10 Ways Conservatives Can Appeal To Hispanics

[longknife]

Probably one of the best articles I've read on the subject. The suggestions are right on the mark.


Dealing with School Choice, family formation, saving more [most do so by buying gold and silver jewelry], explain how liberal policies have screwed them, and the others are all good and something every conservative candidate should pay close attention to.


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[BluesLegend]

However well intentioned this will not counter the lying left's promises of government hand outs, wealth redistribution, and claims that conservatives are racist and hate their guts parroted by the lying MSM 24/7. Liberals are liars and until minorities come to grips with that I feel any message from conservatives will fall on deaf ears.

 

[Pennywise]

The GOP has allowed the left to create a narrative that is not true, and the GOP has done little to no outreach to minorities. One school of thought is that we shouldn't have to reach out, that the ideals of conservatism are universal. Big mistake.

 

[rdean]

Tank: Homosexuality, welfare, unemployment, dropouts, STD.s. obesity, fatherless children, abortion, rape, murder are not Republican values, so thats why blacks, hispanics and gays are democrats

As long as Republicans spout those views, anyone they are aimed at will never join the GOP. Unless they are masochists.

 

[bendog]

The article was a good try. But note it said "give them a stake" in the country. Sort of hollow when the party's platform is to deport familes of people here legally, and people who have worked here for years but are here illegally. And, it says get them to be savers rather than sending money home. Well, yeah, but if a guy's wife and kids are in Mexico ....

 

[Pennywise]

The article was a good try. But note it said "give them a stake" in the country. Sort of hollow when the party's platform is to deport familes of people here legally, and people who have worked here for years but are here illegally. And, it says get them to be savers rather than sending money home. Well, yeah, but if a guy's wife and kids are in Mexico ....

Garbage. Your entire post is a perpetuation of lies.

 

[bendog]

The article was a good try. But note it said "give them a stake" in the country. Sort of hollow when the party's platform is to deport familes of people here legally, and people who have worked here for years but are here illegally. And, it says get them to be savers rather than sending money home. Well, yeah, but if a guy's wife and kids are in Mexico ....

Garbage. Your entire post is a perpetuation of lies.

refute them then.

 

[Pennywise]

The article was a good try. But note it said "give them a stake" in the country. Sort of hollow when the party's platform is to deport familes of people here legally, and people who have worked here for years but are here illegally. And, it says get them to be savers rather than sending money home. Well, yeah, but if a guy's wife and kids are in Mexico ....

Garbage. Your entire post is a perpetuation of lies.

refute them then.

Conservatives don't want to break up families, we want the fucking border closed, now, before anything else is discussed.

 

[Moonglow]

let's face it, the hostility from the right has doomed them to failure...

 

[bendog]

The article was a good try. But note it said "give them a stake" in the country. Sort of hollow when the party's platform is to deport familes of people here legally, and people who have worked here for years but are here illegally. And, it says get them to be savers rather than sending money home. Well, yeah, but if a guy's wife and kids are in Mexico ....

Garbage. Your entire post is a perpetuation of lies.

refute them then.

Conservatives don't want to break up families, we want the fucking border closed, now, before anything else is discussed.

Fine, but that means you don't want people who have been working here to have a stake in the country, and you don't want to keep families of illegal aliens together until you "seal the fucking border."

Good luck selling that in 16.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

The article was a good try. But note it said "give them a stake" in the country. Sort of hollow when the party's platform is to deport familes of people here legally, and people who have worked here for years but are here illegally. And, it says get them to be savers rather than sending money home. Well, yeah, but if a guy's wife and kids are in Mexico ....

Garbage. Your entire post is a perpetuation of lies.

refute them then.

Conservatives don't want to break up families, we want the fucking border closed, now, before anything else is discussed.

Which border?

The ones that are wide open with constant threats of terrorists coming through?

Or the southern one that's patrolled by more Border Patrol than ever before?

I wish RWs would get some facts behind them before spewing their racist hate. But that ain't gonna happen. Instead, they will lie about how many illegals have been deported by President Obama while they complain about the cost of their produce.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

let's face it, the hostility from the right has doomed them to failure...

Aw yes - the silver lining.

 

[Vigilante]

Tank: Homosexuality, welfare, unemployment, dropouts, STD.s. obesity, fatherless children, abortion, rape, murder are not Republican values, so thats why blacks, hispanics and gays are democrats

As long as Republicans spout those views, anyone they are aimed at will never join the GOP. Unless they are masochists.

Yes, all the moral and ethical values of a fucking cockroach, The LEFT has made those things you mentioned, that up until rather recently were ABORANT to the American way of life, now main stream..... Corrupt the system, as the Romans allowed, and you'll get the same results as history repeats itself!

 

[Vigilante]

The article was a good try. But note it said "give them a stake" in the country. Sort of hollow when the party's platform is to deport familes of people here legally, and people who have worked here for years but are here illegally. And, it says get them to be savers rather than sending money home. Well, yeah, but if a guy's wife and kids are in Mexico ....

Garbage. Your entire post is a perpetuation of lies.

refute them then.

Conservatives don't want to break up families, we want the fucking border closed, now, before anything else is discussed.

Which border?

The ones that are wide open with constant threats of terrorists coming through?

Or the southern one that's patrolled by more Border Patrol than ever before?

I wish RWs would get some facts behind them before spewing their racist hate. But that ain't gonna happen. Instead, they will lie about how many illegals have been deported by President Obama while they complain about the cost of their produce.

Fucking Nuttley to the rescues again.... what a fucking idiot!....SIGNS all over the Southern border!

 

[Rikurzhen]

The article was a good try. But note it said "give them a stake" in the country. Sort of hollow when the party's platform is to deport familes of people here legally, and people who have worked here for years but are here illegally. And, it says get them to be savers rather than sending money home. Well, yeah, but if a guy's wife and kids are in Mexico ....

Someone needs to break the back on the idea that one must give greater loyalty to a co-ethnic than to a fellow citizen. Breaking the back of this odious idea, unfortunately, comes at a cost for those who wish to champion the notion that one should owe one's highest loyalty to America rather than to foreigners.

 

[bendog]

The article was a good try. But note it said "give them a stake" in the country. Sort of hollow when the party's platform is to deport familes of people here legally, and people who have worked here for years but are here illegally. And, it says get them to be savers rather than sending money home. Well, yeah, but if a guy's wife and kids are in Mexico ....

Someone needs to break the back on the idea that one must give greater loyalty to a co-ethnic than to a fellow citizen. Breaking the back of this odious idea, unfortunately, comes at a cost for those who wish to champion the notion that one should owe one's highest loyalty to America rather than to foreigners.

Well, when the laws were intentionally drawn BY BOTH PARTIES so as to encourage illegal immigration and cheap labor, that argument isn't going to go anywhere. It's "come on in cheap Mexican, and now listen here bud it's "mericans first." Again, lots of luck in 16 with that one. And Jeb didn't do too well on the stump today.

But, again, I think the article was ... something. If the gop could get over the sly, and racist, attempts to hide the fact that apparently a minority in the House hold the speaker hostage to getting a real deal that addressed "the border" and legalizing workers we really need, the party could appeal to hispanics, imo. There are gopers, not necessarily in the TPM, and often at the state level, who want to fund public schools esp if there is some magnet or charter concept to let parents get their kids into better schools. The cost of a four year university, even a public one, is beyond most lower income workers. But, many gopers support community colleges and even efforts to bring education online.

I don't think social issues or promoting "assimilation" policies says much. It's sort of insulting to say one party or another is more likely to keep my kid's marriage together. I doubt anyone other than a blind partisan sees much difference. I don't think there's any great desire outside the left elite to continue bilingual education ... outside the reality that you have to educate a kid in a language he understands. Teach em English, but don't forget math.

The gop pretty much shot itself in the foot not providing an alternative to Obamacare. Similarly, suggesting opposing privatizing social security is akin willfully embracing govt dependence is ... empty rhetoric that will not win elections.

Bottom line, the gop has to sell itself as the party of entry into the middle class and not the tool of the 1%. The article is correct to the extent it is saying Hispanics are no different from whites.

 

[Vigilante]

The article was a good try. But note it said "give them a stake" in the country. Sort of hollow when the party's platform is to deport familes of people here legally, and people who have worked here for years but are here illegally. And, it says get them to be savers rather than sending money home. Well, yeah, but if a guy's wife and kids are in Mexico ....

Someone needs to break the back on the idea that one must give greater loyalty to a co-ethnic than to a fellow citizen. Breaking the back of this odious idea, unfortunately, comes at a cost for those who wish to champion the notion that one should owe one's highest loyalty to America rather than to foreigners.

Well, when the laws were intentionally drawn BY BOTH PARTIES so as to encourage illegal immigration and cheap labor, that argument isn't going to go anywhere. It's "come on in cheap Mexican, and now listen here bud it's "mericans first." Again, lots of luck in 16 with that one. And Jeb didn't do too well on the stump today.

But, again, I think the article was ... something. If the gop could get over the sly, and racist, attempts to hide the fact that apparently a minority in the House hold the speaker hostage to getting a real deal that addressed "the border" and legalizing workers we really need, the party could appeal to hispanics, imo. There are gopers, not necessarily in the TPM, and often at the state level, who want to fund public schools esp if there is some magnet or charter concept to let parents get their kids into better schools. The cost of a four year university, even a public one, is beyond most lower income workers. But, many gopers support community colleges and even efforts to bring education online.

I don't think social issues or promoting "assimilation" policies says much. It's sort of insulting to say one party or another is more likely to keep my kid's marriage together. I doubt anyone other than a blind partisan sees much difference. I don't think there's any great desire outside the left elite to continue bilingual education ... outside the reality that you have to educate a kid in a language he understands. Teach em English, but don't forget math.

The gop pretty much shot itself in the foot not providing an alternative to Obamacare. Similarly, suggesting opposing privatizing social security is akin willfully embracing govt dependence is ... empty rhetoric that will not win elections.

Bottom line, the gop has to sell itself as the party of entry into the middle class and not the tool of the 1%. The article is correct to the extent it is saying Hispanics are no different from whites.

You just don't know where to look, but the Repubicks did a PISS POOR JOB of selling it to the nation!

Commentary Ryan Offers Appealing Alternative To ObamaCare The Pelican Post

 

[Rikurzhen]

. . . the fact that apparently a minority in the House hold the speaker hostage to getting a real deal that addressed "the border" and legalizing workers we really need, the party could appeal to hispanics, imo.

We don't need those workers. We need workers who are willing to work for less than what American citizens are willing to work for. Big difference. You'd have to be daft to claim that America needs more workers when we have record levels of working age people out of the workforce.

The Republican Party will NEVER win a majority of the Hispanic vote. NEVER. The Republicans cannot out-Democrat the Democrats in terms of offering racial spoils and if they tried to go the route of implementing racist policies as do the Democrats, they'd face revolt from their white voting base who believe in race-netural policies. That move would likely set up a 3rd party and give permanent advantage to Democrats. To keep their voting base intact Republicans can't deviate from their anti-racist policies.

This gives racist Democrats a structural advantage because they can offer race-based policies which appeal to Hispanics.

On the family values front, Republicans also lose because the family values of Hispanic closely mirror that of blacks - high illegitimacy rates, high poverty, high crime, etc.

Bottom line, the gop has to sell itself as the party of entry into the middle class and not the tool of the 1%.

I agree. The voting dynamics pretty much illustrate that the Democrats are the party of the TOP & BOTTOM against the MIDDLE. The Republicans don'[t offer much that is attractive to the BOTTOM and what they offer to the TOP alienates the MIDDLE, so for Republicans the choice between TOP and MIDDLE is where the battle is. The MIDDLE is theirs, uncontested, if they want it.

The article is correct to the extent it is saying Hispanics are no different from whites.

The article is wrong. Hispanics more closely mirror blacks than whites. Republicans can certainly capture some of the Hispanic vote, no question about that, they can keep chipping away at the margins, but they'll never get a majority. This being the case it's foolhardy for Republicans to work to increase the Hispanic population - there is no political upside to granting Democrats 7 new voters for every 3 that the Republicans capture.