Would You Support A Sheriff Like Joe Arpaio in Your Town?

So its ok for our troops but not for criminals.

Sorry but while our troops may be out in the same heat that these guys are in they are not treated the same way nor do they have the same lifestyle. Not by a longshot.

You're right, the troops aren't treated the same nor do they have the "same lifestyle". I suspect that might be because the troops . . . wait for it . . . AREN'T CRIMINALS.

Neither are a lot of people in tent city. There are people in there who simply cant afford bail. They havent been CONVICTED OF ANYTHING....they are awaiting trial.

If you come here, get pulled over by a sheriff department worker and spend the weekend in tent city. I would love to hear how well you though you were treated.

You did know people in tent city arent convicted of anything, didn't you? Please tell me you knew this. Please.

Spoiled bologna (that he charged them for), that heat, his restraint "chairs" that kill people....doesn't matter, just as long as his fat face in on the tube. Do you know how many people who have died in his custody? Do you know how many law suits he has lost and how much money he has cost this city?
 
Depends on circumstances

There are HARD TIMES THAT DEMAND HARD MEN.

And then too, there are times when such men must be kept at bay.
 

Not a thing here proven that he has done wrong. Until he is found guilty, I want a sheriff just like him here where they cut 1/3 of the deputies and released 50% of the prisoners.

SFC Ollie, I understand how you feel. Cleveland has just incarcerated a long time sherriff here for fraud and various other misdeeds, and there's a rumbling that people awaiting trial or subject to arrest were given preferential treatment if they paid, etc. Believe me, as an older lady living alone, crime scares me shitless and I am not unduly sympathetic to prisoners.

But bear in mind, the people in a county jail are (for the most part) not yet found guilty. I don't have the same anger towards them as I do people in a state prison.....and I tend to agree with Zona. Arapgio seems to me to be way to interested in grandstanding and hardly my idea of a penalogist.

Most all jails now lease out space to others states, so most all jail prisoner are serving a sentence, most of the one not found guilty yet are out on bail.
 
NEVER EVER WOULD I SUPPORT THIS SHERIFF

he belongs in prison himself...

I HOPE he gets his own treatment if convicted of his alleged crimes...

I don't believe in giving government the POWER this man has SEIZED, no way no how....

Phoenix, Arizona (CNN) -- Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio calls himself "America's toughest sheriff." He is famous for creating a tent city jail in the Arizona desert; for providing pink underwear for inmates; for bragging that he spends more to feed his dog than a prisoner in his jail.

This year he has made national headlines for his tough enforcement of Arizona's anti-illegal immigration laws and for his vocal support for a controversial new immigration law that takes effect at the end of July.

But the 77-year-old lawman is himself the subject of serious allegations of abuse of power. Arpaio's critics say he has a long history of launching bogus criminal investigations against political opponents and anyone else who gets in his way.

This year a federal grand jury started looking into the allegations.

Former Maricopa County School Superintendent Sandra Dowling says what happened to her is a case in point.

Dowling says was locked in a political battle with some members of the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors over school district funds when the sheriff's SWAT team came in the dead of night to search her home. Dowling was charged with stealing money from a school for homeless students. There were 25 felony counts in all.

"Never could I have imagined what a nightmare was waiting ahead," Dowling said.

Arpaio promised to uncover massive public corruption -- "We are looking into all avenues of this investigation," he said -- and to win a speedy conviction.

From the start Dowling maintained her innocence: "I kept saying I didn't do anything. I didn't do anything."

It took three years, but finally a judge threw out all the felony counts against Dowling. She entered a guilty plea to a single misdemeanor charge. But she said her reputation had been shattered, her career destroyed, and she owed more than $100,000 in legal fees.

"I still don't think that everybody knows I was innocent," she said.

Dowling is not alone. Arpaio has launched -- either on his own or in conjunction with the county attorney -- high-profile criminal investigations against a who's who of Maricopa County politicians and officials. The list includes the mayor of Phoenix, a former police chief, two members of the board of supervisors, Superior Court judges, and even a former state attorney general.

The charges have included public corruption, misuse of taxpayers' dollars, bribery, rape and even child molestation. What all these investigations hold in common is that they were launched with great public fanfare, but rarely resulted in convictions. Among the investigations recounted in this report, the only conviction has been on the misdemeanor charge against Dowling.

Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon calls the sheriff's long list of investigations a "reign of terror."

Gordon came under Arpaio's scrutiny, he says, after speaking out against the sheriff's neighborhood sweeps to round up illegal immigrants.

remaining of a very long article on him...

Arizona sheriff under investigation for alleged abuse of power - CNN.com

Under Arpaio's tenure as Sheriff, the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office has seen much controversy. Arpaio's practices have been criticized by organizations such as Amnesty International,[28] the American Civil Liberties Union, the Arizona Ecumenical Council, the American Jewish Committee,[29] and the Arizona chapter of the Anti-Defamation League.[30] The editorial board of The New York Times called Arpaio "America's Worst Sheriff".[31] Controversial issues surrounding the department have included allegations of racial profiling, in which the ACLU has sued the sheriff's office.[32][33] In April 2010, the Arizona Court of Appeals upheld a contempt-of-court ruling against a detention officer who "was held up as a hero among supporters of Sheriff Joe Arpaio". The officer, Adam Stoddard, was caught on video inside the courtroom during a court proceeding taking a letter from a defense attorney's file.[34]

In 2008, a federal grand jury began an inquiry of Joe Arpaio for alleged abuse of power, in connection with an FBI investigation.[35][36] Arpaio is being investigated for politically motivated and "bogus" prosecutions, which a former US Attorney called "utterly unacceptable".[35][36] Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon has called Arpaio's "long list" of questionable prosecutions "a reign of terror".[36]

The targets of Arpaio's alleged abuse of power have included or currently include: Phil Gordon, Phoenix Mayor [35]; Dan Saban, Arpaio's 2004 and 2008 opponent for the office of Sheriff of Maricopa County [35]; Terry Goddard, Arizona Attorney General [35]; David Smith, Maricopa County Manager [35]; The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors [35]; Barbara Mundell, Superior Court Presiding Judge [35]; ACLU attorney Daniel Pochoda [35]; Sandra Dowling, former Maricopa County School Superintendent [36]; Mike Lacy, Phoenix New Times.[36]

To date (July 10, 2010), of the above only Sandra Dowling has been successfully prosecuted.[36] Indicted on 25 felony counts, Dowling eventually plead guilty to patronage (to wit: giving a summer job to her daughter), a sole class 2 misdemeanor.[37]

Investigation brings no arrest of Joe, looks like the self centered groups are the only ones complaining against him.
 
Not a thing here proven that he has done wrong. Until he is found guilty, I want a sheriff just like him here where they cut 1/3 of the deputies and released 50% of the prisoners.

SFC Ollie, I understand how you feel. Cleveland has just incarcerated a long time sherriff here for fraud and various other misdeeds, and there's a rumbling that people awaiting trial or subject to arrest were given preferential treatment if they paid, etc. Believe me, as an older lady living alone, crime scares me shitless and I am not unduly sympathetic to prisoners.

But bear in mind, the people in a county jail are (for the most part) not yet found guilty. I don't have the same anger towards them as I do people in a state prison.....and I tend to agree with Zona. Arapgio seems to me to be way to interested in grandstanding and hardly my idea of a penalogist.

Most all jails now lease out space to others states, so most all jail prisoner are serving a sentence, most of the one not found guilty yet are out on bail.

Those are facts, Zona wants nothing to do with them.
 
Yep, still don't see where the Sheriff has been convicted of any wrong doing. And again I ask, How many times have the people re-elected him?

Power to the people, he must be doing something right.
 
Yep, still don't see where the Sheriff has been convicted of any wrong doing. And again I ask, How many times have the people re-elected him?

Power to the people, he must be doing something right.

I'd like to see the numbers on repeat offenders in that county. Bet it's low.
 
Yep, still don't see where the Sheriff has been convicted of any wrong doing. And again I ask, How many times have the people re-elected him?

Power to the people, he must be doing something right.

Indeed. It is inevitable that somebody who is dedicated to actually enforcing the law and keeping the peace and puts that ahead of 'feel good' nonsense and political correctness and fuzzy headed notions about victims or whatever is going to become a favorite target of those who no longer cherish such values. They want him taken down, destroyed, because he doesn't fit the new attitudes of special consideration for certain constituencies.

Sheriff Joe is from the old school that believes that we are a people of laws or we are not. The law is intended to secure our rights and discourage us from violating the rights of and/or doing violence to each other, and unless we enforce them, our rights are worth little or nothing. He doesn't care about the color of a person's skin or his/her circumstances or who s/he is, a person who breaks the law is arrested. If charged and convicted, the person serves whatever sentence is assigned by the judge.

If all law enforcement was carried out with that kind of attitude, I think we would all live in a much safer and more secure environment which would add to the quality of life for rich and poor alike.
 
Top Ten Reasons to recall Joe
The staff at Arpaio.com has polled citizens and employees of the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office and has complied this Top Ten Reasons NOT to vote for Arpaio.

1:With Arpaio, real law enforcement takes a backseat to publicity stunts.

As an example in one of Arpaio's latest stunts, and at a time when there were 12 unsolved execution-style murders in the county, he staged a massive prostitution round-up publicity stunt.

This two month "sting operation" involved over 350 deputies that were pulled off other investigative details and patrol that resulted in 80 cases that have all been declined for prosecution by the Maricopa County Attorney's Office.

Nicholas Hentoff of Phoenix wrote in a letter to the Editor of the Arizona Republic" If Joe Arpaio continues to spend the county's scarce law enforcement dollars on chasing consenting adults engaged in private sexual activity, while child murders and sexual assaults remain unsolved, he should be the one to explain to the next grieving mother why her child's killer has not been caught, prosecuted and put in prison. And the taxpayers should send him a message by electing a new sheriff who doesn't treat public funds as his private public relations piggybank."

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2: He lives in a fantasy world of self-importance.

His claims of arresting Elvis Presley, breaking the French Connection, and being in weekly shoot-outs suggest a serious mental problem.

Some of his other claims include:

Arpaio: Invented the idea of housing inmates in tents.

Truth: This is untrue, the Arizona Department of Correction has used tents for decades. Facilities in other states also used tents before Arpaio.

Arpaio: Claims credit for feeding green bologna (surplus food) to inmates

Truth: Jails and prisons here in Arizona and all over the country feed surplus food to inmates and done so for many years.

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3: Millions of tax dollars have been wasted on lawsuits

Lawsuits brought against Arpaio by employees, former employees, inmates, and the families of dead inmates have cost the county millions and Arpaio has misled the public about the cost to taxpayers of lawsuits.

The case of Scott Norberg, who died in jail, is a good example. Arpaio has frequently said the $8.25 million settlement cost the county nothing and was covered by insurance. What he does not say is that, at the time of the settlement, the county had a $1 million deductible.

Because of these lawsuits, the deductible for the sheriff's office insurance coverage has increase from $1 million to $5 million per incident.

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4: He is responsible for a critical and dangerous shortage of personnel in both the jails and patrol.

This condition is unsafe for the officers, the inmates, and the public. This situation leads to more lawsuits which results in more millions of tax dollars wasted.

Arpaio has created a critical and dangerous shortage of deputy sheriffs needed to perform fundamental law enforcement services in the unincorporated areas of the County.

Deputies that could be assigned to patrol, are assigned instead as personal bodyguards for Sheriff Arpaio.

Detention officers, desperately needed in the jails, are assigned to the labor-intensive, publicity-producing chain gangs in order to get Arpaio on more TV news programs.

Projects that bolster Arpaio's ego, satisfy his need for publicity, and insure his personal safety are all fully staffed. Unfortunately, at the same time on the streets and in the jails of the county, lives are placed at risk by Arpaio's self-serving abuse of authority .

Also Sheriff Arpaio has the largest executive staff of any police agency in Arizona and perhaps the United States . By comparison, the Los Angles County Sheriff's Department, the nation's largest, has half as many on the executive staff. The millions spend on excess executive positions should be used to hire employees that could be assigned where really needed.

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5: Hundreds of current sheriff's office employees, represented by a number of employee organizations, have expressed a vote of no confidence in Sheriff Arpaio.

Police officers associations throughout the State of Arizona have voted "no confidence" in Joe Arpaio as Sheriff! These include; State of Arizona Fraternal Order of Police, Fraternal Order of Police Lodge Five, Maricopa County Deputies Association, Arizona Cops.

If the police officers in the State of Arizona have no confidence in Joe, why should you?

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6: The self proclaimed "Toughest Sheriff in America " is too fearful to debate other candidates.

There have been several debates scheduled this year between the candidates that are running for the Office of Sheriff. All the candidates have appeared minus one, Joe Arpaio.

Why is Joe so afraid to debate his policies in public with the other candidates? Could it be that he couldn't read from his "scripted" speech that he has given hundreds of times before other public gatherings where he makes his outlandish claims to fame.

Several years ago Sheriff Arpaio visited the outlying patrol districts of the Sheriff's Office to what was suppose to be a "question and answer" meeting between his employees. Instead at each of these four meetings he started out with his canned political speech telling the deputies how important he was and that they depended upon him for their jobs. At District's Two and Three, he was politely asked by Patrol Sergeant's in attendance if he could answer questions from the deputies. He hesitantly stated that he wasn't prepared to answer any questions but would try. He was then asked basic questions that involved officer safety issues, the lack of training, and pay issues. Arpaio fumbled trying to answer, and on several occasions sidestepped the question entirely. Weeks after these meetings, the deputies and sergeants that asked these questions to Sheriff Arpaio were transferred to newly created positions within the office. One assignment was being stationed in the basement of the main jail on graveyard to answer a telephone that never rang, and another to the property room, inventorying items in storage.

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7: Arpaio routinely abuses his authority for personal, political, and vindictive reasons.

Two Republicans and an Independent running against Arpaio have all alleged abuses of power on the part of Sheriff Arpaio. In 2002, the county settled a lawsuit out of court with former employee Steve Barnes for wrongful termination after he blew the whistle on questionable tactics by the sheriff's office.

Barnes claimed that Arpaio's office wiretapped former Arpaio aide Tom Bearup and that it had targeted County Attorney Rick Romley for surveillance. Bearup, W. Steven Martin and Dan Saban, all running for sheriff against Arpaio this year, have also reported that they have been followed and harassed by sheriff's deputies.

Another example would also be the arrest of Nick Tarr, otherwise known as "Joe Arizona". In 2020 there were three hot propositions involving Indian gaming in Arizona, Nick's "Joe Arizona" character supported racetracks having slot machines, Sheriff Joe was supporting a proposition that kept Indian gaming on Indian land. For Halloween Nick decided to campaign in downtown Phoenix dressed as an officer. He went into his prop closet can came out with an old uniform shirt from DPS, his trademark "I Love Arizona" t-shirt, and a pair of Arpaio's pink boxer shorts.

Dave Hendersott, chief Deputy of the Sheriff's Office spotted Nick and he called DPS twice to have them come out and give Nick a citation. DPS officers came out and decided there was no crime. Undaunted, Hendershott then ordered his own deputies to arrest Tarr of impersonating an officer.

The charges against Tarr we later dropped and Tarr now has a lawsuit against the Sheriff's Office.

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8: Many community leaders and concerned organizations have looked beyond the smokescreen to see the corruption and incompetence of the Arpaio administration.

Sheriff Joe used to boast of 80% approval ratings amongst the voters of Maricopa County . But as the truth gets out about how he really runs one of the nations largest Sheriff's Offices, his popularity is taking a nose dive! Currently the O'Neal survey lists his approval rating at only 35%

As an example, the Son's of Italy dropped Arpaio as being a "Top Cop" cited controversy over allegations of people dying or being seriously injured while being held in Arpaio's jails. "I just believe that law enforcement officers, like Caesar's wife, must be above suspicion," De Sanctis said, making reference to William Shakespeare's "Julius Caesar." "There's too much controversy right now for us to include Sheriff Arpaio in our report," she said.

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9: Sheriff Joe Arpaio has deceived, misinformed and outright lied to the public!

He lies about his personal history, the cost of lawsuits, the effectiveness of his programs, and the money he claims to have saved taxpayers. He takes false credit for posses, chain gangs, tent jails, feeding surplus food to inmates, and pink underwear.

There are numerous examples that we can find where Sheriff Joe has outright lied to the public.

As an example, Arpaio spent over $10,000 in tax payer money to have Arizona State University study recidivism in his jail system. ASU found that there was no change in the rate at which inmates returned to the jail. Joe has discounted this study as false and continues to claim that his jail program has reduced crime in the valley.

Another claim is that Sheriff Joe has saved county tax payers millions of dollars because of his innovative programs. Then why can't he control his budget? Why was he $7 million dollars in the hole in 1999/2000/2001 and where did the money go? Why was Loretta Barkell put into the Finance Director with a title of Deputy Chief? Because the BOS put her there and told Chief Hendershott that if he got a handle on the budget he would get his raise..........................................


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Simply AMAZING that anyone would defend this thug
 
So, NRA, if he is THAT bad, how come he has such a high approval rating among the people of Maricopa County and continues to be re-elected again and again and again with huge majorities?
 
Hitler made the trains run on time. And he was elected.

:eusa_eh:

So your against those who are tring to get the illegals deported also.

The sad thing is, the "Left" will probably get him. They'll keep up the pressure, make sure there is sufficient negative opinion posted on message boards and in whatever media they can use, and will emphasize any negatives they can find even if they have to make it up. Anything good and positive is to be drowned out.

They pretty much do that to EVERYBODY with basic conservative values that becomes high profile in any way. And they'll keep doing it because it is often effective in lowering the approval ratings because too many people assume that where's there's smoke, there must be fire. And it's hard to be brave to defend somebody when there is such loud clamoring for that person's blood.

We who do support good people need to take the time and effort to keep beating the drum equally loud for the positives, but that's hard to do when you have most of the media squarely in the leftist's camp most of the time. We have to be as committed to standing up for what we know is good and constructive at least as much as they seem to be committed to tearing it down.
 
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nraforlife isn't the "left" and Sheriff Joe sounds like a criminal. If anyone does him in, it will be Sheriff Joe.
 
Hitler made the trains run on time. And he was elected.

:eusa_eh:

When this guy makes public announcements about killing folks , let me know, until then shut up with the Hitler comparisons you fool .
 

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