12,000 year old calendar found in Turkey

Scientific progress seems to be built solely on the ability to preserve information and expand upon it.

It has nothing to do with people getting smarter.

Or we have information given to us .
One of my favourites are the Dogon Tribe -- convince me they were not visited


The Dogon Tribe is a group of about 100,000 individuals who live in Burkina Faso and Bali in West Africa. They live around the Bandiagar Cliffs, where most of them dwell in caves. Until about the last century, it is said that these farming people were relatively secluded from outside society. They kept to themselves, continuing their tribal traditions. If their seclusion is a fact, it makes part of their oral history and religion even more mysterious.


Dogon Tribe in masks.

Dogon Tribe in masks. Image: Trinfinity.

The Nommos and Sirius Star​

Dogon religion and oral tribal history suggest that the Dogon Tribe was visited by aliens from the Sirius star group long ago. These aliens were amphibious beings that bestowed their knowledge of their home on the Dogon. The Dogon call these aliens the Nommos. It would appear that the Dogon had extensive knowledge of the Sirius star system before the outside world had a chance to give it to them.

In other words, the Dogon tribe would not only need the knowledge but also a telescope in order for them to have the information they already seemed to possess. Whether they received this information from the Nommos and whether the Nommos truly exist is another mystery altogether.

Sirius B is a star that is invisible to the naked eye. According to anthropologists who visited the Dogon in the 1930′s, the tribe was aware of the existence of this star, which they call “Po Tolo.” Furthermore, they knew every detail of the white dwarf near Sirius B. They knew the length of its orbit in years, the shape of its orbit and the fact that the white dwarf is quite dense.
 
Then there was Jay Rod the Alien recovered after the 1953 UFO crash at Kingman , Arizona

He lived for years at Area 51 and was responsible for giving the US its technological spurt in the 50s as he helped in the reverse engineeering from his recovered craft .

You surely did not imaginme that Americans were responsible themselves for the amazing spurt in sciences at this time . !!!!!!!
 

And yes, it seems to be a 365-day calendar, forcing historians to recalibrate their understanding of the capabilities of ancient people.
It’s well known that many ancient civilizations used the patterns of the sun and the moon to create calendars and to order the passage of time and seasons quite accurately.

Not saying it isn’t impressive that people could do so that long ago, but how exactly is this a groundbreaking discovery?
 
Homosapiens has been on this planet for at least 240k years. We have likely been as advanced as we are now many times before. Natural disasters and our own hubris have done us in several times I am sure
If it happened many times over I think there'd be more archaeological evidence. But I could believe it happened once. It also occurs to me that a small troop of humans actually escaped from Mars during a cataclysm or apocalypse, and influenced life on earth in some way. It may have been so long ago that there would be no trace of their spacecraft, and they also might have hybridized themselves with proto humans or apes in order to keep their genes alive. Much of the wording in the book of Genesis is analogous to such an idea.
 
Homosapiens has been on this planet for at least 240k years. We have likely been as advanced as we are now many times before. Natural disasters and our own hubris have done us in several times I am sure
There would be artifacts
 
There would be artifacts
There are many objects around the world that are anomalous with the current understanding of the timeline of the rise of civilization.
 
Lol, there are.
Most are completely ignorant of prehistoric artifacts that exist, mainly because no one really teaches this stuff in schools, unless maybe you specialize in that particular field.

For example, it was discovered that a lot of ancient ruins that the Romans built, were built on previous prehistoric sites. You can tell where the prehistoric builders created the foundation as the Romans then built overtop of it.

They probably concluded it was a sacred site when they stumbled upon it, and decided to use it as their own.
 
Or we have information given to us .
One of my favourites are the Dogon Tribe -- convince me they were not visited


The Dogon Tribe is a group of about 100,000 individuals who live in Burkina Faso and Bali in West Africa. They live around the Bandiagar Cliffs, where most of them dwell in caves. Until about the last century, it is said that these farming people were relatively secluded from outside society. They kept to themselves, continuing their tribal traditions. If their seclusion is a fact, it makes part of their oral history and religion even more mysterious.


Dogon Tribe in masks.

Dogon Tribe in masks. Image: Trinfinity.

The Nommos and Sirius Star​

Dogon religion and oral tribal history suggest that the Dogon Tribe was visited by aliens from the Sirius star group long ago. These aliens were amphibious beings that bestowed their knowledge of their home on the Dogon. The Dogon call these aliens the Nommos. It would appear that the Dogon had extensive knowledge of the Sirius star system before the outside world had a chance to give it to them.

In other words, the Dogon tribe would not only need the knowledge but also a telescope in order for them to have the information they already seemed to possess. Whether they received this information from the Nommos and whether the Nommos truly exist is another mystery altogether.

Sirius B is a star that is invisible to the naked eye. According to anthropologists who visited the Dogon in the 1930′s, the tribe was aware of the existence of this star, which they call “Po Tolo.” Furthermore, they knew every detail of the white dwarf near Sirius B. They knew the length of its orbit in years, the shape of its orbit and the fact that the white dwarf is quite dense.
There are lots of theories out there for trying to explain why the ancients were so far advanced as they were. In fact, were they more advanced that we are today in some respects?
 
And yes, it seems to be a 365-day calendar, forcing historians to recalibrate their understanding of the capabilities of ancient people.

Well, the 365 day bit does not really surprise me. 12,000 years ago, a day was still a day, 24 hours long (roughly), and the obvious unit of time decided by the rising of the sun (really, the rotation of the Earth, but they didn't know that yet), and it would have still taken 365 days to complete a year (again, roughly), for the position of the sun to return to both the same azimuth on the horizon it rose, or if you like, for the sun to return to the same house in the zodiac (its place among the stars), so, the 365 day thing is quite understandable and predictable and expected as well as both a day and a year were pre-determined by the movements of the Earth separate from anything imagined by man, so merely a matter of observation.

Where their calendar no doubt goes astray from ours is the number of days in a week (if there was a week), the units by which they generally broke up time within a day and year, and what their reference point was for the calendar (obviously, they did not call themselves as living in 12,000 BC or BCE), so they had some other reference to count from or to--- all of this being arbitrary based on man's imagination or needs.
 
Well, from one hubris to another, there is very, very little we know about prehistoric history.

We just have always assumed that the ancients were morons whose knuckles drug to ground when they walked cuz we apparently today are all that!!!

Why? Cuz we have cell phones don't ya know.

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This picture shows what I am talking about. This interpretation regarding the evolution of man shows our arrogance of this notion.

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Just FYI, the original artist of that 'progression' admitted it was largely deliberately drawn to favor the evolutionist claims and not based on any actual fossil records, which of course has no physical evidence of such a progression. They are nothing but the biased opinions of the artist.
 

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