With 94 million Americans Out of the Work Force, Why Do We Have 25 Million Foreign Guest Workers?

[HereWeGoAgain]

The problem with both examples is they are not the norm.
Public education centers are nothing but indoctrination centers for the left,they dont teach anything useful.

What a ridiculous claim.

Some hyperbole, but the public educational system spends too much time indoctrinating and teaching to pass performance tests instead of teaching useful facts and how to think critically.

Explain this indoctrinating. Shouldn't they be able to pass performance tests?

There have been countless posts on this board showing the means of indoctrination.
What is it with liberals and information retention?

It is how they "debate".


Proof by assertion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Proof by assertion, sometimes informally referred to as proof by repeated assertion, is an informal fallacy in which a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction.[1] Sometimes, this may be repeated until challenges dry up, at which point it is asserted as fact due to its not being contradicted (argumentum ad nauseam).[2] In other cases, its repetition may be cited as evidence of its truth, in a variant of the appeal to authority or appeal to belief fallacies"


They are assholes like that.

Nailed it!

 

[JimBowie1958]

Explain this indoctrinating.

OK, here is one of a great many. Our children are taught that, in effect, there are no objective Truths any more, and thus no absolute standards of conduct or behavior other than to tolerate all forms of behavior, which seems fairly irrational, and it is. Avoiding being judgmental is among the new secular Seven Virtues, except they dont acknowledge any explicit virtues. It is part of the Post-Modern philosophy that is ubiquitous in our teaching profession.

I have actually have had some educators defend the Aztecs for engaging in human sacrifice because it is judgmental and implies our own culture is superior. I replied that of course our culture is superior to those cultures that engage in human sacrifice and the moron just walked away, lol.

Shouldn't they be able to pass performance tests?

Their education should not be centered on passing performance tests.

 

[sealybobo]

We have over 94 million Americans out of the work force.
Labor Force Participation Rate Dropped to 62.8% In April: 94,044,000 Out

The number of Americans not in the labor force last month totaled 94,044,000, 562,000 more than in March -- and the labor force participation rate dropped to 62.8 percent (near a 38-year low), following four straight months of slight improvement.

When President Obama took office in Janaury 2009, the labor force partipation rate was 65.7 percent, after hovering in the 66-67 percent range for much of the George W. Bush presidency.

The recession inherited by the Obama administration officially ended in June 2009, but the labor force participation rate continued to drop during Obama's two terms, hitting 62.4 percent in September 2015, its lowest point in 38 years.

While 25 million foreign born workers are here on guest worker visas, and this includes the illegal black market labor.
Foreign-Born Employment in U.S. Dips Slightly from Record, Still At 25,460,000 - Breitbart
The number of foreign-born people employed in the United States dipped slightly last month compared to the record high set in March, but remained above 25 million mark, according to data released Friday by the Bureau of Labor Statistics.
The BLS reports that 25,460,000 foreign-born people had a job in the U.S. during the month of April, a decrease of 281,000 compared to the month of March when a record 25,741,000 foreign-born people were employed in the U.S.

The BLS does not distinguish between legal and illegal immigrants, defining the foreign-born as:

Those residing in the United States who were not U.S. citizens at birth. That is, they were born outside the United States or one of its outlying areas such as Puerto Rico or Guam, to parents neither of whom was a U.S. citizen. The native born are persons who were born in the United States or one of its outlying areas such as Puerto Rico or Guam or who were born abroad of at least one parent who was a U.S. citizen.

And in this situation, we have declining job growth.
U.S. jobs growth slows down in April
Companies scaled back hiring in April, adding just 160,000 new jobs, in a sign the U.S. economy still hasn’t recovered from an early-year chill.

The April jobs report was well below Wall Street’s expectations. Economists polled by MarketWatch had forecast a 203,000 increase in nonfarm jobs.

The unemployment rate, meanwhile, was flat at 5%. More people dropped out of the labor force and the so-called participation rate fell for the first time in seven months. That could mean people find it a bit harder to get a job.

So WHY ARE WE BRINGING IN MORE GUEST WORKERS WHEN AMERICANS CANT GET TRAINED AND HIRED FOR THESE JOBS INSTEAD?

BECAUSE CORPORATIONS AVE BOUGHT OUR GOVERNMENT, IN MANY CASES USING MONEY WE GAVE TO BIG BANKS IN$5 TRILLION IN BANK HANDOUTS.

We gave $5 trillion to the banks, huge bailouts to various corporations and debt simply wiped off the books, and yet where are the bailouts for regular Middle Class Americans? We are paying these predatory mortgages still today, while the predators are still snorting coke and buying whores on Wall Street with that tax payer money that was then doled to them in huge million dollar bonuses. And it is wrong to raise their taxes, why? So they drug dealers and whores can stay in ridiculous wealth?

Where are the protesting Libertarian Traitors who throw a snit fit every time anyone proposes helping Americans? They love give a-ways to corporate America, because they are wannabe corporate pirates who hope one day to feast on the carcasses of their fellow Americans also, just like they see corporations doing today.

This has to end, folks. And if neocons like 'Paul Ryan the Sellout' dont like it, then throw the bastards out.

Because those 90 million people out of work are qualified to do landscaping or factory work. Are the jobs available today landscaping and factory work? NO? Then don't ask stupid questions.

If college kids graduate with a degree in the field employers are looking for, are those employers going to hire them without experience?

You know a lot of companies pay for college if you stay with them for 2 or 3 or 5 years?

How much do these jobs pay?

 

[sealybobo]

Explain this indoctrinating.

OK, here is one of a great many. Our children are taught that, in effect, there are no objective Truths any more, and thus no absolute standards of conduct or behavior other than to tolerate all forms of behavior, which seems fairly irrational, and it is. Avoiding being judgmental is among the new secular Seven Virtues, except they dont acknowledge any explicit virtues. It is part of the Post-Modern philosophy that is ubiquitous in our teaching profession.

I have actually have had some educators defend the Aztecs for engaging in human sacrifice because it is judgmental and implies our own culture is superior. I replied that of course our culture is superior to those cultures that engage in human sacrifice and the moron just walked away, lol.

Shouldn't they be able to pass performance tests?

Their education should not be centered on passing performance tests.

You said, "there are no objective Truths any more, and thus no absolute standards of conduct or behavior other than to tolerate all forms of behavior"

Why is that irrational? Can you give me a real world example where this is causing problems?

 

[Brain357]

Explain this indoctrinating.

OK, here is one of a great many. Our children are taught that, in effect, there are no objective Truths any more, and thus no absolute standards of conduct or behavior other than to tolerate all forms of behavior, which seems fairly irrational, and it is. Avoiding being judgmental is among the new secular Seven Virtues, except they dont acknowledge any explicit virtues. It is part of the Post-Modern philosophy that is ubiquitous in our teaching profession.

I have actually have had some educators defend the Aztecs for engaging in human sacrifice because it is judgmental and implies our own culture is superior. I replied that of course our culture is superior to those cultures that engage in human sacrifice and the moron just walked away, lol.

Shouldn't they be able to pass performance tests?

Their education should not be centered on passing performance tests.

I'm not aware of any teachers promoting human sacrifice. You can't label them all because there are a few weirdos.

Shouldn't they have to perform? If they can't pass tests how do we know they are learning anything?

 

[OldLady]

How about Apple, Droid, and the remaining auto industry that is still loyal to the American people?

We STILL have the highest production of any nation on Earth and Americans are THE most efficient work force in the world also.

The problem with both examples is they are not the norm.
Public education centers are nothing but indoctrination centers for the left,they dont teach anything useful.

What a ridiculous claim.

Some hyperbole, but the public educational system spends too much time indoctrinating and teaching to pass performance tests instead of teaching useful facts and how to think critically.

Explain this indoctrinating. Shouldn't they be able to pass performance tests?

There have been countless posts on this board showing the means of indoctrination.
What is it with liberals and information retention?

This is off topic, but let me point out that teaching facts you disagree with does not equal indoctrination.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The problem with both examples is they are not the norm.
Public education centers are nothing but indoctrination centers for the left,they dont teach anything useful.

What a ridiculous claim.

Some hyperbole, but the public educational system spends too much time indoctrinating and teaching to pass performance tests instead of teaching useful facts and how to think critically.

Explain this indoctrinating. Shouldn't they be able to pass performance tests?

There have been countless posts on this board showing the means of indoctrination.
What is it with liberals and information retention?

This is off topic, but let me point out that teaching facts you disagree with does not equal indoctrination.

Bullshit.

 

[OldLady]

What a ridiculous claim.

Some hyperbole, but the public educational system spends too much time indoctrinating and teaching to pass performance tests instead of teaching useful facts and how to think critically.

Explain this indoctrinating. Shouldn't they be able to pass performance tests?

There have been countless posts on this board showing the means of indoctrination.
What is it with liberals and information retention?

This is off topic, but let me point out that teaching facts you disagree with does not equal indoctrination.

Bullshit.

How so?
I have to go, but I will be eager to know what topics you feel are being taught in a less than factual or responsible way?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Some hyperbole, but the public educational system spends too much time indoctrinating and teaching to pass performance tests instead of teaching useful facts and how to think critically.

Explain this indoctrinating. Shouldn't they be able to pass performance tests?

There have been countless posts on this board showing the means of indoctrination.
What is it with liberals and information retention?

This is off topic, but let me point out that teaching facts you disagree with does not equal indoctrination.

Bullshit.

How so?
I have to go, but I will be eager to know what topics you feel are being taught in a less than factual or responsible way?

Thousands of School Districts Caught Indoctrinating Students – The Purdue Review

School Parents Outraged After Planned Parenthood Caught Indoctrinating Kids With The Genderbread Person

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/...g-students-with-so-much-teaching-about-islam/

Get 'Em While They're Young: Promoting Homosexuality In Public Schools

District gags 14-year-olds after ‘gay’ indoctrination

LGBT-Inclusive Curriculum | GLSEN

Why Address Gay Issues with Children

California schools scrambling to add lessons on LGBT Americans

I could go on but my fingers are cramping up....

 

[Brain357]

Explain this indoctrinating. Shouldn't they be able to pass performance tests?

There have been countless posts on this board showing the means of indoctrination.
What is it with liberals and information retention?

This is off topic, but let me point out that teaching facts you disagree with does not equal indoctrination.

Bullshit.

How so?
I have to go, but I will be eager to know what topics you feel are being taught in a less than factual or responsible way?

Thousands of School Districts Caught Indoctrinating Students – The Purdue Review

School Parents Outraged After Planned Parenthood Caught Indoctrinating Kids With The Genderbread Person

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/...g-students-with-so-much-teaching-about-islam/

Get 'Em While They're Young: Promoting Homosexuality In Public Schools

District gags 14-year-olds after ‘gay’ indoctrination

LGBT-Inclusive Curriculum | GLSEN

Why Address Gay Issues with Children

California schools scrambling to add lessons on LGBT Americans

I could go on but my fingers are cramping up....

So you are talking about stuff discussed briefly and ignored by kids?

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

There have been countless posts on this board showing the means of indoctrination.
What is it with liberals and information retention?

This is off topic, but let me point out that teaching facts you disagree with does not equal indoctrination.

Bullshit.

How so?
I have to go, but I will be eager to know what topics you feel are being taught in a less than factual or responsible way?

Thousands of School Districts Caught Indoctrinating Students – The Purdue Review

School Parents Outraged After Planned Parenthood Caught Indoctrinating Kids With The Genderbread Person

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/...g-students-with-so-much-teaching-about-islam/

Get 'Em While They're Young: Promoting Homosexuality In Public Schools

District gags 14-year-olds after ‘gay’ indoctrination

LGBT-Inclusive Curriculum | GLSEN

Why Address Gay Issues with Children

California schools scrambling to add lessons on LGBT Americans

I could go on but my fingers are cramping up....

So you are talking about stuff discussed briefly and ignored by kids?

And how do you know how long they spent on any particular subject?
Not that it really matters mind you.

 

[Brain357]

This is off topic, but let me point out that teaching facts you disagree with does not equal indoctrination.

Bullshit.

How so?
I have to go, but I will be eager to know what topics you feel are being taught in a less than factual or responsible way?

Thousands of School Districts Caught Indoctrinating Students – The Purdue Review

School Parents Outraged After Planned Parenthood Caught Indoctrinating Kids With The Genderbread Person

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/...g-students-with-so-much-teaching-about-islam/

Get 'Em While They're Young: Promoting Homosexuality In Public Schools

District gags 14-year-olds after ‘gay’ indoctrination

LGBT-Inclusive Curriculum | GLSEN

Why Address Gay Issues with Children

California schools scrambling to add lessons on LGBT Americans

I could go on but my fingers are cramping up....

So you are talking about stuff discussed briefly and ignored by kids?

And how do you know how long they spent on any particular subject?
Not that it really matters mind you.

Well they haven't replaced math with lgbt studies. It upset you that they don't pretend gay people don't exist?

 

[Indeependent]

Ya got anything more current?

How about Apple, Droid, and the remaining auto industry that is still loyal to the American people?

We STILL have the highest production of any nation on Earth and Americans are THE most efficient work force in the world also.

The problem with both examples is they are not the norm.
Public education centers are nothing but indoctrination centers for the left,they dont teach anything useful.

What a ridiculous claim.

Some hyperbole, but the public educational system spends too much time indoctrinating and teaching to pass performance tests instead of teaching useful facts and how to think critically.

Explain this indoctrinating. Shouldn't they be able to pass performance tests?

H1-Bs are hired without being interviewed.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Bullshit.

How so?
I have to go, but I will be eager to know what topics you feel are being taught in a less than factual or responsible way?

Thousands of School Districts Caught Indoctrinating Students – The Purdue Review

School Parents Outraged After Planned Parenthood Caught Indoctrinating Kids With The Genderbread Person

http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/...g-students-with-so-much-teaching-about-islam/

Get 'Em While They're Young: Promoting Homosexuality In Public Schools

District gags 14-year-olds after ‘gay’ indoctrination

LGBT-Inclusive Curriculum | GLSEN

Why Address Gay Issues with Children

California schools scrambling to add lessons on LGBT Americans

I could go on but my fingers are cramping up....

So you are talking about stuff discussed briefly and ignored by kids?

And how do you know how long they spent on any particular subject?
Not that it really matters mind you.

Well they haven't replaced math with lgbt studies. It upset you that they don't pretend gay people don't exist?

It's not the schools job to push social issues...Period!!!

 

[longknife]

I love how quickly these threads descend into pure garbage.

 

[BlueGin]

With 94 million Americans Out of the Work Force, Why Do We Have 25 Million Foreign Guest Workers?

Our educational system has made Americans only capable of flipping burgers, that's why.

Our liberal education system

 

[JimBowie1958]

I'm not aware of any teachers promoting human sacrifice. You can't label them all because there are a few weirdos.

They did not promote human sacrifice, but only insisted it was judgmental of me to condemn it.

Shouldn't they have to perform? If they can't pass tests how do we know they are learning anything?

Again, I dont think that national organized and defined tests should dominate our schools curriculum the way it has.

 

[EverCurious]

Our education system is fucked, I'm not quite ready to blame it on liberals so much as the whole "no child left behind" bullshit. Kids need to learn to emotionally deal with failures and pick themselves back up to succeed. This is not being taught and it's creating a real mess /everywhere/, not just the job market, but society, politics, everywhere.

Unfortunately, it's too late. There's no resolution for this mistake either the country figures out the problem, buckles down, and fixes it, or we continue falling apart.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Our education system is fucked, I'm not quite ready to blame it on liberals so much as the whole "no child left behind" bullshit. Kids need to learn to emotionally deal with failures and pick themselves back up to succeed. This is not being taught and it's creating a real mess /everywhere/, not just the job market, but society, politics, everywhere.

Unfortunately, it's too late. There's no resolution for this mistake either the country figures out the problem, buckles down, and fixes it, or we continue falling apart.

Take control of our schools from the Federali's and return it to the local school district.

 

[EverCurious]

It's too late for that, the shits already grew up and they /will/ be taking control of the government. Our only hope is that they idiots can muster the internal fortitude to run their own businesses and work hard to succeed in them, then they'll see how the real world works and start to understand exactly /why/ income gaps exist, why society isn't 'fair' to all men, and how finances work. It's a long shot, but it's all there is.

40% of this country has gone socialist; huge red flag that you better make alternative plans for /your/ future if you have /any/ money at all.