Would you support Jeb Bush for president in 2016?

[Melvin01]

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The only people who would make bets on the 2014 elections in March 2013 are those who are so deluded by their partisan ideology that they're simply no longer thinking clearly.

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LOL......kinda reminded me of Dick Morris and Karl Rove

 

[AVG-JOE]

Sorry.................but it's not HuffPo that is going to turn the tide against the GOP.

It's gonna be the things they say themselves.

Do you really think that Boehner is a true leader? He can't even control his own party.

I simply HATE the way Boehner keeps saying that the revenue discussion is over.

That discussion must remain ongoing until we have taxes that are perceived as fair and simple by the majority.

One Rate / One Deduction.​

 

[Esmeralda]

Jeb could name GW as vice-prez and we could have a tag team of stupid.

 

[AVG-JOE]

I wouldn't be that sure.

first, changing the party in the WH every 8 years has been kind of the norm since 1952. The exceptions were Carter only getting one term and Reagan/Bush getting three.

Second, Hillary has strong qualifications, but on a personal level, she rubs people the wrong way. As advanced as we Americans like to think we are, we can't have a woman politician without ripping on her, and other women are often the worst offenders.

Third, it will really depend on the economy. If we have another downturn, it is going to help the GOP.

Things change. There was no internet from '52 to Bush / Gore.


Read my lips. The GOP will NEVER again receive my vote until they abandon complete the bullshit theory of trickle-down economics.

Your ignorance of trickle down is profound.

It lead to the longest and greatest growth this or any other modern country ever had.

The whole of Reaganomics is more than anything anyone else ever did.

Your use of personal insults in debate speaks volumes about the content that follows. You have my pity.

The expansion of the 90's occurred when Regan created a somewhat fair tax structure quite by accident and Clinton and Tip were forced by PAYGO to maintain it.

Then the wheels fell off when PAYGO expired in 2003 and Bush II was able to use the well-sold theory of Trickle-Down to skew the tax code with cuts and floorboard the spending with two wars for his defense buddies and Medicare-D for his big pharma buddies.

Trickle-down is economics based on disguised favoritism and it disgusts me. Combine that with congress having the power to customize taxes through loop-holes and deductions and you get an environment where corruption is sure to flourish.


What we need is a fair and simple tax code and a return to PAYGO

 

[Melvin01]

Sorry.................but it's not HuffPo that is going to turn the tide against the GOP.

It's gonna be the things they say themselves.

Do you really think that Boehner is a true leader? He can't even control his own party.

I simply HATE the way Boehner keeps saying that the revenue discussion is over.

That discussion must remain ongoing until we have taxes that are perceived as fair and simple by the majority.

One Rate / One Deduction.​

You know what they want......some kind of flat tax. That way their part will be unloaded to a level even lower than now which is much lower than what it used to be when we paid our debts. If they can get away with some kind of flat 15%-20% flat tax or a consumption tax their dream will have been realized. Right now a poor bastard making $46,000 a year for his family.....which is the average for my state which has 9 1/2 million citizens, goes to buy a gallon of gas and pays $0.30 or $0.40 a gallon gas tax, a sales tax, a property tax, payroll taxes etc. If they are ever successful in their attempts a working class family will pay essentially half of what they earn in taxes.

In taxable year 2011 Romney paid $2,000,000 of his $14,000,000 earnings in federal tax.....14%. These bastards cannot be trusted. The only thing they want to do is crap on those who are unable to do anything about it. Any day that an important bill in being argued in Washington there are about 3,000 high paid lobbyists who ramble up and down the capitol building halls like they own it wearing imported Italian shoes and $2500 suits. Nobody speaks up for common people any longer except the Democrats and sometimes I'm not too sure about them.

 

[AVG-JOE]

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The only people who would make bets on the 2014 elections in March 2013 are those who are so deluded by their partisan ideology that they're simply no longer thinking clearly.

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And yet, in this moment, with the Sunday talk shows droning in the background, see the Monkeys fondling their crystal balls on t.v. and the internet!

 

[jon_berzerk]

I expect Jeb will likely be the GOP front-runner in 2016. Daddy Bush desperately wants Jeb in the White House - and powerful Bush friends will be pushing that agenda. Personally, I can't imagine that American voters would be willing to suffer through another Bush in the White House. However, stranger things have happened...

the way things are going

that is who we will end up with

--LOL

 

[Melvin01]

I expect Jeb will likely be the GOP front-runner in 2016. Daddy Bush desperately wants Jeb in the White House - and powerful Bush friends will be pushing that agenda. Personally, I can't imagine that American voters would be willing to suffer through another Bush in the White House. However, stranger things have happened...

the way things are going

that is who we will end up with

--LOL

Oh....I hope they run his ass. Hillary will mop the floor with his remains.

 

[jon_berzerk]

I expect Jeb will likely be the GOP front-runner in 2016. Daddy Bush desperately wants Jeb in the White House - and powerful Bush friends will be pushing that agenda. Personally, I can't imagine that American voters would be willing to suffer through another Bush in the White House. However, stranger things have happened...

the way things are going

that is who we will end up with

--LOL

Oh....I hope they run his ass. Hillary will mop the floor with his remains.

i wouldnt be so sure about that

since she has that cartoonish evil villain look about her

with those creepy glasses she is sporting

--LOL

 

[freedombecki]

wahh, patriotic americans only include hypocritical religious dimwits who want things their way, instead of wanting freedom, justice, democracy, and the values of which America were founded and based on.

Religious freedom? Only if it's for christianity.
If you got another religion or simply have no beliefs, you are violating their "religious rights" for just existing.


What a hack.

You can't deny that socialist liberals are trying to make the US a muslim nation with sharia laws. Their war on Christians has been taking away our First amendment rights to freedom of religion for decades.

Watch me.

The only thing more repugnant to this average liberal than the Conservative Judeo-Christian Agenda is the Conservative Muslim Agenda.

At this point in our evolution the free secularists have just about slapped down the J-C agenda, and us Monkeys are blessed by some Deity somewhere that the Muslims are bogged down with Shiite on Sunni violence and the inevitable reciprocation.

The Internet is a game changer and you Monkeys might just make it to the stars yet.

Education, education, education.

Yep. Christian education is needed.

 

[Melvin01]

the way things are going

that is who we will end up with

--LOL

Oh....I hope they run his ass. Hillary will mop the floor with his remains.

i wouldnt be so sure about that

since she has that cartoonish evil villain look about her

with those creepy glasses she is sporting

--LOL

Are you Dick Morris or possibly Karl Rove............I know, Sean Hannity

 

[jon_berzerk]

Oh....I hope they run his ass. Hillary will mop the floor with his remains.

i wouldnt be so sure about that

since she has that cartoonish evil villain look about her

with those creepy glasses she is sporting

--LOL

Are you Dick Morris or possibly Karl Rove............I know, Sean Hannity

thanks

--LOL

 

[JoeB131]

If Jeb Bush runs against pretty much any Democratic candidate, it will be a win for the Democrats, hands down.

I wouldn't be that sure.

first, changing the party in the WH every 8 years has been kind of the norm since 1952. The exceptions were Carter only getting one term and Reagan/Bush getting three.

Second, Hillary has strong qualifications, but on a personal level, she rubs people the wrong way. As advanced as we Americans like to think we are, we can't have a woman politician without ripping on her, and other women are often the worst offenders.

Third, it will really depend on the economy. If we have another downturn, it is going to help the GOP.

Things change. There was no internet from '52 to Bush / Gore.


Read my lips. The GOP will NEVER again receive my vote until they abandon complete the bullshit theory of trickle-down economics.

Nor will they have mine, but that wasn't my point.

I think the majority of people who aren't going to spend large amounts of time on USMB discussing theory and don't know "Supply Side" from "Keynes", are just going to vote their gut.

In a Jeb vs. Hillary matchup, Jeb is more likable and affable.

Hillary's popularity has gone up because she was in a position where she wasn't making shrill political speeches, for the most part. The untold part of 2008 was that she went in with a huge advantage over Obama and slowly squandered it. She was decisively leading after Super Tuesday and had no plan or organization after that.

 

[California Girl]

I expect that another Bush getting the nomination is what is needed for the right to see the folly of money in politics.

Though I thought the same thing about Romney...
A Self-Inflicted Wound - Broowaha

As long as the corporations are paying them via the lobbyists, the right will never see the wounds.

Does a slave complain very loudly if they're being paid well?

And yet you seem to have no issue with the lobbyists in the Obama Admin. Curious. Or are you still buying the bullshit of 'no lobbyists in my administration' joke? He started handing out jobs for the boys within 2 weeks of taking office. Don't rant about one side if your side is doing the same shit. It makes you look stupid.

Oh wait.

 

[California Girl]

Sorry.................but it's not HuffPo that is going to turn the tide against the GOP.

It's gonna be the things they say themselves.

Do you really think that Boehner is a true leader? He can't even control his own party.

I simply HATE the way Boehner keeps saying that the revenue discussion is over.

That discussion must remain ongoing until we have taxes that are perceived as fair and simple by the majority.

One Rate / One Deduction.​

You know what they want......some kind of flat tax. That way their part will be unloaded to a level even lower than now which is much lower than what it used to be when we paid our debts. If they can get away with some kind of flat 15%-20% flat tax or a consumption tax their dream will have been realized. Right now a poor bastard making $46,000 a year for his family.....which is the average for my state which has 9 1/2 million citizens, goes to buy a gallon of gas and pays $0.30 or $0.40 a gallon gas tax, a sales tax, a property tax, payroll taxes etc. If they are ever successful in their attempts a working class family will pay essentially half of what they earn in taxes.

In taxable year 2011 Romney paid $2,000,000 of his $14,000,000 earnings in federal tax.....14%. These bastards cannot be trusted. The only thing they want to do is crap on those who are unable to do anything about it. Any day that an important bill in being argued in Washington there are about 3,000 high paid lobbyists who ramble up and down the capitol building halls like they own it wearing imported Italian shoes and $2500 suits. Nobody speaks up for common people any longer except the Democrats and sometimes I'm not too sure about them.

Are you claiming Romney cheated on his taxes or are you just butt hurt because he didn't pay more than he was legally obliged to? (In fact - and it is a fact - he did pay more than he was legally obliged to but never let reality get in the way of ranting..

Idiot.

 

[ima]

I simply HATE the way Boehner keeps saying that the revenue discussion is over.

That discussion must remain ongoing until we have taxes that are perceived as fair and simple by the majority.

One Rate / One Deduction.​

You know what they want......some kind of flat tax. That way their part will be unloaded to a level even lower than now which is much lower than what it used to be when we paid our debts. If they can get away with some kind of flat 15%-20% flat tax or a consumption tax their dream will have been realized. Right now a poor bastard making $46,000 a year for his family.....which is the average for my state which has 9 1/2 million citizens, goes to buy a gallon of gas and pays $0.30 or $0.40 a gallon gas tax, a sales tax, a property tax, payroll taxes etc. If they are ever successful in their attempts a working class family will pay essentially half of what they earn in taxes.

In taxable year 2011 Romney paid $2,000,000 of his $14,000,000 earnings in federal tax.....14%. These bastards cannot be trusted. The only thing they want to do is crap on those who are unable to do anything about it. Any day that an important bill in being argued in Washington there are about 3,000 high paid lobbyists who ramble up and down the capitol building halls like they own it wearing imported Italian shoes and $2500 suits. Nobody speaks up for common people any longer except the Democrats and sometimes I'm not too sure about them.

Are you claiming Romney cheated on his taxes or are you just butt hurt because he didn't pay more than he was legally obliged to? (In fact - and it is a fact - he did pay more than he was legally obliged to but never let reality get in the way of ranting..

Idiot.

Romney is a mor(m)on. "Nuff said. Time for the GOP to find a real candidate. Jeb could run against a banana and lose.

 

[AVG-JOE]

I wouldn't be that sure.

first, changing the party in the WH every 8 years has been kind of the norm since 1952. The exceptions were Carter only getting one term and Reagan/Bush getting three.

Second, Hillary has strong qualifications, but on a personal level, she rubs people the wrong way. As advanced as we Americans like to think we are, we can't have a woman politician without ripping on her, and other women are often the worst offenders.

Third, it will really depend on the economy. If we have another downturn, it is going to help the GOP.

Things change. There was no internet from '52 to Bush / Gore.


Read my lips. The GOP will NEVER again receive my vote until they abandon complete the bullshit theory of trickle-down economics.

Nor will they have mine, but that wasn't my point.

I think the majority of people who aren't going to spend large amounts of time on USMB discussing theory and don't know "Supply Side" from "Keynes", are just going to vote their gut.

In a Jeb vs. Hillary matchup, Jeb is more likable and affable.

Hillary's popularity has gone up because she was in a position where she wasn't making shrill political speeches, for the most part. The untold part of 2008 was that she went in with a huge advantage over Obama and slowly squandered it. She was decisively leading after Super Tuesday and had no plan or organization after that.

I'm going to hope that the primaries prove to be the demise of both and do so early.

To something fresh!

 

[Lakhota]

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[Melvin01]

I wouldn't be that sure.

first, changing the party in the WH every 8 years has been kind of the norm since 1952. The exceptions were Carter only getting one term and Reagan/Bush getting three.

Second, Hillary has strong qualifications, but on a personal level, she rubs people the wrong way. As advanced as we Americans like to think we are, we can't have a woman politician without ripping on her, and other women are often the worst offenders.

Third, it will really depend on the economy. If we have another downturn, it is going to help the GOP.

Things change. There was no internet from '52 to Bush / Gore.


Read my lips. The GOP will NEVER again receive my vote until they abandon complete the bullshit theory of trickle-down economics.

Nor will they have mine, but that wasn't my point.

I think the majority of people who aren't going to spend large amounts of time on USMB discussing theory and don't know "Supply Side" from "Keynes", are just going to vote their gut.

In a Jeb vs. Hillary matchup, Jeb is more likable and affable.

Hillary's popularity has gone up because she was in a position where she wasn't making shrill political speeches, for the most part. The untold part of 2008 was that she went in with a huge advantage over Obama and slowly squandered it. She was decisively leading after Super Tuesday and had no plan or organization after that.

If for no other reason than to energize those who voted Democrat in five of the last six presidential elections you can bet the question will be asked. "Do You Really Want Another Middle Eastern War Which Is Totally Unnecessary And Costs A Trillion Dollars?" All the Bushes imagine themselves as some kind of modern cowboys. I used to laugh my ass off every time they took a picture of George and his toy chainsaw and that same pine stump there in Crawford. You're talking about a chickenhawk, draft dodger who had to kick a cocaine habit. Jeb is a low down liar who stole an election. "Bring Him On!".........to use the terminology of George himself. One damn thing.....if his daughters had been in uniform there would never have been a "Bring 'Em On"

 

[S.J.]

You're talking about a chickenhawk, draft dodger who had to kick a cocaine habit.

Got some proof of that, or is that just your worthless opinion?