You went full Atlas Shrugged. Never go full Atlas Shrugged.

[dblack]

That you must be lamenting losing badly at, given the factual history of the SCOTUS and the powers the federal government has.

Absolutely I'm lamenting that. You've have had a lot of success. Congrats. Now fuck off and die.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Absolutely I'm lamenting that. You've have had a lot of success. Congrats. Now fuck off die.

Not me. I don't do any of it. Grow up.

 

[dblack]

You apparently don't know even know what socialism is.

So I believe you.

Of course not. The definition of socialism is an eternal mystery. Only socialists truly understand.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Of course not. The definition of socialism is an eternal mystery. Only socialists truly understand.

And people who read.

 

[dblack]

Not me. I don't do any of it. Grow up.

Pretty much every time a statist with a stick up their ass says "grow up", they really mean "bend over".

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Pretty much every time a statist with a stick up his ass says "grow up", the really mean "bend over".

Oh my, someone spent too much time in the bumper sticker aisle at the truck stop today.

 

[dblack]

Oh my, someone spent too much time in the bumper sticker aisle at the truck stop today.

Sure man. Take your shell games elsewhere. I'm not buying.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

If you had read your own link, you would see the Biden administration is talking about drugs which were developed with funds from taxpayers.

Maybe I should have been more specific. If the government wants the fruit to basically be public domain, they should do the R&D themselves--fully and exclusively. But to seize binding patents simply because grant money was given to a private business is not an acceptable rationale. The government issues grants for all kinds of things to private businesses and individuals. If a grant justifies seizing patents, then it can justify seizing anything else. The PPP loans were turned into grants up being forgiven. Doesn't mean the government should seize a company's employees.

 

[Curried Goats]

Maybe I should have been more specific. If the government wants the fruit to basically be public domain, they should do the R&D themselves--fully and exclusively. But to seize binding patents simply because grant money was given to a private business is not an acceptable rationale. The government issues grants for all kinds of things to private businesses and individuals. If a grant justifies seizing patents, then it can justify seizing anything else. The PPP loans were turned into grants up being forgiven. Doesn't mean the government should seize a company's employees.

What is a binding patent beyond something the government itself issues and enforces? There is a middle ground between government backed monopoly and nationalized industries.

 

[d0gbreath]

You're an idiot. A patent is a business using the force of law to prevent competition. It's the philosophy of scarcity. As I said, try reading a libertarian philosopher rather than a bad fiction writer.

It appears that your libertarian author buddy is a much better philosopher, than an inventor.

 

[Curried Goats]

It appears that your libertarian author buddy is a much better philosopher, than an inventor.

That's because he was an economic philosopher and a writer.... He wasn't an inventor so why should expect him to be much of one?

 

[Stormy Daniels]

What is a binding patent beyond something the government itself issues and enforces

Once again, a patent is a matter of PRIVATE LAW. The government doesn't enforce it, private entities do by suing anyone who infringes on their rights.

 

[d0gbreath]

That's because he was an economic philosopher and a writer.... He wasn't an inventor so why should expect him to be much of one?

I wasn't expecting anything. It's just that he'd be if favor of patents if he was.
I realize that this thread is for demonizing big pharma, which is a good thing, but there are plenty of little guys in their garages, that use patents to keep from being ripped off.

 

[Curried Goats]

Once again, a patent is a matter of PRIVATE LAW.

And? All law is force. If you we take the libertarian axiom that the only justifiable force is force used in self defense how do you justify using force to enforce your patent?

The government doesn't enforce it, private entities do by suing anyone who infringes on their rights.

And who arbitrates these case and ensures judgment is followed?

 

[Curried Goats]

I wasn't expecting anything. It's just that he'd be if favor of patents if he was.

What you're describing is self interest. I understand that inventors have a selfish interest in denying anyone the ability to reproduce their inventions.

I realize that this thread is for demonizing big pharma, which is a good thing, but there are plenty of little guys in their garages, that use patents to keep from being ripped off.

Ripped off how?

 

[d0gbreath]

What you're describing is self interest. I understand that inventors have a selfish interest in denying anyone the ability to reproduce their inventions.

Ripped off how?

If you design something wonderful, that the whole world wants, ah, never mind. That's laughable in it's self.

 

[Curried Goats]

If you design something wonderful, that the whole world wants, ah, never mind. That's laughable in it's self.

Your argument? Have a little more confidence in it than that my guy...

 

[d0gbreath]

Your argument? Have a little more confidence in it than that my guy...

You called inventors "selfish" for wanting to reap the benefits of their hard work.

 

[Curried Goats]

You called inventors "selfish" for wanting to reap the benefits of their hard work.

That wasn't moral condemnation. Call it self interest if that terminology is more palpable to you to describe the natural priority people place over their wants and needs before anyone else's.

 

[d0gbreath]

That wasn't moral condemnation. Call it self interest if that terminology is more palpable to you to describe the natural priority people place over their wants and needs before anyone else's.

Most people do that.

George Washington Carver discovered 300 uses for the peanut, then gave them to the world.