15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense

[Fort Fun Indiana]

How is it a "myth" if that's precisely what the experiments prove?

The experiments prove exactly the opposite, sorry. As I spelled out for you.

A photon behaves the same way when it hits the eye of an insect as it does when it hits the eye of a human.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

No.

Frankly it doesn't seem to be appreciated these days that science cannot answer some questions, there are real things that cannot be understood using science.

That's a fair and honest answer

Personally, I think that if that wasn't a simulation, we'd have gotten the instruction manual much earlier in life, before we formed almost all our opinions and had most of our life experiences. It's set up to be just short of impossible to figure it out in a lifetime

But maybe that's the what we asked for in this simulation; the previous ones were either far too easy or impossible to master

 

[rightwinger]

You've got it backward. The wolf is a product of intelligent design. The 'frankendog' is a product of unnatural selective breeding by atheistic scientists.

The wolf is an example of evolution

The pug is an example of what happens when someone tries to design a creature

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

That's a fair and honest answer

Personally, I think that if that wasn't a simulation, we'd have gotten the instruction manual much earlier in life, before we formed almost all our opinions and had most of our life experiences. It's set up to be just short of impossible to figure it out in a lifetime

But maybe that's the what we asked for in this simulation; the previous ones were either far too easy or impossible to master

Simulations needs simulators, mechanisms used to represent an analog of the thing being simulated. This then begs the question, is the simulator too, a simulation?

Consider a VM like say VMware, that is a simulator, it simulates a computer but is itself software that runs on another computer. We can run a VM on a computer then login to the VM and run another VM on the first VM and can do so on and on.

The term "simulation" is abused all over the web, due to people being misled by movies and so on.

A simulation is JUST software like any other software is it just information, data and instructions.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

The wolf is an example of evolution

What is this then, is it too an example of evolution?

The pug is an example of what happens when someone try’s to design a creature

Well despite it's shortcoming they are popular, very popular so the designer must have done something right.

 

[rightwinger]

What is this then, is it too an example of evolution?

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Well despite it's shortcoming they are popular, very popular so the designer must have done something right.

Pugs are freaks designed for amusement of pet owners.
They have difficulty breathing and eye problems among other things.

Something natural selection would have corrected

 

[Woodznutz]

What is that design? ... a single wolf is easy prey for a puma ... that's not very intelligent ...

Maybe that's why they run in packs.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Pugs are freaks designed for amusement of pet owners.
They have difficulty breathing and eye problems among other things.

Well if they were designed to appeal to certain kinds of people and those people seek out such pets, then by definition it is a good design.

One doesn't evaluate the efficacy of a design by anything other then whether it meets its goals, if it does it's a good design.

I regard these boots as bad design, but she doesn't:

Something natural selection would have corrected

The term "corrected" has no place in evolution. Evolution presumes no decision making, no good or bad design, it can "correct" nothing, it is mindless, has no intent or goal. If it did "correct" things then we must accept that evolution too created the very things that are being corrected.

 

[Woodznutz]

" Strong Anthropic Principle States That The Universe Is Designed For Life To Develop "

* Advanced Gardening Techniques *

The creation in full form premise is more analogous with extraterrestrials than a goad behind the scenes , and few would be willing to equate them with their notion of goad .

What is "goad"?

 

[Woodznutz]

Well if they were designed to appeal to certain kinds of people and those people seek out such pets, then by definition it is a good design.

One doesn't evaluate the efficacy of a design by anything other then whether it meets its goals, if it does it's a good design.

I regard these boots as bad design, but she doesn't:

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The term "corrected" has no place in evolution. Evolution presumes no decision making, no good or bad design, it can "correct" nothing, it is mindless, has no intent or goal.

I like her design.

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

I like her design.

Down boy.

 

[Woodznutz]

If the wolf design is so intelligent, why did it have to be refined by 50 million years of natural selection? Why have 99% of their ancestor species gone extinct?

Because it was not designed by anything but a slow process of selection.

God designed all creatures to function in the current ecological environment. See Genesis 1. He did away with those he made in the past. Wiped the slate clean as it were.

 

[Woodznutz]

Down boy.

Killjoy.

 

[rightwinger]

Well if they were designed to appeal to certain kinds of people and those people seek out such pets, then by definition it is a good design.

One doesn't evaluate the efficacy of a design by anything other then whether it meets its goals, if it does it's a good design.

I regard these boots as bad design, but she doesn't:

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The term "corrected" has no place in evolution. Evolution presumes no decision making, no good or bad design, it can "correct" nothing, it is mindless, has no intent or goal. If it did "correct" things then we must accept that evolution too created the very things that are being corrected.

Boots do not suffer if they are designed poorly
Pugs do

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Boots do not suffer if they are designed poorly
Pugs do

I don't disagree, but that's a different argument to the poor design one we were just talking about, also you seem to have not answered my question, is this beast too a product of evolution? it's named Anomalocaris:

 

[Woodznutz]

Boots do not suffer if they are designed poorly
Pugs do

Those boots look great for our Wisconsin winters, or sitting in a football stadium for three hours in subzero temps.

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Made In The Image Of Hue Mammon "

* Euphemism Of Accurate Description *

What is "goad"?

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" Made In The Image Of Goad " * Explanation Required * The hue mammon ape makes a claim that it is made in the image of goad , yet what are the implications of such a claim ?

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Definition of GOAD

to incite or rouse as if with a goad; to drive (an animal) with a goad… See the full definition

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[Sherlock Holmes]

" Made In The Image Of Hue Mammon "

* Euphemism Of Accurate Description *

Zone1 - Made In The Image Of Goad

" Made In The Image Of Goad " * Explanation Required * The hue mammon ape makes a claim that it is made in the image of goad , yet what are the implications of such a claim ?

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Definition of GOAD

to incite or rouse as if with a goad; to drive (an animal) with a goad… See the full definition

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One should not take the name of Goad in vain.

 

[rightwinger]

I don't disagree, but that's a different argument to the poor design one we were just talking about, also you seem to have not answered my question, is this beast too a product of evolution? it's named Anomalocaris:

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Why not?

 

[Sherlock Holmes]

Why not?

I can only speculate, erm let me see; you don't know the answer? is that why you haven't answered my question?