Would Jesus come back as Republican Democrat Libertarian Progressive or what?

[sparky]

The Bible itself seems to contradict you.

Nowhere near how much you're contradicting it here Andy.....~S~

 

[sparky]

The right married politics and religion and corrupted both. The simple faith of my childhood is unrecognizable

religion and faith have become inversely proportional to the point of severe cognitive dissonance

So you need to rethink a little bit.

you need to realize recovering christians do just that

~S~

 

[emilynghiem]

Well.... no.... We are absolutely not to be each other's saviors. In fact, trying to be someone else's savior, is the worst thing you can do, because you simply can't. There is only one true Jesus. No one else can be Jesus, but Jesus.

So I don't know where you got that idea, that we are to try and put ourselves as G-d, but that is not how it works.

However, that is true that we are not to be intentionally jerks to people.

I think where the rub comes, is that Christians are in fact, supposed to stand up against the darkness. We are supposed to call evil, what is evil.

Now that doesn't mean I go around town trying to hunt down people that are doing wrong, and scream in their face. Which I think that is what you are referring to.

But if I'm asked if doing X is wrong, I'm going to say, yeah that's wrong. Yeah, Divorcing your wife without cause is wrong. "You are being a jerk!" No, I'm just saying the truth, because you asked. I didn't hunt you down, you asked me, and I answered a question.

Jesus specifically told us to give of our time and money in service to our brothers and sisters, especially the downtrodden. I look at evangelicals and I see an entire faith passing by on the other side. I fail to understand why this central ideal is missing from American right-wing politicized Christianity. I mean it's right there in red and white.

What? Stop... what?

https://www.pgm.org/our-impact/impact-statistics/
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Pacific Garden Mission, is a 100% evangelical funded ministry. They take no government money. They provide food, clothing, shelter, health care, and job/career training programs free.

That is one of HUNDREDS of programs across the country.

Mercy Home Ministries

Mercy Ministries is a non-profit which takes young women, has shelter for those who have run away from home, or kicked out. Provides help for those who have problems with addiction, self-harm, suicide, human trafficking, food, shelter, clothing.

Samaritan’s Purse Home Page

Samartian's purse has been air lifting supplies in, and Christian Syrians out of Syria for years. They are already on the ground in South Sudan where the massive floods have people running for shelter.

Lutheran Social Services Network of Hope

Lutheran Social Services in Columbus Ohio, operates the shelter I volunteer at.

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1.6 Million meals given out this year. 124,000 people sheltered for the night (not all at one time obviously, but over the course of a year). 80K uses of the free health clinic. All paid for by church support, and charitable donations.

Do you need me to go on?

Home | Cypress Church

My home church. Right now in the middle of a Coat4Kids program. We had four of the stores around the church, all run out of stock on children's coats, because of this drive.

Missions | Northwest Bible Church

My sister's church, has a orphanage in Malawi that they fund almost exclusively.

Outreach - Berean Bible Church - Dublin, OH

My parents church sends people to the Ronald McDonald House, which if you don't know what they do, they help children at Nationwide Children's Hospital.

So, you'll forgive me if I'm a bit blown away by your statement that evangelicals are passing by on the other side.........

Based on what?? How can you possibly say such a thing? And by the way, what I just posted was a few highlights, from thousands of examples. It would be impossible for me to list all the evangelical service ministries operating just in Ohio... just one state.

So not to be too repetitious.... but what.... in the world.... are you.... talking about??

I am talking about the American right and their terribly un-Christian way of dealing with the world. Nothing of Christ exists in their politics, nothing. They are passing by on the other side. Remember the parable of the Samaritan? I do not think you do.

Of course I do. I've read through the Bible every single year, for the past 6 years.

And I just listed hundreds of examples of people following that teaching.

So again.... what in the world are you talking about? Their terribly un-christian way of dealing with world? Did you miss Samaritan's Purse sending entire plane loads of supplies to Syrian and South Sudan?

What are you talking about? Be specific. You keep making vague ambiguous claims, with nothing supporting it.

The shameful sadistic way that we treated the refugees coming to the Southern border marks you for a hypocrite. Did you have a single charitable impulse?

From Puerto Rico to California to Florida we have seen a string of natural disasters. Trump and the republicans played politics with every bit of it while Americans suffered. Did you even care?

Our president lies constantly. Do you value honesty at all?

Our Earth is in a climate crisis. Why do you not care that we treat God's creation like a garbage dump in the name of capitalism.

Speaking of capitalism. The want of money is the root of all evil yet the right sees the amoral nature of business as somehow blameless.

It's getting late so I will cut off there for now.

The right married politics and religion and corrupted both. The simple faith of my childhood is unrecognizable. Those moral majority jerks that hijacked the mainly Southern Baptist churches deserve the lowest pits of hell for what they have done.

Dear occupied
(1) God loves a cheerful giver.
Not one forced by law and government to give out of state taxes
instead of by free will from the heart.

Neither party would agree to any such concept of the
STATE forcing ANYONE to practice Christianity!
That's a direct violation of the letter and spirit of the First Amendment.

Both parties AGREE there should not be Government mandating Religious activity and choice.
Why do Liberals like you INSIST on REJECTING the tenets and teachings of Christianity,
barring prayer and practice from schools and government functions,
but SUDDENLY wanting everyone to be "Christian" when it comes to just the giving part?
Not the RESPONSIBILITY of avoiding loose sexual relations, of FORGIVING one another,
and loving even enemies?

You only want to cite Christianity when it suits you, not when
it comes to forgiving, understanding and including "your neighbors like Trump and Bush."

That isn't practicing Christianity but abusing it for politics,
and it violates the Democratic precepts of "freedom of choice"
and "separation of church and state."

That is just as hypocritical as the negativity you criticize as uncharitable.

(2) the TRUE way of giving and helping neighbors CHARITABLY
is through CHURCHES and CHARITIES DESIGNED TO CARE FOR PEOPLE.

Government is designed to treat all people the same for equal protections of the law.

Charity requires working ONE ON ONE with what each INDIVIDUAL needs.
Government is NOT designed to do that, and that's why our schools and "social
programs" FAIL when they get FEDERALIZED through NATIONAL GOVT
that is supposed to be for NATIONAL security and interests, and INTERSTATE
commerce and laws governing states, NOT FOR INDIVIDUALS.

The Bill of Rights spells out the rights of INDIVIDUALS and most of that
is PROHIBITIVE about what Government CANNOT DO.

The liberties and protections in the Bill of Rights that people DO have
are for PEOPLE AND STATES to democratically govern for themselves.
NOT for FEDERAL GOVT.

(3) In general Liberals like you, and I am a broader denomination of this
as a Progressive who believes in INCLUSION of diversity especially political groups and beliefs,
we tend to FORGIVE conflicts and breaches of Constitutional limits on govt
and we aren't afraid to push and ask for reforms that go beyond what has been done before.

however, what makes me different is that I HAVE committed and taken a public oath
to uphold the principles and process under CONSTITUTIONAL LAWS AND ETHICS
similar to other Christians who commit to CIVIL OBEDIENCE to both civil and scriptural laws.

I'm liberal in that I put the spirit first before the letter, and don't get "fundamentalistic" about
the letter of the law.

But I will NOT stand for anyone like you calling for BREAKING LAWS
trying to preach about inclusion and equality. That would violate inclusion
by violating rights and BELIEFS of others like me who believe in OBEYING LAWS.

In short, we cannot call for following "Christian charity" to the point of
violating CIVIL LAWS that followers and committed Christians are called to obey EQUALLY.

We must respect the EQUAL religious freedom, choice and BELIEFS of all neighbors
and not put our own "political beliefs" before others, to the point of MANDATING
THOSE BELIEFS AND CREEDS through GOVT which violates other laws.

We cannot enforce laws if we are breaking them.
And cannot break laws we are enforcing.

The ultimate rule of law in any religion is the Golden Rule.
That is universal to every system of law ever developed by man.

So occupied if you want others to practice Divine forgiveness and Charity
as in Christianity, start with yourself. If you can forgive and include Trump
and Republicans, Conservatives, Christians or others you blame as hypocrites,
and treat them with inclusion and free choice of correcting mutual faults,
that WOULD BE PRACTICING the same Christianity you teach.

If we did this with the Code of Ethics for Govt Service and Bill of Rights
equally as Christians are called to enforce and obey Scriptural laws,
then YES we would have both consistency in Church institutions as State.

But we start with ourselves, and our own relations, before we
preach to others what they should do with theirs.

As a fellow Progressive and most liberal Democrat -- who includes Republicans,
Conservatives, Christians, and Prolife equally as Libertarians and Greens --
I AGREE with you we should all act more CHARITABLY and CONSCIONABLY
toward one another, especially those we blame and can't stand the most,
so we fulfill Equal Justice Under Law through the State and Justice and Peace through the Church.

This way, the spirit and authority of JESUS CHRIST
fulfills and unites both State laws and Church teachings,
instead of violating one for the other as you propose.

Have a Happy Productive Thanksgiving, Christmas and
Holiday Season, and may the New Year bring you BETTER
than what you ask for. I pray in unity for the Good Will
and Solutions we are all asking for, which will come about
but not in the ways you see that are in conflict.

May all Conflicts be RESOLVED in Christ Jesus to
RESTORE JUSTICE AND PEACE and unite our nations,
leaders and world in an uplifting, healing way.

May all the Corrections we seek come about in the spirit
of reconciliation, understanding and collaboration with the
love of Truth, Justice and Peace that governs all humanity as one.

In Christ Jesus name let us pray.
For sake of Peace and Justice. Amen.

 

[Robert Urbanek]

People generally become more conservative as they grow older. So, Jesus is likely looking at his younger self and saying "Jeez, what was I thinking?"

 

[emilynghiem]

occupied
Forgot to cite the link to the Code of Ethics and Bill of Rights:
www.ethics-commission.net

In short, to practice full inclusion of immigrants who aren't citizens yet,
this would involve MASS EDUCATION and social support to set up enough
communities with training to become self-governing in order to accommodate
masses equally.

Setting schools and campus towns up along the border would involve
collaborating with CHARITIES, churches, businesses and workers/leaders
NOT JUST governments which would focus on the security.

All campuses have strict security regulations and registration to protect
their students, programs and facilities.

This would like take collaborative effort with the Catholic Church to manage
all the masses of workers and immigrants from the countries most in need.

The Govt would be working full time providing the military and police security.
The social programs from education to housing and health care and social
services would best be provided by CHURCH AND NONPROFITS designed
to do this individually with the most cost effective SUSTAINABLE systems
already proven to work.

No Govt program, including the failed VA and prison and mental health systems,
are able to provide the work and services that private charities and nonprofits
have mastered. Those cost effective services are the ones that should be FUNDED
developed and REPLICATED in order to meet the demands of these populations in need.

Examples of Nonprofits I would replicate along the border
* Catholic Charities
* Pace Universal and other Anti-Trafficking initiatives
* Habitat for Humanity
* Patient Physician Cooperatives
* Doctors Without Borders, AmeriCares, St. Judes Children's Hospital
* Any of a number of Restorative Justice prison and WORK programs proven to
break the cycle of abuse, violence, addiction, crime and poverty and
turn victims of poverty into productive contributing members of society:
* No More Victims Global Inc/Cherish Our Children
* Alternatives to Violence Project USA
* Justice Fellowship/Prison Fellowship
And any Mentorship or University program that can be replicated to train
teams of people to set up campus jobs and towns for workers
* International Program at University of Texas at Brownsville
* Workfaith Connection and any proven program that puts homeless people and Veterans back to work
* Grameen Foundation and Grameen Bank that provide business microloans and mentorship to individuals developing
and following business plans for economic development

All this work is best done by nonprofits and businesses outside
the constraints put on Federal Govt. The funds and tax deductible
DONATIONS and INVESTMENTS should go THERE, not get paid
into Federal Govt that cannot do the individualized community outreach
at the level this needs to be enacted to be EFFECTIVE and SUSTAINABLE.

 

[emilynghiem]

People generally become more conservative as they grow older. So, Jesus is likely looking at his younger self and saying "Jeez, what was I thinking?"

Great point! Robert Urbanek
With religious and spiritual development, it can start off the other way.
According to Fowler's chart of faith development,
people start off as children, very idealistic and open to the most ideal
and best in all people and things.

But when we become aware through experience,
that's where the FUNDAMENTALISTIC phase can kick in.
And people become legalistic and protective of the terms
over their barriers, space and relationships so we don't
get hurt by people with ill will and abusive intent.

After THAT phase of fundamental extremes,
then people can back off and end up more moderate,
being able to distinguish between the liberal inclusive
approach and the conservative "rule of law" defenses.

Chart of James Fowler's Stages of Faith | psychologycharts.com

What we see today, because of REACTIONS to past rejection
and persecution by Christians and far right of the liberal and secular
and NONCHRISTIAN, this pendulum seems to have swung politically
to the OPPOSITE extreme to play out the bad karma from the past.

So now we have LIBERALS going to FUNDAMENTALISTIC extremes
of persecuting and treating Christians and NONgays as something
to be rejected, hated and shamed by society (instead of the other way around).

No, this isn't healthy or permanent.

It's part of the reaction phase, every action invokes an equal
opposite reaction, or CAUSE AND EFFECT or laws of KARMA.

What you reap you sow. And there were very hurtful seeds sown in the past.

This isn't the permanent stage, and most people I know are looking for
the day this phase, too, shall pass.

When we reach spiritual and political maturity, it won't be like this.

We will realize that all groups and histories have their rights and wrongs,
their genocides and oppression, their generational stages and phases.

When we forgive the past, learn and heal from it, we QUIT REPEATING
the same patterns. We realize humanity is equal and all people of
all tribes have some higher knowledge and wisdom to contribute.

The WHITES are not the source of evil but have contributed key
laws and systems that are the framework of the SOLUTION to equalize
and help ALL humanity to become SELF GOVERNING.

the LIBERALS need to get over the fact that the White/Eurocentric culture
established such a keystone historically that is used as the benchmark
for all nations and tribes to fulfill those standards on natural law and governance,
and relations between church and state, and checks and balance on authority.

This isn't some "parental authority" trying to dictate for the people.
but NATURAL LAWS that all people are self-governed by conscience.

So as soon as this current phase of "rebelling against parental authority"
catches up with itself, we should be more aware and working toward
EQUAL independence and self-government, as children learning they
aren't supposed to be taken care of by their parents but should be
the parents taking care of the next household and generations so we
move forward not backwards. This doesn't mean we break the rules
we started off with, but learn to use them to govern our own communities
instead of depending on state or federal government to mandate for us.

The more we accept and agree on the path of development that
nations are supposed to be following, similar to parents teaching
their kids to be self-responsible and self-governing, then we can
better help each other no matter what stages each person or nation
or group is in. the point is to move FORWARD to self-realization and
independence and "cooperative" relations, not dependence.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Here's a question never to ask online, or you will get a 20 page answer from me, explaining how Jesus represents the Authority of EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW and would unite the best of all parties while correcting the problems with all of us. (see my original answer I will post as a separate post on this thread, it's way too long and annoying, and needs tons of editing)

To make this simple, I'll just post a POLL of which party you think Jesus would use to lead the Second Coming or REFORMATION. We already saw the first Reformation where Luther liberated people from depending on Church authority in order to follow the laws of Christianity by building their own churches.

Today we face the challenging stage of liberating people from depending on Govt authority, by following the laws of Constitutional process and ethics to build our own community, city and state programs as sustainable developments without relying on federal govt or taxation forced on others. We are supposed to be building and governing ourselves, locally and democratically, while using the state and federal levels for national security and defense, and checking and balance powers that are only granted to government by consent of the governed.

How can we establish Equal Justice Under Law when people are organized into diverse tribes, parties and nations each with their own beliefs?

That is the challenge that Jesus fulfills as the spirit of RESTORATIVE JUSTICE that makes us all EQUAL UNDER LAW. What party would Jesus use to lead this movement?

Or would he call for a mix of the top 4 parties and unite teams of leaders from all the branches and denominations to lead their tribes in a collaborative, unified plan for the nation and the world?

What PARTY do you think Jesus would claim or affiliate with to fulfill EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW for all people of America and to lead the rest of the world by example? Would he even manifest in America as the leader of this movement toward perfect democratic government by empowering or educating the masses?
Might he come through China or Russia or Africa to lead whole continents to unite on plans to rebuild and reform society to serve all people through charitable free will and no longer rely on force of government?

How do you envision the Second coming of Jesus as EQUAL JUSTICE and PEACE for all people?

What.

 

[emilynghiem]

Here's a question never to ask online, or you will get a 20 page answer from me, explaining how Jesus represents the Authority of EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW and would unite the best of all parties while correcting the problems with all of us. (see my original answer I will post as a separate post on this thread, it's way too long and annoying, and needs tons of editing)

To make this simple, I'll just post a POLL of which party you think Jesus would use to lead the Second Coming or REFORMATION. We already saw the first Reformation where Luther liberated people from depending on Church authority in order to follow the laws of Christianity by building their own churches.

Today we face the challenging stage of liberating people from depending on Govt authority, by following the laws of Constitutional process and ethics to build our own community, city and state programs as sustainable developments without relying on federal govt or taxation forced on others. We are supposed to be building and governing ourselves, locally and democratically, while using the state and federal levels for national security and defense, and checking and balance powers that are only granted to government by consent of the governed.

How can we establish Equal Justice Under Law when people are organized into diverse tribes, parties and nations each with their own beliefs?

That is the challenge that Jesus fulfills as the spirit of RESTORATIVE JUSTICE that makes us all EQUAL UNDER LAW. What party would Jesus use to lead this movement?

Or would he call for a mix of the top 4 parties and unite teams of leaders from all the branches and denominations to lead their tribes in a collaborative, unified plan for the nation and the world?

What PARTY do you think Jesus would claim or affiliate with to fulfill EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW for all people of America and to lead the rest of the world by example? Would he even manifest in America as the leader of this movement toward perfect democratic government by empowering or educating the masses?
Might he come through China or Russia or Africa to lead whole continents to unite on plans to rebuild and reform society to serve all people through charitable free will and no longer rely on force of government?

How do you envision the Second coming of Jesus as EQUAL JUSTICE and PEACE for all people?

What.

Okay C_Clayton_Jones
Short version for you:
Since CHRIST JESUS represents EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW
and UNIVERSAL PEACE AND JUSTICE FOR ALL PEOPLE:
what party or parties would Jesus affiliate with
upon his return as the COMING OF JUSTICE FOR ALL.

Is Jesus' Authority as RESTORATIVE JUSTICE
going to come from LIBERAL PROGRESSIVE leaders,
from NY or CA, or CONSERVATIVE TEXAS REPUBLICANS?

Will this Unifying Justice come from AMERICA or from our relations
with CHINA AND RUSSIA?

How do you see JUSTICE manifesting where all tribes
and all nations will RECEIVE JUSTICE or JESUS to unite the world?

 

[norwegen]

Jesus stated emphatically that the kingdom was his purpose for coming (Lk 4:43). He also stated emphatically that judgment was his purpose for coming (Jn 9:39).

He wielded a two-edged sword - on one side of the blade a blessing; on the other side a curse. The kingdom of God on the earth; judgment on apostate Judea.

That's the New Testament, Folks. Verse upon verse on the kingdom; verse upon verse on the judgment, both of which fulfilled New Testament prophecy.

As Jesus has returned in power and spirit (like Elijah did), his body being the church, as the Scriptures aver repeatedly, we can already surmise his affinities, and they are not socialist. He is the only sovereign, while everyone else in the church are counted as equals.

 

[The Irish Ram]

None of the above.
He is a priest in the order of Melchesdick.

 

[Votto]

Here's my original answer unedited.

To edit it, I guess I'd just say Jesus doesn't represent any one party but EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW. This would include people of ALL parties (see last part in BOLD:
This view would be seen as LIBERTARIAN by respecting free will of individuals, and would be INCLUSIVE OF DIVERSITY as Liberals and Progressives preach, but would follow both CHRISTIAN AND CONSTITUTIONAL laws as the Conservatives and Republicans preach by obedience to laws. Jesus would fulfill all these paths and unite them as the Authority of EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW that governs and includes people of all tribes.)

But that doesn't explain which one Jesus would use PRIMARILY to lead the others.

So that's why my answer turned into THIS huge diatribe on political diversity and inclusion:

"He would probably try to work with people of all parties to stick to God's plan, will and purpose that would unite across all parties and lead not only the nation but the world to follow suit. He would have disciples from all parties, and work with all tribes. I'm guessing he'd have Presidents and Governors come from Conservative CONSTITUTIONALISTS, Military and Republican backgrounds that promote the leadership needed for SECURITY and DEFENSE. And have Democrats Liberals and Progressives working INTERNALLY on including people in education and participation in the democratic process, developing health care and medical education to reduce the populations and costs of prisons so schools and teaching hospitals can be funded instead training doctors and nurses for the same money wasted incarcerating inmates who can't work and become burdens on society.

He would call anyone working for RESTORATIVE JUSTICE, Equal Justice Under Law, and Justice and Peace to work together. I am guessing this takes a COMBINATION of parties. He would be a "diversity inclusion" version of Thomas Jefferson, whom BOTH PARTIES CLAIM -- totally compelling people by free choice and rebuke to correct wrongs instead of abusing force. Dr. King was a Republican and failed to unite people totally. Christ Jesus as the Law or Authority of RESTORATIVE JUSTICE would likely be INCLUSIVE of diversity, calling all people poor or rich, and not blaming any one "group" but rebuking and correcting wrongs in EVERY class, group, tribe, nation or situation. But he would enforce and not reject the Church and State laws in the Bible and Bill of Rights which reflect Universal laws given by God. So he would not be like the Liberals of today "rejecting Christianity and Constitutionalism" He would be compelling all people to follow these natural and spiritual laws that are UNIVERSAL for the good of humanity. He might be more LIBERTARIAN with the INCLUSION of the progressive liberals that Democrats claim (but aren't practicing), while ENFORCING CONSTITUTIONAL AND CHRISTIAN LAWS that unite all people to GOVERN THEMSELVES DEMOCRATICALLY by free will and respect for good faith relations between all neighbors and all nations joined as one under God.

He would call anyone with a vision to fulfill universal plans that benefit ALL people of ALL Parties and classes and doesn't try to abuse force on others including forced taxation to force others to pay for the agenda of other parties or groups. All the work would be compelled by FREE WILL because people will follow the right plan by consent. He would work through individuals building local programs through churches, schools, nonprofits and businesses where people take responsibility not depending on Government to do the work. The people would unite and be in charge and do things independently through education and empowerment as unified communities following God not party agenda forced on anyone. That's not necessary where Jesus reconciles each person with God's plan which doesn't require Government to force people to invest in community building and charity, but all the work will be based on what people NATURALLY believe in and agree to do.

This view would be seen as LIBERTARIAN by respecting free will of individuals, and would be INCLUSIVE OF DIVERSITY as Liberals and Progressives preach, but would follow both CHRISTIAN AND CONSTITUTIONAL laws as the Conservatives and Republicans preach by obedience to laws. Jesus would fulfill all these paths and unite them as the Authority of EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW that governs and includes people of all tribes."

Well my guess is that he won't be running for any elections considering they nailed him to a cross.

 

[Issa]

Here's a question never to ask online, or you will get a 20 page answer from me, explaining how Jesus represents the Authority of EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW and would unite the best of all parties while correcting the problems with all of us. (see my original answer I will post as a separate post on this thread, it's way too long and annoying, and needs tons of editing)

To make this simple, I'll just post a POLL of which party you think Jesus would use to lead the Second Coming or REFORMATION. We already saw the first Reformation where Luther liberated people from depending on Church authority in order to follow the laws of Christianity by building their own churches.

Today we face the challenging stage of liberating people from depending on Govt authority, by following the laws of Constitutional process and ethics to build our own community, city and state programs as sustainable developments without relying on federal govt or taxation forced on others. We are supposed to be building and governing ourselves, locally and democratically, while using the state and federal levels for national security and defense, and checking and balance powers that are only granted to government by consent of the governed.

How can we establish Equal Justice Under Law when people are organized into diverse tribes, parties and nations each with their own beliefs?

That is the challenge that Jesus fulfills as the spirit of RESTORATIVE JUSTICE that makes us all EQUAL UNDER LAW. What party would Jesus use to lead this movement?

Or would he call for a mix of the top 4 parties and unite teams of leaders from all the branches and denominations to lead their tribes in a collaborative, unified plan for the nation and the world?

What PARTY do you think Jesus would claim or affiliate with to fulfill EQUAL JUSTICE UNDER LAW for all people of America and to lead the rest of the world by example? Would he even manifest in America as the leader of this movement toward perfect democratic government by empowering or educating the masses?
Might he come through China or Russia or Africa to lead whole continents to unite on plans to rebuild and reform society to serve all people through charitable free will and no longer rely on force of government?

How do you envision the Second coming of Jesus as EQUAL JUSTICE and PEACE for all people?

If jesus showed up today "fake conservatives" would call for his deportation and call him rag head.

Jesus is a Jew.... moron.


Good grief

Who said he wasn't?

 

[g5000]

Jesus clearly taught marriage is between a man and a women.

He taught that Trump is a YUGE adulterer.

 

[Andylusion]

Jesus clearly taught marriage is between a man and a women.

He taught that Trump is a YUGE adulterer.

Ok? What does that have to do with anything I said?

In the question of which party generally support Jesus teaching, what does Trump have to do with the question?

Does Trump being an adulterer, change that Jesus taught that marriage is between a man and a women? No.
Does Trump being an adulterer, change which party more closely resembles the teach of Christ? No.

So... what is your point?