Will Hispanic Voters Turn Red States Blue?

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  1. Mustang
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    There's been a lot acknowledgment that swing voters (Independents and groups other than traditional political supporters) will determine the outcome of this (and future) presidential election(s).

    To that end, it's usual for political parties to engage in outreach to swing voters by addressing issues that these groups find as a higher priority than the general electorate. After all, neither political party wants to be seen as tone deaf to a significantly large part of the electorate if that group could turn the election either for or against their candidate.

    But lately, many people have noted that the GOP seems to be alienating significant segments of the electorate (women and Hispanics, for example) in its shift to the right. It's even more pronounced this year since the GOP nomination process is dragging on and the GOP hopefuls are engaged in an extended appeal to the GOP conservative base.

    Well, it's one thing to bash unions when union membership numbers are down and still declining. But is it wise to alienate Hispanics which is the fastest growing segment of the population?

    So, here's the question: Will traditionally conservative red states see a shift to Democrats and become either blue or purple states in national elections because Democrats are doing a much better job of outreach to Hispanics?


     
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    Yeah. The GOP is missing out on a gigantic opportunity. Hispanics are working their asses off, and they are extremely family oriented. And they are deeply religious.

    In other words, Hispanics are everything the GOP is all about. Work ethic, mom, America, family, and faith.

    So okay, maybe they like their cinnamon on churros instead of apple pie, but COME ON! These people are almost perfect!

    But instead of going with demographics, the GOP goes with demagogues. The party paints immigrants with a huge brush as a bunch of illegals, drug smugglers, and job stealers.

    Stupid, stupid, stupid.

    Again.
     
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    Why do liberals feel the need to separate everyone into racial and cultural boxes? Hispanics and Latinos are AMERICANS first. They should vote for whatever is good for the country- and that means a secure border. Personally, I don't care if Republicans lose every election - doing the right thing is not always easy.
     
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    So what is your answer to illegal immigration? Do you think anyone should be able to come to the U.S.? Is it o.k to only obey the laws that you think are fair?
     
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    Arrogant liberals think they can lasso the Hispanic vote, like they do the Black vote, by lumping them all together. They get the Black conformity by tossing scraps from the table at them (in the form of welfare) and say the reason your down is the White Republicans. This farce is effective! They think they can do that via pro-illegal immigration by the Dimocrats.

    I remember finding an article that showed the districts that most strongly voted Reddest (I know not a word) in TX, NM and FL throughout the last few decades including the last two election were 90% hispanic. Leftist say Obama killed McCain with Latinos, but he won 60-40 in a VERY Democrat year! Good win but not the 95% win that Democrats get from Blacks and Jews.

    Hispanic can NOT be lumped into one category like Democrats do. Hispanics in IL, CA & NY vote very different than Hispanics in FL, TX & NM! Just as Whites vote very different in those states.

    You won't even see this in AZ where Democrats erroneous, but successfully labeled the GOP anti-Hispanic. I say a good GOP candidate still get 40% of the Hispanic vote in AZ and any President will get btw 30-40% (which is enough to win the state

    Dimcrats believe that Hispanic are all the same! Untrue and insulting. What is true is the fast growing segment of Small Business Owners are Hispanics!


     
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    Will they turn blue states red? Maybe the radical hispanic leadership forgot about Bubba Bill pardoning every FALN terrorist in NY prisons when his wife was running as a carpet bagger.
     
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    Why do conservatives blame everything on liberals?

    The FACT of the matter is that BOTH political parties engage in what is commonly known as market segmentation. Businesses do it too.
     
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    We had full employment before the global credit crisis. That means all those illegals that were here then were not stealing jobs. They were taking jobs that by their very nature are jobs Americans don't want to do. And this has been proven time and again when illegal immigrant crackdowns lead to crops rotting in the fields even though farmers raise wages well above minimum wage to attrace domestic employees.

    Migrant work, by definition, is not something someone is going to leave their suburban house every day to do.

    What all this means is that we are not meeting the labor demand with the right amount or right kind of labor supply.

    So the solution is screamingly obvious: We need to raise our work permit quotas.

    If you tell a farmer he can only hire five immigrants and he needs ten to harvest his crops, the answer is NOT to arrest the employer for hiring illegals. The answer is to provide the farmer with the workforce he needs.

    We are being incredibly stupid about the way we are going about this.
     
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    count people as citizens ,not minorities,we won't have minorities at all.But then your commenting on a political maneuver not whats right.
     
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    One of the few things George W. Bush got right was calling for increased immigrant worker permits. But he was opposed by stupid idiots in the GOP.

    We would totally own the Hispanic vote if we just got smart.
     

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