Zelensky is no Churchill

[Quasar44]

WinterBorn
Oh no
Meet him half way
Russian army has been terrible and P just wants a few tiny chucks to say it was worth it

 

[Devils_Advocate]

Z can save Ukraine but he is a sanctimonious megalomaniac

Holy shit!

And Pootin is better in your deluded mind!

 

[Devils_Advocate]

WinterBorn
Oh no
Meet him half way
Russian army has been terrible and P just wants a few tiny chucks to say it was worth it

No, Pootin want the Ukraine and nothing less!

 

[Quasar44]

WinterBorn
So risk millions dead ??

a wise man ( Like me ) would end the war

 

[WinterBorn]

Z can save Ukraine but he is a sanctimonious megalomaniac

And how would he save Ukraine?

 

[Quasar44]

P is a demon.

 

[WinterBorn]

Bruce_Almighty

hope ?? You mean suicide ??
He thinks he is in a play or something

A wiser man ( like me ) clearly would meet P demands or at least talk to him

He thinks he is Indian Jones or Luke Skywalker

Your version of wisdom involves surrendering to the aggressor who invaded your country. That never works out except for the aggressor.

 

[Quasar44]

WinterBorn
P gave him good terms
1) recognize the Crimea ( been Russian forever )
2) release 2 break away areas
3) don’t join nato

 

[WinterBorn]

P is a demon.

And you think negotiating with him and surrendering is the answer? Thank goodness you have no authority.

 

[Quasar44]

P knows his army is stuck in the mud and wants an exit

 

[Quasar44]

Yes !
it’s not a surrender
It’s a logical beneficial proposal

 

[Devils_Advocate]

WinterBorn
So risk millions dead ??

a wise man ( Like me ) would end the war

So you prefer a tyrant to rule you than die fighting for your freedom or at least the illusion of freedom?

 

[WinterBorn]

WinterBorn
P gave him good terms
1) recognize the Crimea ( been Russian forever )
2) release 2 break away areas
3) don’t join nato

Recognizing Crimea is iffy.

Letting parts of Ukraine leave is not.

If the Ukraine wants to join NATO it is no business of Putin's.

 

[Devils_Advocate]

P knows his army is stuck in the mud and wants an exit

If they wanted an exit they can leave but they keep moving forward, so stop the nonsense…

 

[Quasar44]

Bruce_Almighty
P won’t rule U .you Chicago thug

 

[WinterBorn]

Yes !
it’s not a surrender
It’s a logical beneficial proposal

No, it is not. Itis only a beneficial proposal to Russia.

 

[WinterBorn]

Bruce_Almighty
P won’t rule U .you Chicago thug

It doesn't look like he will rule Ukraine either.

 

[Quasar44]

Crimea was Russian forever
I don’t know why Russia gave it to U in the 50s

 

[Quasar44]

You both are very myopic

 

[WinterBorn]

P knows his army is stuck in the mud and wants an exit

Then he can pull his forces out and stop this madness.