix of primary care doctors to specialists would produce a 39 percent reduction in total expenditures for physician services. "Primary care protects people from unwanted procedures," explains Fitzhugh Mullan, an assistant U.S. surgeon general "General practitioners look at risks and benefits, both in terms of care and costs."

The American Medical Association is a trade union that limits the number of people who can enter medical school. Control over admission to medical school and later licensure enables the profession to limit entry in two ways. The obvious one is simply by turning down many applicants. The less obvious, but probably far more important one, is by establishing standards for admission and licensure that make entry so difficult as to discourage young people from ever trying to get admission.

Like the AMA, SEIU is largely a medical trade union who wrote Obamacare H.R.3200. Obama is the SEIU union boss negotiating their pay contract with the US citizens. These unions will pay lower premiums & get more benefits than the average citizen under Obamacare. "SEIU's Agenda is My Agenda!!!" said Obama "Together we had fought to raise wages for home care workers in Illinois." SEIU Employees are getting a Big Raise with Obamacare. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ1NJaCtIkM"]Obama - SEIU's Agenda is My Agenda[/ame] [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5alq_p7RaA&feature=related"]Takeover & Deception[/ame]

Do you really want more rationing & higher medical cost? Adding a 2,000 page bureaucracy congress did not read forcing everyone into that system will make prices even higher & care worse for us that pay for it. Unlike the H.R.3200 health care bill passed by the house that does away with private health care & forces me to pay more for less, there is no public option, only mandated government healthcare! Start reading at page 16 of H.R.3200

10 (1) LIMITATION ON NEW ENROLLMENT.—
11 (A) IN GENERAL.—Except as provided in
12 this paragraph, the individual health insurance
13 issuer offering such coverage does not enroll
14 any individual in such coverage if the first
15 effective date of coverage is on or after the first
16 day of Y1.

This will cause private insurance pools to shrink until that company goes out of business forcing everyone onto the option-less government plan. I would at least like the option to provide my own health care. A 10 page health care bill would be enough. [ame="httphttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcBaSP31Be8&feature=player_embedded"]Whats in H.R.3200[/ame] Republicans are NOT the party of NO!

 

[Sekhmet]

So who is taking the lead on letting the public, the entitled class, know how long its going to take for all this to kick in.. Do they know that it gets paid into for four years before the system fundamentally changes,and they will, at that point, be months away from seeing their doctor, if he hasnt retired or just quit to work at Home Depot.
So many good talking points in this HC debacle, and yet, those silent Republicans are like mutes.
The entitled class, yes you, are you going to be happy about the limited access to any doctor you will have?