Details: Obama Socialist Party Membership

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    He joined in 1996, evidently.The "New Party" is a socialist/communist organization out of Chicago.

    America has been hoodwinked.


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    The NEW PARTY, now defunct, had LEFT wing opposition in the form of the Green Party. Where do you get "socialist" from.
     
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    Worst socialist ever.
     
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    This argument is along the lines of "Hitler can't be a socialist because he put communists in prison."

    It's just as stupid in both cases.
     
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    Try digging farther down than the headlines, toots.
    """"Obama gets involved
    Barack Obama clearly saw the potential of the New Party, because he was soon seeking their support -alongside Michael Chandler, Willie Delgado, Miguel del Valle, Alice Palmer, Sonya Sanchez and Jesse Garcia.[3]"""""

    The newspaper article exaggerates. No one seeking a state senate seat is going to join a wild card third-rail political party. They are either going to be a Dem or a Republican. No exceptions. But you're so freaking naive I think you'd believe something scribbled on a napkin as long as it was critical of Obama.



     
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    Many conservatives accuse Hitler of being a leftist, on the grounds that his party was named "National Socialist." But socialism requires worker ownership and control of the means of production. In Nazi Germany, private capitalist individuals owned the means of production, and they in turn were frequently controlled by the Nazi party and state. True socialism does not advocate such economic dictatorship -- it can only be democratic. Hitler's other political beliefs place him almost always on the far right. He advocated racism over racial tolerance, eugenics over freedom of reproduction, merit over equality, competition over cooperation, power politics and militarism over pacifism, dictatorship over democracy, capitalism over Marxism, realism over idealism, nationalism over internationalism, exclusiveness over inclusiveness, common sense over theory or science, pragmatism over principle, and even held friendly relations with the Church, even though he was an atheist.

    Myth: Hitler was a leftist
     
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    The President is not a Socialist. Calling for higher progressive taxes on the rich (ie a max out at 35% was it?) may be a cheap populous ploy to get reelected that won't solve any real problems, but it certainly doesn’t make Obama a socialist. Calling for a 30%ish tax rate on capital gains does not make you a socialist. Calling for Government run Healthcare that still has many aspects run by private insurers does not make you a socialist.

    Until Obama starts forcing every employer in the united states to start redistributing its profits equally amongst the employees who produce, or until he calls for maybe an 80-90% tax rate on the richest Americans so that it can be redistributed by the government, I’m not buying the socialist label. That’s total nonsense.
     
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    New Party Online News - November 1996
     
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    I don't think you are aware this was all public knowledge in the 2008 election year cycle, too.
     
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    Hey. Don't take OUR word for it:

    Hitler, Socialist, Supreme Community Organizer and Hater of Capitialists...... just like Barry:

    "In the World War we had them as external foes, in our struggle as internal foes, and now, as a National-Socialist State, as external foes again.

    And again it is no accident that the same State which at that time thought it could bring about the collapse of Germany by a flood of lying propaganda, now again sends a man on the same mission. Then his name was Wilson; now his name is Roosevelt. The Germany of that time, without any education in state and national politics, without any unity, without any enlightenment on the problem of the Jewish question and the working of that power, fell victim to that attack.

    The great mistake is that our enemies now imagine it will happen a second time. For if at that time we were perhaps the best organized people in the world, without doubt again we are now the best organized people in the world. And if anyone in the rest of the world imagines he can shatter this people, he does not know the enduring heart of this people today, nor the enduring power, the knowledge which guides this people politically today-the National Socialist Party and its mighty organization.

    Neither has he any idea of what this movement has achieved since then, how it has taken hold of our people by its accomplishments, and how it has fulfilled the Socialist ideal-which is free of all international cheating, all the "lying tirades," how it has fulfilled these Socialist ideals in a way that no other State has even begun to approach up to now, to say nothing of attain.

    I am calm therefore when I face any German who is fighting in the East, or who comes home on leave-and I can tell each one of them, just look at our organization. Compare our home cities, compare the workers' settlements which we are building, compare our social organization with what you have seen on the other side. Compare the fate and the lot of the German farmer with the lot of that Russian farmer. Compare all of that, my dear friend, and then give me your judgment as to who has managed things better, and above all else, who has had more honorable intentions?

    Not one man has as yet returned, who could express any other opinion than that if a Socialistic State were in the process of being realized anywhere, it was in Germany only that it was actually taking place. That is still another reason why this other world which so willingly represents capitalistic interests in particular, is attacking us. It is a combine, which even today still pretends to be able to rule the world according to its private capitalistic interests, to manage it, and when necessary, to keep on ruling it. "

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holo caust/hitler110842.html
     

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