Working Together: The Mayflower Compact

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    November 11, 1620
    When it was learned that the Mayflower was landing in New England, and not at the
    Hudson River, as specified in their patent, there was great dissention between the Separatists (Pilgrims) and the Strangers. But it was agreed that the only way for the settlement to succeed was if everyone worked together, and that before they landed everyone had to sign a formal and binding agreement. Therefore they hammered out the Mayflower Compact, the first basis for written law in the new world:

    "In the name of God, Amen. We, whose names are underwritten, the Loyal Subjects of our dread Sovereign Lord, King James, by the Grace of God, of England, France and Ireland, King, Defender of the Faith, e&. Having undertaken for the Glory of God, and Advancement of the Christian Faith, and the Honour of our King and Country, a voyage to plant the first colony in the northern parts of Virginia; do by these presents, solemnly and mutually in the Presence of God and one of another, covenant and combine ourselves together into a civil Body Politick, for our better Ordering and Preservation, and Furtherance of the Ends aforesaid; And by Virtue hereof to enact, constitute, and frame, such just and equal Laws, Ordinances, Acts, Constitutions and Offices, from time to time, as shall be thought most meet and convenient for the General good of the Colony; unto which we promise all due submission and obedience. In Witness whereof we have hereunto subscribed our names at Cape Cod the eleventh of November, in the Reign of our Sovereign Lord, King James of England, France and Ireland, the eighteenth, and of Scotland the fifty-fourth. Anno Domini, 1620."

    John Carver was the agreed upon governor, and on the morning of November 11th, 1620, he led the group forty-one men signed the compact. Of the nine who did not sign, some were sailors signed on for one year, some were too sick.

    A study in 2002 found that almost 10% of the population of America can trace their ancestry back to the Mayflower.
     
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    No DAR for me, though. Not even close.
     
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    It matches the 10% in this country that are still dominionists...
     
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    It's clearly Unconstitutional what with "God" and all, I can see Sotomayor, Ginsburg, Breyer, White and Kennedy voting to strike it down
     
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    You made a thread about my hometown :).

    The signers were:

    John Carver
    William Bradford
    Edward Winslow
    William Brewster
    Isaac Allerton
    Miles Standish
    John Alden
    Samuel Fuller
    Christopher Martin
    William Mullins William White
    James Chilton
    John Craxton
    John Billington
    Richard Warren
    John Howland
    Steven Hopkins
    Edward Tilly
    John Tilly
    Francis Cook Thomas Rogers
    Thomas Tinker
    John Rigdale
    Edward Fuller
    John Turner
    Francis Eaton
    Moses Fletcher
    Digery Priest
    Thomas Williams
    Gilbert Winslow Edmond Margeson
    Peter Brown
    Richard Bitteridge
    Richard Clark
    Richard Gardiner
    John Allerton
    Thomas English
    Edward Doten
    Edward Liester
    John Goodman
    George Soule


    Hey look anscestors ;)
     
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    And SO DID Jefferson, Madison and our founding fathers...

    The First Amendment to the United States Constitution

    "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
     
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    :lol:

    no they didn't
    Really they didn't
    :rofl:

    ok ok in all seriousness....the mayflower compact existed WAY before the constitution.
     
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    I've met some of the Genealogy nuts who trace their ancestors back to the Mayflower, or George Washington, or Charlemagne, or Julius Caesar, or even Alexander the Great. The results are typically threadbare starting around 1860 and become pure speculation somewhere along the route.
    I don't doubt that 10% of the US may have an ancestor from the Mayflower, but rather that 10% could actually show that descent from the existing records.

    I agree with the principle of working together, but too many people have radically divergent views to make it practical. As Einstein famously said "Common sense is the set of prejudices one acquires by age eighteen." Most of the extremists on both ends of the political spectrum are filled with such "common" sense.
     
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    That does not say what you retards keep claiming it says. There is NO requirement that God not be mentioned by the Government at all. Just that no Church may ever be recognized as the one church for the United States, NO State run church as in England. God is mentioned in many places in our Government. Including the Legislature, the Supreme Court and the Executive branches of our Government. Jefferson attended church every Sunday while in Washington DC. Usually at the Congress itself.

    The Senate and the House are opened every day by a prayer from a Religious person. I believe both have paid clergy on Staff. The Supreme Court Building is adorned with numerous religious sculptures and paintings. Our military has a clergy branch in every service. Our money says " In God We Trust".
     
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    See 'ya!
     

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