130 nations agree to support U.S. proposal for global minimum tax on corporations

[bripat9643]

American corporations have a right to take their business to any country they choose, that offers the highest profits for their shareholders.

If that happens to be China where the biggest market opportunities exist and low wages are taken advantage of then that's the corporatists' democratic right!

To interfere with the corporations' rights is equivalent to communism!

Or in other words, fuk American workers and their illusions of a fair living wage! Who do they think they are anyway?

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Other considerations are taken into account in the world's 'other' democracies, but they're not America.

You are the same idiots who attacked Trump's tariffs on China.

 

[Burgermeister]

It's amazing how liberals get everything wrong.

 

[bripat9643]

Source: CNBC.COM
Link to story: 130 nations agree to support U.S. proposal for global minimum tax on corporations

“WASHINGTON - Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced Thursday that a group of 130 nations has agreed to a global minimum tax on corporations, part of a broader agreement to overhaul international tax rules.

If widely enacted, the GMT would effectively end the practice of global corporations seeking out low-tax jurisdictions like Ireland and the British Virgin Islands to move their headquarters to, even though their customers, operations and executives are located elsewhere.

“For decades, the United States has participated in a self-defeating international tax competition, lowering our corporate tax rates only to watch other nations lower theirs in response. The result was a global race to the bottom: Who could lower their corporate rate further and faster? No nation has won this race,” said Yellen in a statement on the accord.

“Today’s agreement by 130 countries representing more than 90 percent of global GDP is a clear sign: the race to the bottom is one step closer to coming to an end,” Yellen said.

The deal also reportedly includes a framework to eliminate digital services taxes, which targeted the biggest American tech companies.

In their place, officials agreed to a new tax plan that would be linked to the places where multinationals are actually doing business, rather than where they are headquartered”

Interesting, I’m surprised the GMT proposal is moving this quickly after it was endorsed by the G-7 just a short time ago, looks like that now 90% of the worlds GDP has agreed to it in principle. Frankly I didn’t really believe it would get this far given all the hurdles. The agreement on digital service taxes is also an important plus for the American Tech Sector, surprised the EU is going along with it.

This will be a big foreign policy win for the Biden Administration if it does actually come to fruition, of course there is still a long way to go.

To be enforced by whom?

Dunno, there aren’t any details of the enforcement mechanisms that have been made available yet. If I had to guess, the enforcement mechanisms will center around tariffs.

Does national sovereignty mean anything at all to you?

Where is the problem with “sovereignty” here? This is something that nations are free to agree to or not agree to, not to mention each nation still retains direct authority over its own tax code. It’s no more a violation of sovereignty than an international arms limitation treaty.

God damn bro they are making up a number out of thin air, that you must pay

Are you referring to the proposed 15% minimum GMT? If so, are you aware that’s significantly LOWER than the current U.S. corporate tax rate? Are you also aware that there is a possibility that U.S. citizens will pay LESS in taxes and retain MORE domestic business activity from this proposal. Again, why do you want to pay taxes to subsidize foreign countries?

You don't see anything wrong with this?

I see all kinds of potential things wrong with it, however I see A LOT more wrong with the current system of exploitation being practiced by large multinational corporations.

Killing investment is a great way to increase jobs. I see why you like it

How does this proposal “kill investment”?

Higher taxes always kill investment, moron. The money collected in additional taxes would have been invested. Even a fifth grader can understand that.

You seem to be very confused about taxation and its effects.

A tax like this will actually increase investment because corporations would rather spend money on their company than pay it in taxes. Any management that didnt feel like that would not be in place for long.

So the money gets invested in R and D or new plant or refurbs or more people. Its all good as it generates growth in the economy.

Do you understand this or shall I try and simplify it for you ?

The money spent would have all gone back into the stock market, moron. Few companies pay dividends these days anyway.

 

[Rigby5]

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If the corporate tax is baseline across the globe, corporations will then head to countries with a lower minimum wage.

And no, that won't be the US of A.

Sounds like the democrats will put a dagger in the economic heart of the US once and for all.

US corporations have already headed to countries with a lower minimum wage. That's how capitalism works!

This is an attempt to put restraints on capitalism.

So far, America is refusing to consider the many possible homegrown restraints that are needed. The world's leading democracies have and thier success is measured by their quality of life standing.

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Restraining capitalism is extremely important and why we create government in the first place.
If government did not restrain capitalism, then whomever could afford the most thugs would dictate to the rest of us, and we would be back in feudal times.

US technology requires investment, and it should be illegal to then move that technology to other countries.

America's corporations are doing the moving of their corporations to other countries.
Does anybody think that China is forcing them to come to China?

So you want to hold people hostage, by gun point and force them to pay?


This is mob action at it's finest

Of course you have to force people to pay taxes.
No one would pay taxes if they were optional, so then the country would disintegrate into a 3rd world state of primitivness.

 

[bripat9643]

Source: CNBC.COM
Link to story: 130 nations agree to support U.S. proposal for global minimum tax on corporations

“WASHINGTON - Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced Thursday that a group of 130 nations has agreed to a global minimum tax on corporations, part of a broader agreement to overhaul international tax rules.

If widely enacted, the GMT would effectively end the practice of global corporations seeking out low-tax jurisdictions like Ireland and the British Virgin Islands to move their headquarters to, even though their customers, operations and executives are located elsewhere.

“For decades, the United States has participated in a self-defeating international tax competition, lowering our corporate tax rates only to watch other nations lower theirs in response. The result was a global race to the bottom: Who could lower their corporate rate further and faster? No nation has won this race,” said Yellen in a statement on the accord.

“Today’s agreement by 130 countries representing more than 90 percent of global GDP is a clear sign: the race to the bottom is one step closer to coming to an end,” Yellen said.

The deal also reportedly includes a framework to eliminate digital services taxes, which targeted the biggest American tech companies.

In their place, officials agreed to a new tax plan that would be linked to the places where multinationals are actually doing business, rather than where they are headquartered”

Interesting, I’m surprised the GMT proposal is moving this quickly after it was endorsed by the G-7 just a short time ago, looks like that now 90% of the worlds GDP has agreed to it in principle. Frankly I didn’t really believe it would get this far given all the hurdles. The agreement on digital service taxes is also an important plus for the American Tech Sector, surprised the EU is going along with it.

This will be a big foreign policy win for the Biden Administration if it does actually come to fruition, of course there is still a long way to go.

To be enforced by whom?

Dunno, there aren’t any details of the enforcement mechanisms that have been made available yet. If I had to guess, the enforcement mechanisms will center around tariffs.

Does national sovereignty mean anything at all to you?

Where is the problem with “sovereignty” here? This is something that nations are free to agree to or not agree to, not to mention each nation still retains direct authority over its own tax code. It’s no more a violation of sovereignty than an international arms limitation treaty.

God damn bro they are making up a number out of thin air, that you must pay

Are you referring to the proposed 15% minimum GMT? If so, are you aware that’s significantly LOWER than the current U.S. corporate tax rate? Are you also aware that there is a possibility that U.S. citizens will pay LESS in taxes and retain MORE domestic business activity from this proposal. Again, why do you want to pay taxes to subsidize foreign countries?

You don't see anything wrong with this?

I see all kinds of potential things wrong with it, however I see A LOT more wrong with the current system of exploitation being practiced by large multinational corporations.

No Dim proposal will ever lower the amount we pay in taxes. Who are you trying to kid?

If everybody paid their fair share then the individual burden would be less.

Define “fair share” and who gets to decide what it is?

The people eventually decide. The level of taxation is one of the policies that should differentiate political parties.

Yes we know. Democrats want taxes to be set at infinity.

I doubt that very much. you seem to be very agitated about this.

Progs always doubt obvious facts. When has the left ever proposed to cut spending?

 

[Flash]

Is there anything in the world that these stupid uneducated greedy Libtards like better than taxes? I don't think so. It has to be tops on their list.

 

[Rigby5]

Source: CNBC.COM
Link to story: 130 nations agree to support U.S. proposal for global minimum tax on corporations

“WASHINGTON - Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced Thursday that a group of 130 nations has agreed to a global minimum tax on corporations, part of a broader agreement to overhaul international tax rules.

If widely enacted, the GMT would effectively end the practice of global corporations seeking out low-tax jurisdictions like Ireland and the British Virgin Islands to move their headquarters to, even though their customers, operations and executives are located elsewhere.

“For decades, the United States has participated in a self-defeating international tax competition, lowering our corporate tax rates only to watch other nations lower theirs in response. The result was a global race to the bottom: Who could lower their corporate rate further and faster? No nation has won this race,” said Yellen in a statement on the accord.

“Today’s agreement by 130 countries representing more than 90 percent of global GDP is a clear sign: the race to the bottom is one step closer to coming to an end,” Yellen said.

The deal also reportedly includes a framework to eliminate digital services taxes, which targeted the biggest American tech companies.

In their place, officials agreed to a new tax plan that would be linked to the places where multinationals are actually doing business, rather than where they are headquartered”

Interesting, I’m surprised the GMT proposal is moving this quickly after it was endorsed by the G-7 just a short time ago, looks like that now 90% of the worlds GDP has agreed to it in principle. Frankly I didn’t really believe it would get this far given all the hurdles. The agreement on digital service taxes is also an important plus for the American Tech Sector, surprised the EU is going along with it.

This will be a big foreign policy win for the Biden Administration if it does actually come to fruition, of course there is still a long way to go.

When you tax corporations you take part of their revenue. They pass along that shortfall to their employees and raise the prices of their goods and services.

Not really.
When you have a high corporate tax, that encourages companies to raise wages and lower prices, so that they don't have to pay any corporate taxes.
Where do people get the mistaken idea that corporate taxes are based on gross instead of net earnings?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Source: CNBC.COM
Link to story: 130 nations agree to support U.S. proposal for global minimum tax on corporations

“WASHINGTON - Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced Thursday that a group of 130 nations has agreed to a global minimum tax on corporations, part of a broader agreement to overhaul international tax rules.

If widely enacted, the GMT would effectively end the practice of global corporations seeking out low-tax jurisdictions like Ireland and the British Virgin Islands to move their headquarters to, even though their customers, operations and executives are located elsewhere.

“For decades, the United States has participated in a self-defeating international tax competition, lowering our corporate tax rates only to watch other nations lower theirs in response. The result was a global race to the bottom: Who could lower their corporate rate further and faster? No nation has won this race,” said Yellen in a statement on the accord.

“Today’s agreement by 130 countries representing more than 90 percent of global GDP is a clear sign: the race to the bottom is one step closer to coming to an end,” Yellen said.

The deal also reportedly includes a framework to eliminate digital services taxes, which targeted the biggest American tech companies.

In their place, officials agreed to a new tax plan that would be linked to the places where multinationals are actually doing business, rather than where they are headquartered”

Interesting, I’m surprised the GMT proposal is moving this quickly after it was endorsed by the G-7 just a short time ago, looks like that now 90% of the worlds GDP has agreed to it in principle. Frankly I didn’t really believe it would get this far given all the hurdles. The agreement on digital service taxes is also an important plus for the American Tech Sector, surprised the EU is going along with it.

This will be a big foreign policy win for the Biden Administration if it does actually come to fruition, of course there is still a long way to go.

To be enforced by whom?

Dunno, there aren’t any details of the enforcement mechanisms that have been made available yet. If I had to guess, the enforcement mechanisms will center around tariffs.

Does national sovereignty mean anything at all to you?

Where is the problem with “sovereignty” here? This is something that nations are free to agree to or not agree to, not to mention each nation still retains direct authority over its own tax code. It’s no more a violation of sovereignty than an international arms limitation treaty.

God damn bro they are making up a number out of thin air, that you must pay

Are you referring to the proposed 15% minimum GMT? If so, are you aware that’s significantly LOWER than the current U.S. corporate tax rate? Are you also aware that there is a possibility that U.S. citizens will pay LESS in taxes and retain MORE domestic business activity from this proposal. Again, why do you want to pay taxes to subsidize foreign countries?

You don't see anything wrong with this?

I see all kinds of potential things wrong with it, however I see A LOT more wrong with the current system of exploitation being practiced by large multinational corporations.

Killing investment is a great way to increase jobs. I see why you like it

How does this proposal “kill investment”?

Higher taxes always kill investment, moron. The money collected in additional taxes would have been invested. Even a fifth grader can understand that.

You seem to be very confused about taxation and its effects.

A tax like this will actually increase investment because corporations would rather spend money on their company than pay it in taxes. Any management that didnt feel like that would not be in place for long.

So the money gets invested in R and D or new plant or refurbs or more people. Its all good as it generates growth in the economy.

Do you understand this or shall I try and simplify it for you ?

The money spent would have all gone back into the stock market, moron. Few companies pay dividends these days anyway.

Ok you didnt understand. I think you are a bit out of your depth here.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Source: CNBC.COM
Link to story: 130 nations agree to support U.S. proposal for global minimum tax on corporations

“WASHINGTON - Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced Thursday that a group of 130 nations has agreed to a global minimum tax on corporations, part of a broader agreement to overhaul international tax rules.

If widely enacted, the GMT would effectively end the practice of global corporations seeking out low-tax jurisdictions like Ireland and the British Virgin Islands to move their headquarters to, even though their customers, operations and executives are located elsewhere.

“For decades, the United States has participated in a self-defeating international tax competition, lowering our corporate tax rates only to watch other nations lower theirs in response. The result was a global race to the bottom: Who could lower their corporate rate further and faster? No nation has won this race,” said Yellen in a statement on the accord.

“Today’s agreement by 130 countries representing more than 90 percent of global GDP is a clear sign: the race to the bottom is one step closer to coming to an end,” Yellen said.

The deal also reportedly includes a framework to eliminate digital services taxes, which targeted the biggest American tech companies.

In their place, officials agreed to a new tax plan that would be linked to the places where multinationals are actually doing business, rather than where they are headquartered”

Interesting, I’m surprised the GMT proposal is moving this quickly after it was endorsed by the G-7 just a short time ago, looks like that now 90% of the worlds GDP has agreed to it in principle. Frankly I didn’t really believe it would get this far given all the hurdles. The agreement on digital service taxes is also an important plus for the American Tech Sector, surprised the EU is going along with it.

This will be a big foreign policy win for the Biden Administration if it does actually come to fruition, of course there is still a long way to go.

When you tax corporations you take part of their revenue. They pass along that shortfall to their employees and raise the prices of their goods and services.

Not really.
When you have a high corporate tax, that encourages companies to raise wages and lower prices, so that they don't have to pay any corporate taxes.
Where do people get the mistaken idea that corporate taxes are based on gross instead of net earnings?

You need to explain net and gross.

 

[NightFox]

Source: CNBC.COM
Link to story: 130 nations agree to support U.S. proposal for global minimum tax on corporations

“WASHINGTON - Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced Thursday that a group of 130 nations has agreed to a global minimum tax on corporations, part of a broader agreement to overhaul international tax rules.

If widely enacted, the GMT would effectively end the practice of global corporations seeking out low-tax jurisdictions like Ireland and the British Virgin Islands to move their headquarters to, even though their customers, operations and executives are located elsewhere.

“For decades, the United States has participated in a self-defeating international tax competition, lowering our corporate tax rates only to watch other nations lower theirs in response. The result was a global race to the bottom: Who could lower their corporate rate further and faster? No nation has won this race,” said Yellen in a statement on the accord.

“Today’s agreement by 130 countries representing more than 90 percent of global GDP is a clear sign: the race to the bottom is one step closer to coming to an end,” Yellen said.

The deal also reportedly includes a framework to eliminate digital services taxes, which targeted the biggest American tech companies.

In their place, officials agreed to a new tax plan that would be linked to the places where multinationals are actually doing business, rather than where they are headquartered”

Interesting, I’m surprised the GMT proposal is moving this quickly after it was endorsed by the G-7 just a short time ago, looks like that now 90% of the worlds GDP has agreed to it in principle. Frankly I didn’t really believe it would get this far given all the hurdles. The agreement on digital service taxes is also an important plus for the American Tech Sector, surprised the EU is going along with it.

This will be a big foreign policy win for the Biden Administration if it does actually come to fruition, of course there is still a long way to go.

To be enforced by whom?

Dunno, there aren’t any details of the enforcement mechanisms that have been made available yet. If I had to guess, the enforcement mechanisms will center around tariffs.

Does national sovereignty mean anything at all to you?

Where is the problem with “sovereignty” here? This is something that nations are free to agree to or not agree to, not to mention each nation still retains direct authority over its own tax code. It’s no more a violation of sovereignty than an international arms limitation treaty.

God damn bro they are making up a number out of thin air, that you must pay

Are you referring to the proposed 15% minimum GMT? If so, are you aware that’s significantly LOWER than the current U.S. corporate tax rate? Are you also aware that there is a possibility that U.S. citizens will pay LESS in taxes and retain MORE domestic business activity from this proposal. Again, why do you want to pay taxes to subsidize foreign countries?

You don't see anything wrong with this?

I see all kinds of potential things wrong with it, however I see A LOT more wrong with the current system of exploitation being practiced by large multinational corporations.

Killing investment is a great way to increase jobs. I see why you like it

How does this proposal “kill investment”?

Higher taxes always kill investment, moron. The money collected in additional taxes would have been invested. Even a fifth grader can understand that.

You seem to be very confused about taxation and its effects.

A tax like this will actually increase investment because corporations would rather spend money on their company than pay it in taxes. Any management that didnt feel like that would not be in place for long.

So the money gets invested in R and D or new plant or refurbs or more people. Its all good as it generates growth in the economy.

Do you understand this or shall I try and simplify it for you ?

That's only partially accurate Tommy , generally speaking a corporation will only invest profits back into itself if the Internal Rate of Return makes sense to shareholders for it to do so, otherwise it will distribute those profits back to shareholders in the form of dividends so that shareholders can invest in other assets that offer higher rates of return.

 

[Rigby5]

Taxes used to be raised in order to fight wars. Now they pay for our roads, water,health and education. Corporations benefit from all of that and they should pay their way.

America's corporations would yield to force Tommy. It's always going to be up to the American people to change their attitudes to allowing corporations unfettered rights.

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The world's leading democracies had addressed the issue long ago and that led to their success.

Not even Biden is there yet, and his democratic party is miles off being able to break free of the corporate hold on the American way of greedy and unfettered capitalism.

Maybe they'll try Trump again? He's a corporatist who must surely have the ideas it takes to uphold corporate control of their country! LOL

Trump was very much against this. He threatened the French and others when they mooted this a couple of years back.

Obviously Trump would be against any restraint on corporations. He's a fkng corporatist himself!

That's what makes it so mindbending to understand why so many poor ignorant American louts would turn to him for answers.

And then still have faith in him when he failed to deliver the goods!

This kind of bullshit won't bring America's corporations into line. It's still going to have to be an attitude adjustment by Americans who lick the corporatists' asses.

I am not sure, but I believe Trump was against the corporate trend of offshoring.
That is because offshoring is very short sighted.
It temporarily raises corporate profits, but lowers the standard of living in the US in the long term, and puts the corporation at the mercy of the Chinese government, which is a very bad idea.
The Trump tariff war indicates he is for the US more than for corporations.

 

[Quasar44]

Entire global warming thing is a giant massive fraud that is all about $$$$

 

[Rigby5]

Source: CNBC.COM
Link to story: 130 nations agree to support U.S. proposal for global minimum tax on corporations

“WASHINGTON - Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced Thursday that a group of 130 nations has agreed to a global minimum tax on corporations, part of a broader agreement to overhaul international tax rules.

If widely enacted, the GMT would effectively end the practice of global corporations seeking out low-tax jurisdictions like Ireland and the British Virgin Islands to move their headquarters to, even though their customers, operations and executives are located elsewhere.

“For decades, the United States has participated in a self-defeating international tax competition, lowering our corporate tax rates only to watch other nations lower theirs in response. The result was a global race to the bottom: Who could lower their corporate rate further and faster? No nation has won this race,” said Yellen in a statement on the accord.

“Today’s agreement by 130 countries representing more than 90 percent of global GDP is a clear sign: the race to the bottom is one step closer to coming to an end,” Yellen said.

The deal also reportedly includes a framework to eliminate digital services taxes, which targeted the biggest American tech companies.

In their place, officials agreed to a new tax plan that would be linked to the places where multinationals are actually doing business, rather than where they are headquartered”

Interesting, I’m surprised the GMT proposal is moving this quickly after it was endorsed by the G-7 just a short time ago, looks like that now 90% of the worlds GDP has agreed to it in principle. Frankly I didn’t really believe it would get this far given all the hurdles. The agreement on digital service taxes is also an important plus for the American Tech Sector, surprised the EU is going along with it.

This will be a big foreign policy win for the Biden Administration if it does actually come to fruition, of course there is still a long way to go.

To be enforced by whom?

Dunno, there aren’t any details of the enforcement mechanisms that have been made available yet. If I had to guess, the enforcement mechanisms will center around tariffs.

Does national sovereignty mean anything at all to you?

Where is the problem with “sovereignty” here? This is something that nations are free to agree to or not agree to, not to mention each nation still retains direct authority over its own tax code. It’s no more a violation of sovereignty than an international arms limitation treaty.

God damn bro they are making up a number out of thin air, that you must pay

Are you referring to the proposed 15% minimum GMT? If so, are you aware that’s significantly LOWER than the current U.S. corporate tax rate? Are you also aware that there is a possibility that U.S. citizens will pay LESS in taxes and retain MORE domestic business activity from this proposal. Again, why do you want to pay taxes to subsidize foreign countries?

You don't see anything wrong with this?

I see all kinds of potential things wrong with it, however I see A LOT more wrong with the current system of exploitation being practiced by large multinational corporations.

Killing investment is a great way to increase jobs. I see why you like it

How does this proposal “kill investment”?

Higher taxes always kill investment, moron. The money collected in additional taxes would have been invested. Even a fifth grader can understand that.

You seem to be very confused about taxation and its effects.

A tax like this will actually increase investment because corporations would rather spend money on their company than pay it in taxes. Any management that didnt feel like that would not be in place for long.

So the money gets invested in R and D or new plant or refurbs or more people. Its all good as it generates growth in the economy.

Do you understand this or shall I try and simplify it for you ?

The money spent would have all gone back into the stock market, moron. Few companies pay dividends these days anyway.

The only time corporate profits go back to the stock market is if the corporation decides to buy up its own stock.
Normally the only money in the stock market comes from people wanting to buy stocks.
It is true few stocks pay dividends, but they all would if the alternative was paying corporate income taxes.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Source: CNBC.COM
Link to story: 130 nations agree to support U.S. proposal for global minimum tax on corporations

“WASHINGTON - Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced Thursday that a group of 130 nations has agreed to a global minimum tax on corporations, part of a broader agreement to overhaul international tax rules.

If widely enacted, the GMT would effectively end the practice of global corporations seeking out low-tax jurisdictions like Ireland and the British Virgin Islands to move their headquarters to, even though their customers, operations and executives are located elsewhere.

“For decades, the United States has participated in a self-defeating international tax competition, lowering our corporate tax rates only to watch other nations lower theirs in response. The result was a global race to the bottom: Who could lower their corporate rate further and faster? No nation has won this race,” said Yellen in a statement on the accord.

“Today’s agreement by 130 countries representing more than 90 percent of global GDP is a clear sign: the race to the bottom is one step closer to coming to an end,” Yellen said.

The deal also reportedly includes a framework to eliminate digital services taxes, which targeted the biggest American tech companies.

In their place, officials agreed to a new tax plan that would be linked to the places where multinationals are actually doing business, rather than where they are headquartered”

Interesting, I’m surprised the GMT proposal is moving this quickly after it was endorsed by the G-7 just a short time ago, looks like that now 90% of the worlds GDP has agreed to it in principle. Frankly I didn’t really believe it would get this far given all the hurdles. The agreement on digital service taxes is also an important plus for the American Tech Sector, surprised the EU is going along with it.

This will be a big foreign policy win for the Biden Administration if it does actually come to fruition, of course there is still a long way to go.

To be enforced by whom?

Dunno, there aren’t any details of the enforcement mechanisms that have been made available yet. If I had to guess, the enforcement mechanisms will center around tariffs.

Does national sovereignty mean anything at all to you?

Where is the problem with “sovereignty” here? This is something that nations are free to agree to or not agree to, not to mention each nation still retains direct authority over its own tax code. It’s no more a violation of sovereignty than an international arms limitation treaty.

God damn bro they are making up a number out of thin air, that you must pay

Are you referring to the proposed 15% minimum GMT? If so, are you aware that’s significantly LOWER than the current U.S. corporate tax rate? Are you also aware that there is a possibility that U.S. citizens will pay LESS in taxes and retain MORE domestic business activity from this proposal. Again, why do you want to pay taxes to subsidize foreign countries?

You don't see anything wrong with this?

I see all kinds of potential things wrong with it, however I see A LOT more wrong with the current system of exploitation being practiced by large multinational corporations.

Killing investment is a great way to increase jobs. I see why you like it

How does this proposal “kill investment”?

Higher taxes always kill investment, moron. The money collected in additional taxes would have been invested. Even a fifth grader can understand that.

You seem to be very confused about taxation and its effects.

A tax like this will actually increase investment because corporations would rather spend money on their company than pay it in taxes. Any management that didnt feel like that would not be in place for long.

So the money gets invested in R and D or new plant or refurbs or more people. Its all good as it generates growth in the economy.

Do you understand this or shall I try and simplify it for you ?

That's only partially accurate Tommy , generally speaking a corporation will only invest profits back into itself if the Internal Rate of Return makes sense to shareholders for it to do so, otherwise it will distribute those profits back to shareholders in the form of dividends so that shareholders can invest in other assets that offer higher rates of return.

Its a bit different over here. You would need to be pretty dumb to pay tax on your dividens . Most folk invest through their pensions or ISAs which are tax free.
Companies are more likely to invest,pay down debt or buy back shares. that would depend on their position at the time.

 

[bripat9643]

Source: CNBC.COM
Link to story: 130 nations agree to support U.S. proposal for global minimum tax on corporations

“WASHINGTON - Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced Thursday that a group of 130 nations has agreed to a global minimum tax on corporations, part of a broader agreement to overhaul international tax rules.

If widely enacted, the GMT would effectively end the practice of global corporations seeking out low-tax jurisdictions like Ireland and the British Virgin Islands to move their headquarters to, even though their customers, operations and executives are located elsewhere.

“For decades, the United States has participated in a self-defeating international tax competition, lowering our corporate tax rates only to watch other nations lower theirs in response. The result was a global race to the bottom: Who could lower their corporate rate further and faster? No nation has won this race,” said Yellen in a statement on the accord.

“Today’s agreement by 130 countries representing more than 90 percent of global GDP is a clear sign: the race to the bottom is one step closer to coming to an end,” Yellen said.

The deal also reportedly includes a framework to eliminate digital services taxes, which targeted the biggest American tech companies.

In their place, officials agreed to a new tax plan that would be linked to the places where multinationals are actually doing business, rather than where they are headquartered”

Interesting, I’m surprised the GMT proposal is moving this quickly after it was endorsed by the G-7 just a short time ago, looks like that now 90% of the worlds GDP has agreed to it in principle. Frankly I didn’t really believe it would get this far given all the hurdles. The agreement on digital service taxes is also an important plus for the American Tech Sector, surprised the EU is going along with it.

This will be a big foreign policy win for the Biden Administration if it does actually come to fruition, of course there is still a long way to go.

To be enforced by whom?

Dunno, there aren’t any details of the enforcement mechanisms that have been made available yet. If I had to guess, the enforcement mechanisms will center around tariffs.

Does national sovereignty mean anything at all to you?

Where is the problem with “sovereignty” here? This is something that nations are free to agree to or not agree to, not to mention each nation still retains direct authority over its own tax code. It’s no more a violation of sovereignty than an international arms limitation treaty.

God damn bro they are making up a number out of thin air, that you must pay

Are you referring to the proposed 15% minimum GMT? If so, are you aware that’s significantly LOWER than the current U.S. corporate tax rate? Are you also aware that there is a possibility that U.S. citizens will pay LESS in taxes and retain MORE domestic business activity from this proposal. Again, why do you want to pay taxes to subsidize foreign countries?

You don't see anything wrong with this?

I see all kinds of potential things wrong with it, however I see A LOT more wrong with the current system of exploitation being practiced by large multinational corporations.

Killing investment is a great way to increase jobs. I see why you like it

How does this proposal “kill investment”?

Higher taxes always kill investment, moron. The money collected in additional taxes would have been invested. Even a fifth grader can understand that.

You seem to be very confused about taxation and its effects.

A tax like this will actually increase investment because corporations would rather spend money on their company than pay it in taxes. Any management that didnt feel like that would not be in place for long.

So the money gets invested in R and D or new plant or refurbs or more people. Its all good as it generates growth in the economy.

Do you understand this or shall I try and simplify it for you ?

The money spent would have all gone back into the stock market, moron. Few companies pay dividends these days anyway.

Ok you didnt understand. I think you are a bit out of your depth here.

It's you who doesn't understand.

 

[Rigby5]

Is there anything in the world that these stupid uneducated greedy Libtards like better than taxes? I don't think so. It has to be tops on their list.

Most government spending, so then most taxes, are for the military. Which is right wing, not liberal or left wing.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Source: CNBC.COM
Link to story: 130 nations agree to support U.S. proposal for global minimum tax on corporations

“WASHINGTON - Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced Thursday that a group of 130 nations has agreed to a global minimum tax on corporations, part of a broader agreement to overhaul international tax rules.

If widely enacted, the GMT would effectively end the practice of global corporations seeking out low-tax jurisdictions like Ireland and the British Virgin Islands to move their headquarters to, even though their customers, operations and executives are located elsewhere.

“For decades, the United States has participated in a self-defeating international tax competition, lowering our corporate tax rates only to watch other nations lower theirs in response. The result was a global race to the bottom: Who could lower their corporate rate further and faster? No nation has won this race,” said Yellen in a statement on the accord.

“Today’s agreement by 130 countries representing more than 90 percent of global GDP is a clear sign: the race to the bottom is one step closer to coming to an end,” Yellen said.

The deal also reportedly includes a framework to eliminate digital services taxes, which targeted the biggest American tech companies.

In their place, officials agreed to a new tax plan that would be linked to the places where multinationals are actually doing business, rather than where they are headquartered”

Interesting, I’m surprised the GMT proposal is moving this quickly after it was endorsed by the G-7 just a short time ago, looks like that now 90% of the worlds GDP has agreed to it in principle. Frankly I didn’t really believe it would get this far given all the hurdles. The agreement on digital service taxes is also an important plus for the American Tech Sector, surprised the EU is going along with it.

This will be a big foreign policy win for the Biden Administration if it does actually come to fruition, of course there is still a long way to go.

To be enforced by whom?

Dunno, there aren’t any details of the enforcement mechanisms that have been made available yet. If I had to guess, the enforcement mechanisms will center around tariffs.

Does national sovereignty mean anything at all to you?

Where is the problem with “sovereignty” here? This is something that nations are free to agree to or not agree to, not to mention each nation still retains direct authority over its own tax code. It’s no more a violation of sovereignty than an international arms limitation treaty.

God damn bro they are making up a number out of thin air, that you must pay

Are you referring to the proposed 15% minimum GMT? If so, are you aware that’s significantly LOWER than the current U.S. corporate tax rate? Are you also aware that there is a possibility that U.S. citizens will pay LESS in taxes and retain MORE domestic business activity from this proposal. Again, why do you want to pay taxes to subsidize foreign countries?

You don't see anything wrong with this?

I see all kinds of potential things wrong with it, however I see A LOT more wrong with the current system of exploitation being practiced by large multinational corporations.

Killing investment is a great way to increase jobs. I see why you like it

How does this proposal “kill investment”?

Higher taxes always kill investment, moron. The money collected in additional taxes would have been invested. Even a fifth grader can understand that.

You seem to be very confused about taxation and its effects.

A tax like this will actually increase investment because corporations would rather spend money on their company than pay it in taxes. Any management that didnt feel like that would not be in place for long.

So the money gets invested in R and D or new plant or refurbs or more people. Its all good as it generates growth in the economy.

Do you understand this or shall I try and simplify it for you ?

The money spent would have all gone back into the stock market, moron. Few companies pay dividends these days anyway.

Ok you didnt understand. I think you are a bit out of your depth here.

It's you who doesn't understand.

What dont I understand ? You are talking gibberish mate.

 

[bripat9643]

Source: CNBC.COM
Link to story: 130 nations agree to support U.S. proposal for global minimum tax on corporations

“WASHINGTON - Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen announced Thursday that a group of 130 nations has agreed to a global minimum tax on corporations, part of a broader agreement to overhaul international tax rules.

If widely enacted, the GMT would effectively end the practice of global corporations seeking out low-tax jurisdictions like Ireland and the British Virgin Islands to move their headquarters to, even though their customers, operations and executives are located elsewhere.

“For decades, the United States has participated in a self-defeating international tax competition, lowering our corporate tax rates only to watch other nations lower theirs in response. The result was a global race to the bottom: Who could lower their corporate rate further and faster? No nation has won this race,” said Yellen in a statement on the accord.

“Today’s agreement by 130 countries representing more than 90 percent of global GDP is a clear sign: the race to the bottom is one step closer to coming to an end,” Yellen said.

The deal also reportedly includes a framework to eliminate digital services taxes, which targeted the biggest American tech companies.

In their place, officials agreed to a new tax plan that would be linked to the places where multinationals are actually doing business, rather than where they are headquartered”

Interesting, I’m surprised the GMT proposal is moving this quickly after it was endorsed by the G-7 just a short time ago, looks like that now 90% of the worlds GDP has agreed to it in principle. Frankly I didn’t really believe it would get this far given all the hurdles. The agreement on digital service taxes is also an important plus for the American Tech Sector, surprised the EU is going along with it.

This will be a big foreign policy win for the Biden Administration if it does actually come to fruition, of course there is still a long way to go.

To be enforced by whom?

Dunno, there aren’t any details of the enforcement mechanisms that have been made available yet. If I had to guess, the enforcement mechanisms will center around tariffs.

Does national sovereignty mean anything at all to you?

Where is the problem with “sovereignty” here? This is something that nations are free to agree to or not agree to, not to mention each nation still retains direct authority over its own tax code. It’s no more a violation of sovereignty than an international arms limitation treaty.

God damn bro they are making up a number out of thin air, that you must pay

Are you referring to the proposed 15% minimum GMT? If so, are you aware that’s significantly LOWER than the current U.S. corporate tax rate? Are you also aware that there is a possibility that U.S. citizens will pay LESS in taxes and retain MORE domestic business activity from this proposal. Again, why do you want to pay taxes to subsidize foreign countries?

You don't see anything wrong with this?

I see all kinds of potential things wrong with it, however I see A LOT more wrong with the current system of exploitation being practiced by large multinational corporations.

Killing investment is a great way to increase jobs. I see why you like it

How does this proposal “kill investment”?

Higher taxes always kill investment, moron. The money collected in additional taxes would have been invested. Even a fifth grader can understand that.

You seem to be very confused about taxation and its effects.

A tax like this will actually increase investment because corporations would rather spend money on their company than pay it in taxes. Any management that didnt feel like that would not be in place for long.

So the money gets invested in R and D or new plant or refurbs or more people. Its all good as it generates growth in the economy.

Do you understand this or shall I try and simplify it for you ?

That's only partially accurate Tommy , generally speaking a corporation will only invest profits back into itself if the Internal Rate of Return makes sense to shareholders for it to do so, otherwise it will distribute those profits back to shareholders in the form of dividends so that shareholders can invest in other assets that offer higher rates of return.

Its a bit different over here. You would need to be pretty dumb to pay tax on your dividens . Most folk invest through their pensions or ISAs which are tax free.
Companies are more likely to invest,pay down debt or buy back shares. that would depend on their position at the time.

You can't invest what the government has taxed away. What debt would Apple pay off? Companies buy back shares only when the price is declining. That means they aren't in good shape.

 

[Oddball]

You don't see anything wrong with this?

I see all kinds of potential things wrong with it, however I see A LOT more wrong with the current system of exploitation being practiced by large multinational corporations.

Killing investment is a great way to increase jobs. I see why you like it

How does this proposal “kill investment”?

OK, think about it.

A company has say a profit of $100 million. They plan to pay their shareholders $50 million. That means they have a $50 million profit.

They don't want to pay taxes on $50 million. Let's say their tax rate is 20%, so they would pay $10 million in taxes.

They have already calculated all their taxes and they can't get out of paying less unless they reduce profit and the only way to do that is spend the money.

OK, now they don't want to throw the money away, so what is the other option? To INVEST the money. That means there are higher future profits by investing in positive NPV profits.

Frankly it's pretty obvious, I can't believe you're creating threads and leading discussions on this without even knowing the basics about how companies operate

How does the practice of multinationals making profit domestically and then expatriating those profits to foreign tax havens factor into your investment equation?

Corporate taxes should be zero. Investors pay taxes now on their profits. Either dividend taxes (distributed profits) or capital gains taxes (retained profits).

The reason companies go to "tax havens" is to escape belligerent government.

I always find people like you who think you're an expert in economics and finance based on nothing fasinating. You have no business education or experience, yet you know everything about everything.

Do you talk to doctors this way about medicine? Do you give them what fer based on your utter lack of medical knowledge?

Corporate taxes should be zero.

Likewise, individual income taxes should be zero.

If there are to be any taxes at all (a premise I reject) gubmint should be limited to surviving off of lawful fees, imposts, and duties, which are specific charges levied to pay for specific services.....This idea of having taxes thrown into a big pot, where politicians and bureaucrats wrangle over them, has given us the mess we have now.

 

[NightFox]

Taxes used to be raised in order to fight wars. Now they pay for our roads, water,health and education. Corporations benefit from all of that and they should pay their way.

America's corporations would yield to force Tommy. It's always going to be up to the American people to change their attitudes to allowing corporations unfettered rights.

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The world's leading democracies had addressed the issue long ago and that led to their success.

Not even Biden is there yet, and his democratic party is miles off being able to break free of the corporate hold on the American way of greedy and unfettered capitalism.

Maybe they'll try Trump again? He's a corporatist who must surely have the ideas it takes to uphold corporate control of their country! LOL

Trump was very much against this. He threatened the French and others when they mooted this a couple of years back.

Obviously Trump would be against any restraint on corporations. He's a fkng corporatist himself!

That's what makes it so mindbending to understand why so many poor ignorant American louts would turn to him for answers.

And then still have faith in him when he failed to deliver the goods!

This kind of bullshit won't bring America's corporations into line. It's still going to have to be an attitude adjustment by Americans who lick the corporatists' asses.

I am not sure, but I believe Trump was against the corporate trend of offshoring.

He was which explains why he supported giving corporations a limited tax benefit for the repatriation of profits. This proposal aims to inhibit the expatriation of profits in the first place.

I can’t see Trump being against this concept since it seeks to address a practice he’s been complaining about since the 1980’s (government manipulation of comparative advantage). Too bad so many of his supporters don’t seem to understand what he was advocating.