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MAR. 27, 2006: NOW IS THE TIME FOR ALL GOOD MEN ...
My forebodings of a year ago seem to be taking on my reality every day: Immigration truly is emerging as an issue that can shatter the Republican party. The president is determined to thrust upon the party an amnesty/guestworker approach that is opposed by the overwhelming majority of the Republican rank-and-file. He has come to believe - and tells visitors to the White House - that party opposition to him is based on irrational fear, ignorance, and prejudice. (Just like Dubai! Or for that matter, Harriet Miers.)
If anything were calculated to solidify the perception that this administration scorns the values and concerns of the ordinary Republican - if anything were designed to discourage ordinary Republican from turning out in November 2006 - it is what this administration is doing now. At a moment when the president needs his maximum strength to see his foreign policy through to success, he is gambling everything on a wager he cannot win. His version of immigration reform can only pass Congress with Democratic votes, and there is zero possibiilty that the Democrats will help him - but every likelihood that they will egg him on to incite a Republican civil war on the issue that most bitterly divides the president's party.
07:23 AM
gop_jeff said:Newt's immigration policy not to your liking?
Kathianne said:Right now it looks like the Dems are going to have to work overtime in order to salvage failure from the jaws of victory:
http://frum.nationalreview.com/archives/03272006.asp#093392
Pale Rider said:Bush is off his rocker. On immigration, port deals, and other things. I'm wishing I hadn't have voted for him, for real.
And I won't be voting for Jeb Bush for President if that ever materializes. I've had enough of the Bush dynasty. Get 'em the hell otta there.
dilloduck said:i'm not sure but L.A. might implode unless the Hispanics can corral what's left of the weekend "protestors" who are presently doing whatever they can to block traffic in L.A.
William Joyce said:Agreed.
I voted for "41", my first voting-age election, damn proud to vote for a Republican on my maiden voyage. I then voted for Dole. I then voted for George W., in 2000. By the time '04 rolled around, I was damn peed at him an didn't bother voting for president (though I was living in Brooklyn, so it wouldn't have made much of a difference). I could have voted for Ted Kennedy and got more of a conservative.
Like Hank Hill says of Ronald Reagan, "I miss voting for that man."
OCA said:Well what exactly is Mr. Irrelevent's policy anyway? I for one happen to agree with the prez's approach.
gop_jeff said:Bush's 'virtual amnesty' program?? Please. That's why immigration is such an issue in the first place - the current leadership doesn't take it seriously.
OCA said:Problem is is that you guys are closing the barn door after the cows have gotten out. Now i'm all for sealing the border but i'm a realist and the reality is is you will never ever be able to deport all if any of illegals currently already in country, its logistically and financially impossible. so why not make em citizens, seal the border and put this divisive issue to rest before you destroy what is left of the GOP and let the Demos slip back into power. I know its a bitter pill to swallow but there is no other way.
And by the way, could you please tell me, can anyone tell me why immigration has not been an issue up until now since they have been coming over in the same numbers for decades now?
dilloduck said:Seal the border? Fat chance--the Mexicans own it. Accept it--the war is all but over.
Bullypulpit said:Will the immigration issue cause the GOP to implode?...One can only hope.
Any Republican running for office is treating Dubbyuh like he's toxic waste. An Congressional Republican's are going to have a hard time distancing themselves from the Bush policies they've so cheerfully rubber-stamped for the last six years. The GOP is already eating its own. As I stand by and watch the carnage, I, almost, feel sorry for them.
dilloduck said:Pay attention, Bully. Liberals live in the same country as conservatives. You think you're somehow immune to the consequences?
Bullypulpit said:<blockquote>Had "Goatboy" Clinton actually been looking out for the good of the nation instead of his next BJ, there would have been clauses to strengthen labor law and environmental protections added to NAFTA. Raise the boat for everyone instead of engaging in the race to the bottom we are now caught up in with governments south of the border.
You want to stop illegal immigration, start at the source.</blockquote>
From Mr.P's thread <a href=http://www.usmessageboard.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30466>Wake up AMERICA!</a>
Bullypulpit said:Will the immigration issue cause the GOP to implode?...One can only hope.
Any Republican running for office is treating Dubbyuh like he's toxic waste. And Congressional Republican's are going to have a hard time distancing themselves from the Bush policies they've so cheerfully rubber-stamped for the last six years. The GOP is already eating its own. As I stand by and watch the carnage, I, almost, feel sorry for them.
