Zero emission Internal Combustion Engine

[Mikeoxenormous]

Once again we see foreign car companies besting the US

Toyota is planning the production of internal combustion engines that run on liquid ammonia. Ammonia consists of 1 nitrogen atom and 3 hydrogen atoms and are two of the most abundant elements on the planet.

Now ammonia contains no carbon atoms but has a high energy density so there is zero CO2 created in combustion

So when you start to run low on fuel, you step up to the hole insert Johnson and refill after the 20oz coffee?

 

[Blues Man]

Again?

Tell me why it's impossible and don't forget to include all you engineering knowledge and links to all referneces.

 

[Blues Man]

Gasoline is no where near as caustic as ammonia.
Many industrial sites and buildings are painted with ammonia as one of the vehicles in the paint.(to help it dry quickly) There's a reason why painters are usually drunks.
But the amount of ammonia is low in this application. The amount needed for vehicles is insane concentrations. Extremely dangerous stuff. Full hazmat suits are needed.

And yet it is being done.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Tell me why it's impossible and don't forget to include all you engineering knowledge and links to all referneces.

References, Mr. BigStuff? Who do you think you are?

 

[Blues Man]

References, Mr. BigStuff? Who do you think you are?

Hey you're the one claiming to be an expert in engineering not me so prove it.

 

[Grumblenuts]

Hey you're the one claiming to be an expert in engineering not me so prove it.

Again?

 

[fncceo]

If a thing sounds too good to be true...

Ammonia consists of three Hydrogen atoms bonded to a single Nitrogen atom (NH3) and, as such, could be a very viable fuel.

Problems with Ammonia as a fuel in cars is ... it takes much more heat to ignite than gasoline. Also, a curious thing happens when ammonia is oxidized, essential for burning, the process of oxidation reduces the energy output of the combustion by greater than 30%.

Also, burning Ammonia produces NOx (Nitric Oxide and Nitrogen Dioxide) key components in creating acid rain.

Add to that, Ammonia in pure form is highly corrosive to human skin and automobile parts.

So, there would a a LOT of problems to overcome.

 

[luiza]

No conspiracy, just hype. It's obviously a long way from ready for prime time yet.. despite your title and OP.

Yet there are others who will present evidence and testimony that is 100% for these "secrets" being a working part of the Black OPs shadow government theatre for at least the last sixty years .
I have always found the Garry McKinnon case absorbing and persuasive unless you argue he is/was just another control opposition insert .Or disinformation agent , if you prefer , tied to the intelligence agencies and actually not wanted by them for silencing .

 

[JohnDB]

Ammonia consists of three Hydrogen atoms bonded to a single Nitrogen atom (NH3) and, as such, could be a very viable fuel.

Problems with Ammonia as a fuel in cars is ... it takes much more heat to ignite than gasoline. Also, a curious thing happens when ammonia is oxidized, essential for burning, the process of oxidation reduces the energy output of the combustion by greater than 30%.

Also, burning Ammonia produces NOx (Nitric Oxide and Nitrogen Dioxide) key components in creating acid rain.

Add to that, Ammonia in pure form is highly corrosive to human skin and automobile parts.

So, there would a a LOT of problems to overcome.

Trying to burn ammonia as a fuel also means a much lower RPM rate because ammonia burns slower than gasoline or diesel. 1500 rpm is a nothing in a gasoline engine....1500 rpm in an ammonia vehicle would be "burning it up".

 

[Nobody911]

Once again we see foreign car companies besting the US

Toyota is planning the production of internal combustion engines that run on liquid ammonia. Ammonia consists of 1 nitrogen atom and 3 hydrogen atoms and are two of the most abundant elements on the planet.

Now ammonia contains no carbon atoms but has a high energy density so there is zero CO2 created in combustion

The use of liquid ammonia as fuel can be a potential solution to reduce greenhouse gas emissions, but it is not without challenges and considerations. While ammonia itself does not produce carbon emissions when burned, the production of ammonia often relies on fossil fuels, which can result in greenhouse effects. The process of producing ammonia typically involves the use of natural gas and the release of carbon dioxide.

To make ammonia a sustainable and low-carbon fuel option, efforts are being made to produce ammonia using renewable energy sources, such as wind or solar power, instead of fossil fuels. This would significantly reduce the carbon footprint associated with ammonia production.

However, there are other factors to consider when evaluating ammonia as a fuel. Ammonia is a toxic and caustic substance, and proper handling and safety measures are necessary to prevent accidents and minimize environmental impacts. Additionally, the infrastructure for ammonia storage, transportation, and distribution would need to be developed and expanded to support its widespread use as a fuel.

Overall, while liquid ammonia has the potential to be a low-carbon fuel option, further research, development, and infrastructure investments are needed to fully assess its viability and address the associated challenges. It is important to consider a range of solutions and technologies to effectively address greenhouse gas emissions and mitigate climate change.

Source :

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[Oddball]

Once again we see foreign car companies besting the US

Toyota is planning the production of internal combustion engines that run on liquid ammonia. Ammonia consists of 1 nitrogen atom and 3 hydrogen atoms and are two of the most abundant elements on the planet.

Now ammonia contains no carbon atoms but has a high energy density so there is zero CO2 created in combustion

ICE = freedom.

The powers that be™ want us in electric golf carts, because they can shut off our fuel supply at will.

 

[justoffal]

That CO[sub]2[/sub] is very beneficial to our environment.

Don't worry nothing they will do will affect the amount of CO2 being generated in our atmosphere because we're not doing it.

 

[justoffal]

That CO[sub]2[/sub] is very beneficial to our environment.

The foliage in greenry this year is record-breaking. The gardens are busting out with abundance. Maybe that's what they're afraid of???... that they will no longer be food shortages.