Would you agree to higher taxes in exchange for healthcare and college at no-cost?

No, seriously fingerboy

Discussing membership in a society with an anarchist is like discussing a symphony with a deaf person


Government is not society. That's what fascists like you keep trying to ignore.
The government is made up and represents the interests of the people, we elect representatives, have checks and balances, voting.. It is a reflection of society.

He's an autocratic libertarian.

You obviously don't know what the word "autocrat" means.

Unless you are admitting that your ideas are merely fevered dreams with no chance of ever being implemented in the real world,

you have to concede that only an autocracy of some sort could impose the sort society you envision on the People.

According to your own theory, the Founding Fathers would have had to admit the same thing about the society they wanted to impose on the people.

You just keep repeating the same logical fallacy over and over.

Is that the kind of "logic" they taught you in public schools?
 
No. The corrrupt politicians you would be giving the tax money to would steal, lose or waste that money and give you crappy education and healthcare in return.

Better to keep your own money and provide both for yourself.
Really? Even though collage is now $20k a year? Cons never realize when things are broke cause they usually got there's already.

Really? Even though collage is now $20k a year? Cons never realize when things are broke cause they usually got there's already.

I'm glad you stopped before you graduated from high school.
 
Government is not society. That's what fascists like you keep trying to ignore.
The government is made up and represents the interests of the people, we elect representatives, have checks and balances, voting.. It is a reflection of society.

That's the theory. Even if that were true, it still wouldn't be society. In reality government is a gang of men looking out for their own interests, which includes looting and plundering the productive members of society. Government is a parasite on society. It can't be anything else.

By that 'reasoning' so is a business. So is a corporation. So is a private school for that matter.

Businesses can't club you over the head and take your money and property. Government can and does.

Sure it can.

Wrong, it would be breaking the law. That is, it would be moving in on the government's turf.
 
No. The corrrupt politicians you would be giving the tax money to would steal, lose or waste that money and give you crappy education and healthcare in return.

Better to keep your own money and provide both for yourself.
Really? Even though collage is now $20k a year? Cons never realize when things are broke cause they usually got there's already.

It's "theirs" not "there's," dumbass.
 
What's with all these liers? Anyone who works for a living knows taxes were raised 2% and Obama care tax.
First they were lowered, dumbass, and Pubs blocked continuing it. O-Care tax, bs, and wasn't for 5 years ANYWAY. What planet do you live on? BS Pub World, of course.

I live on planet earth it's obvious you live on Uranus....

2013, most Americans had a good bit less money, after adjusting for taxes, than the year before. That's because in 2013, a huge tax increase affecting ordinary workers took effect, raising the employee payroll tax from 4.2 percent to 6.2 percent. A worker earning $50,000 a year saw disposable income decline by $1,000.
So, Obama raising taxes on the poor within 2 months turned out to be PUBS raising taxes on them after 4 years? lol

Who was president in 2013?

The payroll tax was not raised it returned to its previous level. Net payroll taxes over the course of the Obama administration have been lower.

So you want to play that game?

Come on when you complain an entitlement is not slashed but not funded to what libs want?
 
He also raised the highest cigarette tax of any President when he was barley in office. AFTER he promised not to raise taxes on anyone making less than 250, 000
Obama Signs Federal Cigarette Tax Hike
by Vic · February 9, 2009




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President Barak Obama signed the Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2009, providing a major expansion of the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP) to provide health insurance to moderate-income families and illegal aliens.

This government handout is funded with an increased federal tobacco tax.

  • Increase U.S. Federal Tax on a pack of cigarettes from $0.39 to $1.01 per pack
  • Increase Federal tax on pipe tobacco from $1.0969 per pound to $2.83 per pound
  • Increase Federal tax on RYO tobacco from $1.0969 per pound to $24.78 per pound
  • Increase Federal tax on cigarette papers (50 or less) from $0.0122 to $0.0315
  • Federal tax on cigarette tubes (50 or less) = $0.0244 – New rate is $0.0630

and lets NOT forget OScamCare taxes and FINES on us. the mans a puke

BINGO!! That's the tax increase I was speaking of that idiot liberals said did not happen. I mean we can play the videos of Obama stating emphatically that he would not raise peoples taxes "not one dime" then whammo he slams us with this tax hike.
 
I'll make a note, rightwinger not willing to drink his own liberal koolaid got it.
You don't understand how a society functions do you?

Why don't you explain it to us so we can all have a good laugh.

It starts with ignoring anarchists like fingerboy

That's right, run away with your tail between your legs.

How would children get educated if there were no public schools?

Their parents would build a school house and hire a teacher. You know like they did back when parents paid their own damn bills and didn't steal money from me to educate their kids they chose to have.
 
You don't understand how a society functions do you?

Why don't you explain it to us so we can all have a good laugh.

It starts with ignoring anarchists like fingerboy

That's right, run away with your tail between your legs.

How would children get educated if there were no public schools?

Their parents would build a school house and hire a teacher. You know like they did back when parents paid their own damn bills and didn't steal money from me to educate their kids they chose to have.

That was in the days before the state required you to get a Masters degree so you could teach 5-year-olds the alphabet.
 
Wrong, Obamatard raised taxes on the poor in his first 2 months. Damn but you libs are uninformed.
No he didn't

Actually, moron Foxbots, Obama gave everyone a 2% tax cut, and that is all. Did you hear about the GOP economic meltdown? So gd stupid.

What's with all these liers? Anyone who works for a living knows taxes were raised 2% and Obama care tax.
First they were lowered, dumbass, and Pubs blocked continuing it. O-Care tax, bs, and wasn't for 5 years ANYWAY. What planet do you live on? BS Pub World, of course.

I live on planet earth it's obvious you live on Uranus....

2013, most Americans had a good bit less money, after adjusting for taxes, than the year before. That's because in 2013, a huge tax increase affecting ordinary workers took effect, raising the employee payroll tax from 4.2 percent to 6.2 percent. A worker earning $50,000 a year saw disposable income decline by $1,000.
So, Obama raising taxes on the poor within 2 months turned out to be PUBS raising taxes on them after 4 years? lol

No Obama slammed the poor and middle class with a big ass tax increase in Feb 2009...then...wait for it...yes several of the greedy liberal run states followed his lead increasing the state taxes even more. With friends like liberals the poor and middle class don't need enemies.
 
It starts with ignoring anarchists like fingerboy

That's right, run away with your tail between your legs.

No, seriously fingerboy

Discussing membership in a society with an anarchist is like discussing a symphony with a deaf person


Government is not society. That's what fascists like you keep trying to ignore.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

What's your point?

We the People established the constitution of our government

Great document don't you think?
 
That's right, run away with your tail between your legs.

No, seriously fingerboy

Discussing membership in a society with an anarchist is like discussing a symphony with a deaf person


Government is not society. That's what fascists like you keep trying to ignore.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

What's your point?

We the People established the constitution of our government

Great document don't you think?

One you piss on and wipe your bottom with everyday

You sell out paid poster ....
 
That's right, run away with your tail between your legs.

No, seriously fingerboy

Discussing membership in a society with an anarchist is like discussing a symphony with a deaf person


Government is not society. That's what fascists like you keep trying to ignore.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

What's your point?

We the People established the constitution of our government

Great document don't you think?


Yes, it is a great document. Too bad that obozo does not follow it.
 
Why don't you explain it to us so we can all have a good laugh.

It starts with ignoring anarchists like fingerboy

That's right, run away with your tail between your legs.

How would children get educated if there were no public schools?

Their parents would build a school house and hire a teacher. You know like they did back when parents paid their own damn bills and didn't steal money from me to educate their kids they chose to have.

That was in the days before the state required you to get a Masters degree so you could teach 5-year-olds the alphabet.

Education and other public services have become a corrupted money making scam like pretty much everything government touches. Pretty sweet deal retire at 55 or even earlier with a fat pension and free healthcare for life courtesy of the taxpayers. And in some liberal states those state pensions, yep not subject to state income tax.
 
You don't understand how a society functions do you?

Why don't you explain it to us so we can all have a good laugh.

It starts with ignoring anarchists like fingerboy

That's right, run away with your tail between your legs.

How would children get educated if there were no public schools?

Their parents would build a school house and hire a teacher. You know like they did back when parents paid their own damn bills and didn't steal money from me to educate their kids they chose to have.

You want to try to return us to a society that was 90% agrarian? WTF?
 
The government is made up and represents the interests of the people, we elect representatives, have checks and balances, voting.. It is a reflection of society.

That's the theory. Even if that were true, it still wouldn't be society. In reality government is a gang of men looking out for their own interests, which includes looting and plundering the productive members of society. Government is a parasite on society. It can't be anything else.

By that 'reasoning' so is a business. So is a corporation. So is a private school for that matter.

Businesses can't club you over the head and take your money and property. Government can and does.

Sure it can.

Wrong, it would be breaking the law. That is, it would be moving in on the government's turf.

No. Remember, you're eliminating government.
 
Why don't you explain it to us so we can all have a good laugh.

It starts with ignoring anarchists like fingerboy

That's right, run away with your tail between your legs.

How would children get educated if there were no public schools?

Their parents would build a school house and hire a teacher. You know like they did back when parents paid their own damn bills and didn't steal money from me to educate their kids they chose to have.

You want to try to return us to a society that was 90% agrarian? WTF?

IRONY when the federal government can't borrow another trillion dollars to fund your utopia and states are flat broke guess what's going to happen fool. :laugh:
 
That's right, run away with your tail between your legs.

No, seriously fingerboy

Discussing membership in a society with an anarchist is like discussing a symphony with a deaf person


Government is not society. That's what fascists like you keep trying to ignore.

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

What's your point?

We the People established the constitution of our government

Great document don't you think?

I had nothing to do with establishing this country, and neither did about 2/3rds of the people living when the Constitution was ratified. So how did "we the people" do it?

The Constitution is a failed attempt at preventing the kind of government we have now.
 
How would children get educated if there were no public schools?

Private schools or their parents.

And what nation should we use as an example of how well that works in the 21st century?

That's the old "every dog has ticks" argument.

You propose a model for national education policy but you cannot produce a single example of how, where, and why it would produce better results than the current model.

Where did they have public education before we had public education?

learn to read

I'm talking about your model for the elimination of all public education. Where is that model working?
 
That's the theory. Even if that were true, it still wouldn't be society. In reality government is a gang of men looking out for their own interests, which includes looting and plundering the productive members of society. Government is a parasite on society. It can't be anything else.

By that 'reasoning' so is a business. So is a corporation. So is a private school for that matter.

Businesses can't club you over the head and take your money and property. Government can and does.

Sure it can.

Wrong, it would be breaking the law. That is, it would be moving in on the government's turf.

No. Remember, you're eliminating government.

So you're saying that businesses behave like government when there is no government?

Do you ever read the stupid stuff you post?
 
It starts with ignoring anarchists like fingerboy

That's right, run away with your tail between your legs.

How would children get educated if there were no public schools?

Their parents would build a school house and hire a teacher. You know like they did back when parents paid their own damn bills and didn't steal money from me to educate their kids they chose to have.

You want to try to return us to a society that was 90% agrarian? WTF?

IRONY when the federal government can't borrow another trillion dollars to fund your utopia and states are flat broke guess what's going to happen fool. :laugh:

Was that a yes or a no?
 

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