Woman arrested for praying silently in public.

[Bob Blaylock]

/----/ People who pray and work to protect innocent life are nut jobs and those who murder babies in their mother's womb are outstanding public servants? Only in your sick world.

Isaiah 5:20

 

[Bob Blaylock]

I don't care what you do but don't try to tell me history of my country when you don't know shit about it

Donald H is lower than merely not knowing shit about our country.

Do not let it be forgotten that Canaduh was founded on groveling an cowering before the same tyrant against whom we Americans violently rebelled in order to found our country. A cretin from Canaduh has little more standing to tell us Americans about our country than a certain one-legged British faggot has.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

British free speech isn’t free.

Working it's way into America at light speed.
People who died in USA100 years ago would drop dead again if they could magically come back today and see how much freedom has been lost willfully surrendered.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Working it's way into America at light speed.
People who died in USA100 years ago would drop dead again if they could magically come back today and see how much freedom has been lost willfully surrendered.

I've asked this question of others who said much the same thing that you just did....................

What freedoms have we lost/willfully surrendered in this country?

Most of them answer with generalities like "watch the news, it's happening" or some other such bullshit, but can never specify exactly what freedoms they have lost. If you can, answer with a specific freedom that you have lost that your great relatives enjoyed 100 years ago in this country. I'm guessing you will only give generalities based on your perceptions, but won't be able to point to anything specific.

 

[Rust_Cohle]

I've asked this question of others who said much the same thing that you just did....................

What freedoms have we lost/willfully surrendered in this country?

Most of them answer with generalities like "watch the news, it's happening" or some other such bullshit, but can never specify exactly what freedoms they have lost. If you can, answer with a specific freedom that you have lost that your great relatives enjoyed 100 years ago in this country. I'm guessing you will only give generalities based on your perceptions, but won't be able to point to anything specific.

Go back to 1913 and the creation of the federal reserve. Everything since then has made it so every dollar created in this nation is created with debt attached to it and that debt grows every year.

If you wanna know what we can't do now that people could do then here's a simple one collect rain water. Did you know that's a crime?

How about how people could order drugs through Sears catalogue

Or how people didn't need a license to travel

Or how people didn't need a license to marry

Or just the shear amount of things we are taxed on today that our founders would have revolted over But again that gets back to my first point

Fact is we are all enslaved to the central bankers and things will only get worse once they carbon tax us here like what the EU is getting ready to do

 

[ABikerSailor]

Go back to 1913 and the creation of the federal reserve. Everything since then has made it so every dollar created in this nation is created with debt attached to it and that debt grows every year.

If you wanna know what we can't do now that people could do then here's a simple one collect rain water. Did you know that's a crime?

How about how people could order drugs through Sears catalogue

Or how people didn't need a license to travel

Or how people didn't need a license to marry

Or just the shear amount of things we are taxed on today that our founders would have revolted over But again that gets back to my first point

Fact is we are all enslaved to the central bankers and things will only get worse once they carbon tax us here like what the EU is getting ready to do

The federal reserve has nothing to do with individual freedoms.

If you can't collect rainwater, then why do so many farmers, as well as others do so? You can buy a rainwater collection device for your home right now if you want. Got any links to that specific law? I'm guessing it's more local than federal.

Not being able to order drugs via Sears isn't taking away your freedoms, because you can still get them if a doctor prescribes them. Matter of fact, did you know you can get Viagra through the mail?

Where is it stated that you need a license to travel? For going from one state to the other, you don't need one unless you are driving or flying. But, if you catch a ride with someone going the same place, you don't need a license to do so.

As far as needing a license to get married? Nope. Common law marriage is still something that many states do. All you have to do is live with someone for a certain amount of time (requirements vary from place to place, but usually 7 years), say that you're married, and go get a certificate stating as such so you can file your taxes as married people.

Taxes don't really figure into freedoms. Many homeless still have the same rights and freedoms as everyone else, even though they don't have licenses, pay taxes or have jobs.

Next?

 

[Rust_Cohle]

The federal reserve has nothing to do with individual freedoms.

If you can't collect rainwater, then why do so many farmers, as well as others do so? You can buy a rainwater collection device for your home right now if you want. Got any links to that specific law? I'm guessing it's more local than federal.

Not being able to order drugs via Sears isn't taking away your freedoms, because you can still get them if a doctor prescribes them. Matter of fact, did you know you can get Viagra through the mail?

Where is it stated that you need a license to travel? For going from one state to the other, you don't need one unless you are driving or flying. But, if you catch a ride with someone going the same place, you don't need a license to do so.

As far as needing a license to get married? Nope. Common law marriage is still something that many states do. All you have to do is live with someone for a certain amount of time (requirements vary from place to place, but usually 7 years), say that you're married, and go get a certificate stating as such so you can file your taxes as married people.

Taxes don't really figure into freedoms. Many homeless still have the same rights and freedoms as everyone else, even though they don't have licenses, pay taxes or have jobs.

Next?

You don't think a central bank that makes the monetary policy of a country restricts individual freedom? You don't think taxes measure into personal freedom? LOL you must live with your parents and don't pay any. Everyone is enslaved to bankers whether they know it or not

It Is Illegal to Collect Rainwater in These States | Water Filter Authority

Collecting rainwater isn't as simple as it would seem. Read this in-depth guide to know in which states is it illegal to collect rainwater in!

waterfilterauthority.com

Again you think having to get something prescribed from a doctor = being able to get it yourself

Flying or Driving you need a license. Or just hitchhike like you suggest LOL or ride the rails like a hobo yeah freedom there huh dummy

Marriage license is getting government permission and yes for everyone who marries they need it.while we are on the subject how much does the state get involved in your marriage or kids lives compared to 100 years ago?


yeah, NEXT

 

[ABikerSailor]

You don't think a central bank that makes the monetary policy of a country restricts individual freedom? You don't think taxes measure into personal freedom? LOL you must live with your parents and don't pay any

It Is Illegal to Collect Rainwater in These States | Water Filter Authority

Collecting rainwater isn't as simple as it would seem. Read this in-depth guide to know in which states is it illegal to collect rainwater in!

waterfilterauthority.com

Again you think having to get something prescribed from a doctor = being able to get it yourself

Flying or Driving you need a license. Or just hitchhike like you suggest LOL or ride the rails like a hobo yeah freedom there huh dummy

Marriage license is getting government permission and yes for everyone who marries they need it

NEXT

Actually, I've paid taxes since I turned 18 and was serving in the U.S. Navy. The military took taxes out of my check before I even saw it. Same with my military retirement. I pay taxes on that as well. As far as taxes measuring into my personal freedom? Haven't seen any of my freedoms that have been restricted because of them.

As far as your rainwater link? It specifically states that it's LOCAL laws, and that there are no federal laws restricting the collection of rainwater. And it also states that in most places in this country, it is still okay to collect it.

You can still order many medicines through the mail, even if you can't do it via Sears. And, yeah, when it comes to controlled substances, you do need a doctor for that, but that has been true for most of the time in this country. Federal regulations determine what is and isn't controlled, and that's actually determined by what the voters think is good or not. Remember, at one time, alcohol was illegal in this country because a large section of the country thought that making it illegal was a good thing, but they soon rethought their stance on it and made it legal again. At one time, marijuana was legal to smoke and have, but then it was made illegal because of Anslinger (look it up sometime) because a lot of people bought into his scare tactics and bullshit about it. However, marijuana is starting to become legal again. Hey! There's a right that we haven't had since around 1939, and we're getting it back!

For driving, yes, you do need a license but that's because you are operating fairly heavy machinery, but not for flying. If you get a Real ID, you can use that to fly if you want, and they don't cost that much. Matter of fact, as long as you have a US birth certificate and 15 dollars or so (depending on the state) you can get one without any trouble.

And no..............you don't need a license to get married via common law. Simply live under the same roof as them for the required amount of time, declare yourselves to be married, and volia.............you're married. They even issue a marriage certificate and everything without requiring the license to do so.

So again I ask.....................what freedoms have you lost in the past 100 years or so? You haven't provided any yet.

 

[Rust_Cohle]

Actually, I've paid taxes since I turned 18 and was serving in the U.S. Navy. The military took taxes out of my check before I even saw it. Same with my military retirement. I pay taxes on that as well. As far as taxes measuring into my personal freedom? Haven't seen any of my freedoms that have been restricted because of them.

As far as your rainwater link? It specifically states that it's LOCAL laws, and that there are no federal laws restricting the collection of rainwater. And it also states that in most places in this country, it is still okay to collect it.

You can still order many medicines through the mail, even if you can't do it via Sears. And, yeah, when it comes to controlled substances, you do need a doctor for that, but that has been true for most of the time in this country. Federal regulations determine what is and isn't controlled, and that's actually determined by what the voters think is good or not. Remember, at one time, alcohol was illegal in this country because a large section of the country thought that making it illegal was a good thing, but they soon rethought their stance on it and made it legal again. At one time, marijuana was legal to smoke and have, but then it was made illegal because of Anslinger (look it up sometime) because a lot of people bought into his scare tactics and bullshit about it. However, marijuana is starting to become legal again. Hey! There's a right that we haven't had since around 1939, and we're getting it back!

For driving, yes, you do need a license but that's because you are operating fairly heavy machinery, but not for flying. If you get a Real ID, you can use that to fly if you want, and they don't cost that much. Matter of fact, as long as you have a US birth certificate and 15 dollars or so (depending on the state) you can get one without any trouble.

And no..............you don't need a license to get married via common law. Simply live under the same roof as them for the required amount of time, declare yourselves to be married, and volia.............you're married. They even issue a marriage certificate and everything without requiring the license to do so.

So again I ask.....................what freedoms have you lost in the past 100 years or so? You haven't provided any yet.

Start a business and tell me taxes don't matter to your freedom now compare that to 100 years ago like you originally suggested

CA taxes people who MOVE OUT

Tax Alerts

Many believe moving from California will save significant taxes for both the individual and their business. Relocating has many complex tax issues and may not result in tax savings. Careful analysis is required.

www.hcvt.com

Do you think that was a law 100 years ago?


Laws are still laws are they not? Do you think that was a law 100 years ago?

Federal Regulations there you go, do you think there were federal regulations on those substances 100 years ago or not?

Driving or flying or any other mode of travel do you think there was license needed for those 100 years ago?

You keep going back to common law which is your way of moving the goal post. For most marriages you need a license so yeah did you need one 100 years ago? Do you think the government was as involved in the life of married couples as they are today yes or no?

Or do you wanna move goal posts some more or come up with more "common law" bullshit

 

[ABikerSailor]

Start a business and tell me taxes don't matter to your freedom now compare that to 100 years ago like you originally suggested

CA taxes people who MOVE OUT

Tax Alerts

Many believe moving from California will save significant taxes for both the individual and their business. Relocating has many complex tax issues and may not result in tax savings. Careful analysis is required.

www.hcvt.com

Do you think that was a law 100 years ago?


Laws are still laws are they not? Do you think that was a law 100 years ago?

Federal Regulations there you go, do you think there were federal regulations on those substances 100 years ago or not?

Driving or flying or any other mode of travel do you think there was license needed for those 100 years ago?

You keep going back to common law which is your way of moving the goal post. For most marriages you need a license so yeah did you need one 100 years ago? Do you think the government was as involved in the life of married couples as they are today yes or no?

Or do you wanna move goal posts some more or come up with more "common law" bullshit

If you keep the majority of your business in CA, but change your domicile to another state, and you are deriving most of your income from your business STILL IN CA, CA can tax what you make in that state. Where you live doesn't really matter, it matters where you make your money at. It even says as much in your link, as well as says that building another customer base in another location can be hard, which is why most businesses leave their primary income stream in CA where they started it. If the business was to move out of CA, as well as start their income stream in another state, CA wouldn't be able to tax them. You are only telling half truths on that count.

As far as the federal regulations on things? 100 years ago they didn't know about many of the effects of those substances (cocaine for instance), but as more research was done on the effects of that substance (good as well as the bad) and they learned more about it, regulations came into effect because that is what the majority of the people wanted.

Driving didn't require a license 100 years ago, because there weren't that many cars. As they came into common use, people decided that regulations needed to be installed since they were becoming common use, and that is why there are now license requirements to drive a car. Same thing with aircraft. If you want to pilot one, you need to know how to operate it, which is why you need a pilot's license. HOWEVER................up until recent times, you could pretty much buy a plane ticket and go wherever you wanted to in this country and didn't have to show any ID. When I went from Montana (where I lived) to Orlando FL (where I went to boot camp) back in 1982, I didn't have to show any ID, just my plane ticket. Terrorists started to hijack aircraft, and slowly people wanted to know who was flying and where to, which is why you now need to show ID to get on an aircraft. 9/11 had a great deal to do with that.

And yeah...............marriage licenses have pretty much been required since the beginning of this country. Common law is one way to get around that, and civil marriage (not requiring a church ceremony) didn't come about until 1963, so you could actually say that marriage has become much easier to obtain over the years. At one time, parts of the US didn't want to recognize common law marriage, but then they changed it back to allowing it. Mentioning common law isn't moving the goalposts, by the way.

Marriage license - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

History[edit]​

For most of Western history, marriage was a private contract between two families. Until the 16th century, Christian churches accepted the validity of a marriage on the basis of a couple’s declarations. If two people claimed that they had exchanged marital vows, even without witnesses, the Catholic Church accepted that they were validly married.[citation needed]



Some states in the US hold that public cohabitation can be sufficient evidence of a valid marriage. Marriage license application records from government authorities are widely available starting from the mid-19th century. Some are available dating from the 17th century in colonial America.[1] Marriage licenses have been required since 1639 in Massachusetts, with their use gradually expanding to other jurisdictions.[2]

United States[edit]​

In the United States, until the mid-19th century, common-law marriages were recognized as valid, but thereafter some states began to invalidate common-law marriages. Common-law marriages, if recognized by law, are valid, notwithstanding the absence of a marriage license; this becomes an issue in the settlement of decedents' estates. North Carolina and Tennessee (which was originally western North Carolina) never recognized marriage at the common law as valid without a license unless entered into in other states. They have always recognized otherwise valid marriages (except bigamous, polygamous, interracial, or same-sex) entered into in conformity with the law of other states, territories and nations.[citation needed]

The specifications for obtaining a marriage license vary between states. In general, however, both parties must appear in person at the time the license is obtained; be of marriageable age (i.e., over 18 years; lower in some states with the consent of a parent); present proper identification (typically a driver's license, state ID card, birth certificate or passport; more documentation may be required for those born outside of the United States); and neither must be married to anyone else (proof of spouse's death or divorce may be required for someone who had been previously married in some states).

The US states of Louisiana, Florida, Connecticut, Wisconsin, Indiana, Oklahoma, Massachusetts, Mississippi, California, New York,[4][5] and the District of Columbia once required blood tests before issuing a marriage license, but such requirements have since been abolished. The tests were mainly used to check for previous or current bouts of syphilis and rubella (German measles); other diseases that have been screened for before marriage in some cases have included tuberculosis, gonorrhea, and HIV, the last of which is the only one of those three that is detectable using a blood test.[5]

Many states require 1 to 6 days to pass between the granting of the license and the marriage ceremony. After the marriage ceremony, both spouses and the officiant sign the marriage license (some states also require one or two witnesses). The officiant or couple then files for a certified copy of the marriage license and a marriage certificate with the appropriate authority. Some states also have a requirement that a license be filed within a certain time after its issuance, typically 30 or 60 days, following which a new license must be obtained.

Marriage licenses in the United States fall under the jurisdiction of the state in which the ceremony is performed; however, the marriage is generally recognized across the country. The state in which they are married holds the record of that marriage. Traditionally, working with law enforcement was the only means of searching and accessing marriage license information across state lines.[6]

 

[Rust_Cohle]

If you keep the majority of your business in CA, but change your domicile to another state, and you are deriving most of your income from your business STILL IN CA, CA can tax what you make in that state. Where you live doesn't really matter, it matters where you make your money at. It even says as much in your link, as well as says that building another customer base in another location can be hard, which is why most businesses leave their primary income stream in CA where they started it. If the business was to move out of CA, as well as start their income stream in another state, CA wouldn't be able to tax them. You are only telling half truths on that count.

As far as the federal regulations on things? 100 years ago they didn't know about many of the effects of those substances (cocaine for instance), but as more research was done on the effects of that substance (good as well as the bad) and they learned more about it, regulations came into effect because that is what the majority of the people wanted.

Driving didn't require a license 100 years ago, because there weren't that many cars. As they came into common use, people decided that regulations needed to be installed since they were becoming common use, and that is why there are now license requirements to drive a car. Same thing with aircraft. If you want to pilot one, you need to know how to operate it, which is why you need a pilot's license. HOWEVER................up until recent times, you could pretty much buy a plane ticket and go wherever you wanted to in this country and didn't have to show any ID. When I went from Montana (where I lived) to Orlando FL (where I went to boot camp) back in 1982, I didn't have to show any ID, just my plane ticket. Terrorists started to hijack aircraft, and slowly people wanted to know who was flying and where to, which is why you now need to show ID to get on an aircraft. 9/11 had a great deal to do with that.

And yeah...............marriage licenses have pretty much been required since the beginning of this country. Common law is one way to get around that, and civil marriage (not requiring a church ceremony) didn't come about until 1963, so you could actually say that marriage has become much easier to obtain over the years. At one time, parts of the US didn't want to recognize common law marriage, but then they changed it back to allowing it. Mentioning common law isn't moving the goalposts, by the way.

Marriage license - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

History[edit]​

For most of Western history, marriage was a private contract between two families. Until the 16th century, Christian churches accepted the validity of a marriage on the basis of a couple’s declarations. If two people claimed that they had exchanged marital vows, even without witnesses, the Catholic Church accepted that they were validly married.[citation needed]



Some states in the US hold that public cohabitation can be sufficient evidence of a valid marriage. Marriage license application records from government authorities are widely available starting from the mid-19th century. Some are available dating from the 17th century in colonial America.[1] Marriage licenses have been required since 1639 in Massachusetts, with their use gradually expanding to other jurisdictions.[2]

United States[edit]​

In the United States, until the mid-19th century, common-law marriages were recognized as valid, but thereafter some states began to invalidate common-law marriages. Common-law marriages, if recognized by law, are valid, notwithstanding the absence of a marriage license; this becomes an issue in the settlement of decedents' estates. North Carolina and Tennessee (which was originally western North Carolina) never recognized marriage at the common law as valid without a license unless entered into in other states. They have always recognized otherwise valid marriages (except bigamous, polygamous, interracial, or same-sex) entered into in conformity with the law of other states, territories and nations.[citation needed]

The specifications for obtaining a marriage license vary between states. In general, however, both parties must appear in person at the time the license is obtained; be of marriageable age (i.e., over 18 years; lower in some states with the consent of a parent); present proper identification (typically a driver's license, state ID card, birth certificate or passport; more documentation may be required for those born outside of the United States); and neither must be married to anyone else (proof of spouse's death or divorce may be required for someone who had been previously married in some states).

The US states of Louisiana, Florida, Connecticut, Wisconsin, Indiana, Oklahoma, Massachusetts, Mississippi, California, New York,[4][5] and the District of Columbia once required blood tests before issuing a marriage license, but such requirements have since been abolished. The tests were mainly used to check for previous or current bouts of syphilis and rubella (German measles); other diseases that have been screened for before marriage in some cases have included tuberculosis, gonorrhea, and HIV, the last of which is the only one of those three that is detectable using a blood test.[5]

Many states require 1 to 6 days to pass between the granting of the license and the marriage ceremony. After the marriage ceremony, both spouses and the officiant sign the marriage license (some states also require one or two witnesses). The officiant or couple then files for a certified copy of the marriage license and a marriage certificate with the appropriate authority. Some states also have a requirement that a license be filed within a certain time after its issuance, typically 30 or 60 days, following which a new license must be obtained.

Marriage licenses in the United States fall under the jurisdiction of the state in which the ceremony is performed; however, the marriage is generally recognized across the country. The state in which they are married holds the record of that marriage. Traditionally, working with law enforcement was the only means of searching and accessing marriage license information across state lines.[6]

Thanks admitting, in the long way, we had more freedom 100 years ago

You lose

 

[Cellblock2429]

Donald H is lower than merely not knowing shit about our country.

Do not let it be forgotten that Canaduh was founded on groveling an cowering before the same tyrant against whom we Americans violently rebelled in order to found our country. A cretin from Canaduh has little more standing to tell us Americans about our country than a certain one-legged British faggot has.

/----/ And 200 years ago we tried to annex what is now Ontario.

How U.S. Forces Failed to Conquer Canada 200 Years Ago

The United States’ invasion of Canada 200 years ago went awry from the start.

www.history.com

 

[ABikerSailor]

Thanks admitting, in the long way, we had more freedom 100 years ago

You lose

Didn't admit any such thing. And I ask you yet again, what freedoms specifically have we lost over the past 100 years? And, I guess you missed that marriage has actually become more permissive and all inclusive over the years.

 

[Rust_Cohle]

Didn't admit any such thing. And I ask you yet again, what freedoms specifically have we lost over the past 100 years? And, I guess you missed that marriage has actually become more permissive and all inclusive over the years.

And the State is more involved in your life if you have kids today than 100 years ago yes or no

And you did admit it

You lose

 

[ABikerSailor]

And the State is more involved in your life if you have kids today than 100 years ago yes or no

And you did admit it

You lose

Didn't lose squat, you still have yet to show what freedoms we have lost in this nation over the past 100 years. And, if you are trying to say that it's because of the regulations that have been implemented over the years because we learned more about how things work, like cars and airplanes, that's not the government that did that, it's the people who asked for it because they knew those things could be dangerous. BTW.......marriage has become much more accessible and more inclusive for more people over the years. Our rights to marriage and who we can choose as a mate have expanded greatly. Did you know that just a short while ago in this country, it was illegal for a white person to marry a black one? Gay people can even get married now in many states, and that was something that was forbidden until very recently.

 

[Rust_Cohle]

Didn't lose squat, you still have yet to show what freedoms we have lost in this nation over the past 100 years. And, if you are trying to say that it's because of the regulations that have been implemented over the years because we learned more about how things work, like cars and airplanes, that's not the government that did that, it's the people who asked for it because they knew those things could be dangerous. BTW.......marriage has become much more accessible and more inclusive for more people over the years. Our rights to marriage and who we can choose as a mate have expanded greatly. Did you know that just a short while ago in this country, it was illegal for a white person to marry a black one? Gay people can even get married now in many states, and that was something that was forbidden until very recently.

I showed plenty. Gay people still have to get permission through a license to get married like anyone else

You lose

 

[ABikerSailor]

I showed plenty. Gay people still have to get permission through a license to get married like anyone else

You lose

Keep telling yourself that, if that's what helps you sleep at night, but the reality is that we probably have MORE freedoms (legalization of marijuana, gays and mixed race couples can marry, you can travel freely between states, you can apply for whatever job you want regardless of racial descent, handicapped people have more access to jobs, etc.). You still haven't shown any freedoms that we have lost, but if the fear mongering helps you maintain your sanity, have at it.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

A chilling story.

This motning there was a constable outside the post office and I thought that I would test my FREEDOM.

I walked right up to him and silently recited the Lords Prayer. I got no reaction from him at all. Probably because he was eating a pie.

So I started singing a hymn, "All things bright and beautiful", to see if I would be dragged off to the cells. Again no reaction.

I rather think that they have been warned off on this one following the public outcry.

I went up to him and asked what he was doing here. He told me that some of the local youngsters have been annoying the ducks on the pond. Hmmmph !!

Thats a poor cover story. I am positive he was spying on us for the deep state.

"Have a good day Darren", I said. "And yourself Mr Tainant" he replied, as cool as you like.

Should I buy a gun ?

 

[Tommy Tainant]

Thanks admitting, in the long way, we had more freedom 100 years ago

You lose

How often do you want to get married ?

 

[ABikerSailor]

How often do you waant to get married ?

If Rust Cohle is bitching about freedom to marry, he needs to realize that more people are allowed to marry nowadays. People can now marry others of different races (didn't used to be the case) as well as the fact that gay people can now be married in most states as well as the military.