Widening Of The Buffer Zone

P F Tinmore, et al,

You assume I said more than I did.

the territory under the Mandate of Palestine,​

Propagandists use this term a lot to imply that the territory belonged to the mandate. It did not. It held Palestine in trust. Neither the mandate nor the UN had the authority to take any of that territory and give it to someone else. You, yourself, said a few months ago that the territory was not up for grabs.
(COMMENT)

The Mandate, under which the Administration of the Territory of Palestine (a territory defined and determined by the Allied Powers), was the tool and an instrument --- an official order --- the commission and the authority to act in a certain way, relative to a territorial plot that the Ottoman Empire had renounces formally the rights of suzerainty or jurisdiction to the Allied Powers.

You are correct, the territory does not and never did "belong to the Mandate." The Mandate was written (formalized in 1922) but having been agreed upon by the Allied Power (San Remo 1920) to Administer the region (within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers) until such time as those territories were able to stand alone. You are again correct I did explicitly indicate that "the territory was not up for grabs." The destiny of the territory was in the care [full powers of legislation and of administration (placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home)] of the Mandatory on behalf of the Allied Powers to which the territory was forfeited --- by the Ottoman Empire.

Your implication where was that the Arab Palestinians had some legal authority over the territory; that would be wrong.

Most Respectfully,
R
What part of this refutes my post?

Are you blind? He refuted, for the 100th time, your lie that the Palestinians did not use resolution 181. Sure, they rejected it at first, but then they used it as a legal basis to declare independence in 1988. I've also provided you with links that say that same thing. The Palestinians even admitted themselves that they used resolution 181.
Do you have memory issues or are you allergic to the truth? I'm leaning towards the latter.
So then, since Israel and Palestine both accepted resolution 181 then the proposed borders are the international borders between the two.

Nope. There was no mention of permanent international boundaries in resolution 181. When the Palestinians declared independence 1988, they used resolution 181 as a legal basis to declare independence, however by then there was less land for them to declare. 50% less to be exact.
P F Tinmore, et al,

You assume I said more than I did.

the territory under the Mandate of Palestine,​

Propagandists use this term a lot to imply that the territory belonged to the mandate. It did not. It held Palestine in trust. Neither the mandate nor the UN had the authority to take any of that territory and give it to someone else. You, yourself, said a few months ago that the territory was not up for grabs.
(COMMENT)

The Mandate, under which the Administration of the Territory of Palestine (a territory defined and determined by the Allied Powers), was the tool and an instrument --- an official order --- the commission and the authority to act in a certain way, relative to a territorial plot that the Ottoman Empire had renounces formally the rights of suzerainty or jurisdiction to the Allied Powers.

You are correct, the territory does not and never did "belong to the Mandate." The Mandate was written (formalized in 1922) but having been agreed upon by the Allied Power (San Remo 1920) to Administer the region (within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers) until such time as those territories were able to stand alone. You are again correct I did explicitly indicate that "the territory was not up for grabs." The destiny of the territory was in the care [full powers of legislation and of administration (placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home)] of the Mandatory on behalf of the Allied Powers to which the territory was forfeited --- by the Ottoman Empire.

Your implication where was that the Arab Palestinians had some legal authority over the territory; that would be wrong.

Most Respectfully,
R
What part of this refutes my post?

Are you blind? He refuted, for the 100th time, your lie that the Palestinians did not use resolution 181. Sure, they rejected it at first, but then they used it as a legal basis to declare independence in 1988. I've also provided you with links that say that same thing. The Palestinians even admitted themselves that they used resolution 181.
Do you have memory issues or are you allergic to the truth? I'm leaning towards the latter.
So then, since Israel and Palestine both accepted resolution 181 then the proposed borders are the international borders between the two.

Nope. There was no mention of permanent international boundaries in resolution 181.

LOL

Resolution 181-Borders of the Arab State.

"The area of the Arab State in Western Galilee is bounded on the west by the Mediterranean and on the north by the frontier of the Lebanon from Ras en Naqura to a point north of Saliha. From there the boundary proceeds southwards, leaving the built-up area of Saliha in the Arab State, to join the southernmost point of this village. Thence it follows the western boundary line of the villages of `Alma, Rihaniya and Teitaba, thence following the northern boundary line of Meirun village to join the Acre-Safad sub-district boundary line. It follows this line to a point west of Es Sammu'i village and joins it again at the northernmost point of Farradiya. Thence it follows the sub-district boundary line to the Acre-Safad main road. From here it follows the western boundary of Kafr I'nan village until it reaches the Tiberias-Acre sub-district boundary line, passing to the west of the junction of the Acre-Safad and Lubiya-Kafr I'nan roads. From south-west corner of Kafr I'nan village the boundary line follows the western boundary of the Tiberias sub-district to a point close to the boundary line between the villages of Maghar and Eilabun, thence bulging out to the west to include as much of the eastern part of the plain of Battuf as is necessary for the reservoir proposed by the Jewish Agency for the irrigation of lands to the south and east.

The boundary rejoins the Tiberias sub-district boundary at a point on the Nazareth-Tiberias road south-east of the built-up area of Tur'an; thence it runs southwards, at first following the sub-district boundary and then passing between the Kadoorie Agricultural School and Mount Tabor, to a point due south at the base of Mount Tabor. From here it runs due west, parallel to the horizontal grid line 230, to the north-east corner of the village lands of Tel Adashim. It then runs to the north-west corner of these lands, whence it turns south and west so as to include in the Arab State the sources of the Nazareth water supply in Yafa village. On reaching Ginneiger it follows the eastern, northern and western boundaries of the lands of this village to their south-west corner, whence it proceeds in a straight line to a point on the Haifa-Afula railway on the boundary between the villages of Sarid and El Mujeidil. This is the point of intersection.

The south-western boundary of the area of the Arab State in Galilee takes a line from this point, passing northwards along the eastern boundaries of Sarid and Gevat to the north-eastern corner of Nahalal, proceeding thence across the land of Kefar ha Horesh to a central point on the southern boundary of the village of `Ilut, thence westwards along that village boundary to the eastern boundary of Beit Lahm, thence northwards and north-eastwards along its western boundary to the north-eastern corner of Waldheim and thence north-westwards across the village lands of Shafa 'Amr to the south-eastern corner of Ramat Yohanan'. From here it runs due north-north-east to a point on the Shafa 'Amr-Haifa road, west of its junction with the road to I'Billin. From there it proceeds north-east to a point on the southern boundary of I'Billin situated to the west of the I'Billin-Birwa road. Thence along that boundary to its westernmost point, whence it turns to the north, follows across the village land of Tamra to the north-westernmost corner and along the western boundary of Julis until it reaches the Acre-Safad road. It then runs westwards along the southern side of the Safad-Acre road to the Galilee-Haifa District boundary, from which point it follows that boundary to the sea.

The boundary of the hill country of Samaria and Judea starts on the Jordan River at the Wadi Malih south-east of Beisan and runs due west to meet the Beisan-Jericho road and then follows the western side of that road in a north-westerly direction to the junction of the boundaries of the sub-districts of Beisan, Nablus, and Jenin. From that point it follows the Nablus-Jenin sub-district boundary westwards for a distance of about three kilometres and then turns north-westwards, passing to the east of the built-up areas of the villages of Jalbun and Faqqu'a, to the boundary of the sub-districts of Jenin and Beisan at a point north-east of Nuris. Thence it proceeds first north-westwards to a point due north of the built-up area of Zir'in and then westwards to the Afula-Jenin railway, thence north-westwards along the district boundary line to the point of intersection on the Hejaz railway. From here the boundary runs south-westwards, including the built-up area and some of the land of the village of Kh.Lid in the Arab State to cross the Haifa-Jenin road at a point on the district boundary between Haifa and Samaria west of El Mansi. It follows this boundary to the southernmost point of the village of El Buteimat. From here it follows the northern and eastern boundaries of the village of Ar'ara, rejoining the Haifa-Samaria district boundary at Wadi'Ara, and thence proceeding south-south-westwards in an approximately straight line joining up with the western boundary of Qaqun to a point east of the railway line on the eastern boundary of Qaqun village. From here it runs along the railway line some distance to the east of it to a point just east of the Tulkarm railway station. Thence the boundary follows a line half-way between the railway and the Tulkarm-Qalqiliya-Jaljuliya and Ras el Ein road to a point just east of Ras el Ein station, whence it proceeds along the railway some distance to the east of it to the point on the railway line south of the junction of the Haifa-Lydda and Beit Nabala lines, whence it proceeds along the southern border of Lydda airport to its south-west corner, thence in a south-westerly direction to a point just west of the built-up area of Sarafand el'Amar, whence it turns south, passing just to the west of the built-up area of Abu el Fadil to the north-east corner of the lands of Beer Ya'Aqov. (The boundary line should be so demarcated as to allow direct access from the Arab State to the airport.) Thence the boundary line follows the western and southern boundaries of Ramle village, to the north-east corner of El Na'ana village, thence in a straight line to the southernmost point of El Barriya, along the eastern boundary of that village and the southern boundary of 'Innaba village. Thence it turns north to follow the southern side of the Jaffa-Jerusalem road until El Qubab, whence it follows the road to the boundary of Abu Shusha. It runs along the eastern boundaries of Abu Shusha, Seidun, Hulda to the southernmost point of Hulda, thence westwards in a straight line to the north-eastern corner of Umm Kalkha, thence following the northern boundaries of Umm Kalkha, Qazaza and the northern and western boundaries of Mukhezin to the Gaza District boundary and thence runs across the village lands of El Mismiya, El Kabira, and Yasur to the southern point of intersection, which is midway between the built-up areas of Yasur and Batani Sharqi.

From the southern point of intersection the boundary lines run north-westwards between the villages of Gan Yavne and Barqa to the sea at a point half way between Nabi Yunis and Minat el Qila, and south-eastwards to a point west of Qastina, whence it turns in a south-westerly direction, passing to the east of the built-up areas of Es Sawafir, Es Sharqiya and Ibdis. From the south-east corner of Ibdis village it runs to a point south-west of the built-up area of Beit 'Affa, crossing the Hebron-El Majdal road just to the west of the built-up area of Iraq Suweidan. Thence it proceeds southwards along the western village boundary of El Faluja to the Beersheba sub-district boundary. It then runs across the tribal lands of 'Arab el Jubarat to a point on the boundary between the sub-districts of Beersheba and Hebron north of Kh. Khuweilifa, whence it proceeds in a south-westerly direction to a point on the Beersheba-Gaza main road two kilometres to the north-west of the town. It then turns south-eastwards to reach Wadi Sab' at a point situated one kilometre to the west of it. From here it turns north-eastwards and proceeds along Wadi Sab' and along the Beersheba-Hebron road for a distance of one kilometre, whence it turns eastwards and runs in a straight line to Kh. Kuseifa to join the Beersheba-Hebron sub-district boundary. It then follows the Beersheba-Hebron boundary eastwards to a point north of Ras Ez Zuweira, only departing from it so as to cut across the base of the indentation between vertical grid lines 150 and 160.

About five kilometres north-east of Ras ez Zuweira it turns north, excluding from the Arab State a strip along the coast of the Dead Sea not more than seven kilometres in depth, as far as Ein Geddi, whence it turns due east to join the Transjordan frontier in the Dead Sea.

The northern boundary of the Arab section of the coastal plain runs from a point between Minat el Qila and Nabi Yunis, passing between the built-up areas of Gan Yavne and Barqa to the point of intersection. From here it turns south-westwards, running across the lands of Batani Sharqi, along the eastern boundary of the lands of Beit Daras and across the lands of Julis, leaving the built-up areas of Batani Sharqi and Julis to the westwards, as far as the north-west corner of the lands of Beit Tima. Thence it runs east of El Jiya across the village lands of El Barbara along the eastern boundaries of the villages of Beit Jirja, Deir Suneid and Dimra. From the south-east corner of Dimra the boundary passes across the lands of Beit Hanun, leaving the Jewish lands of Nir-Am to the eastwards. From the south-east corner of Dimra the boundary passes across the lands of Beit Hanun, leaving the Jewish lands of Nir-Am to the eastwards. From the south-east corner of Beit Hanun the line runs south-west to a point south of the parallel grid line 100, then turns north-west for two kilometres, turning again in a south-westerly direction and continuing in an almost straight line to the north-west corner of the village lands of Kirbet Ikhza'a. From there it follows the boundary line of this village to its southernmost point. It then runs in a southernly direction along the vertical grid line 90 to its junction with the horizontal grid line 70. It then turns south-eastwards to Kh. el Ruheiba and then proceeds in a southerly direction to a point known as El Baha, beyond which it crosses the Beersheba-El 'Auja main road to the west of Kh. el Mushrifa. From there it joins Wadi El Zaiyatin just to the west of El Subeita. From there it turns to the north-east and then to the south-east following this Wadi and passes to the east of 'Abda to join Wadi Nafkh. It then bulges to the south-west along Wadi Nafkh. It then bulges to the south-west along Wadi Nafkh, Wadi Ajrim and Wadi Lassan to the point where Wadi Lassan crosses the Egyptian frontier.

The area of the Arab enclave of Jaffa consists of that part of the town-planning area of Jaffa which lies to the west of the Jewish quarters lying south of Tel-Aviv, to the west of the continuation of Herzl street up to its junction with the Jaffa-Jerusalem road, to the south-west of the section of the Jaffa-Jerusalem road lying south-east of that junction, to the west of Miqve Israel lands, to the north-west of Holon local council area, to the north of the line linking up the north-west corner of Holon with the north-east corner of Bat Yam local council area and to the north of Bat Yam local council area. The question of Karton quarter will be decided by the Boundary Commission, bearing in mind among other considerations the desirability of including the smallest possible number of its Arab inhabitants and the largest possible number of its Jewish inhabitants in the Jewish State."

A RES 181 II of 29 November 1947
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

You assume I said more than I did.

(COMMENT)

The Mandate, under which the Administration of the Territory of Palestine (a territory defined and determined by the Allied Powers), was the tool and an instrument --- an official order --- the commission and the authority to act in a certain way, relative to a territorial plot that the Ottoman Empire had renounces formally the rights of suzerainty or jurisdiction to the Allied Powers.

You are correct, the territory does not and never did "belong to the Mandate." The Mandate was written (formalized in 1922) but having been agreed upon by the Allied Power (San Remo 1920) to Administer the region (within such boundaries as may be determined by the Principal Allied Powers) until such time as those territories were able to stand alone. You are again correct I did explicitly indicate that "the territory was not up for grabs." The destiny of the territory was in the care [full powers of legislation and of administration (placing the country under such political, administrative and economic conditions as will secure the establishment of the Jewish national home)] of the Mandatory on behalf of the Allied Powers to which the territory was forfeited --- by the Ottoman Empire.

Your implication where was that the Arab Palestinians had some legal authority over the territory; that would be wrong.

Most Respectfully,
R
What part of this refutes my post?

Are you blind? He refuted, for the 100th time, your lie that the Palestinians did not use resolution 181. Sure, they rejected it at first, but then they used it as a legal basis to declare independence in 1988. I've also provided you with links that say that same thing. The Palestinians even admitted themselves that they used resolution 181.
Do you have memory issues or are you allergic to the truth? I'm leaning towards the latter.
So then, since Israel and Palestine both accepted resolution 181 then the proposed borders are the international borders between the two.

Nope. There was no mention of permanent international boundaries in resolution 181. When the Palestinians declared independence 1988, they used resolution 181 as a legal basis to declare independence, however by then there was less land for them to declare. 50% less to be exact.
Yes there was. You need to read up.

Resolution 181 never happened and never will happen. I don't know why anybody mentions it.

Again, Rocco and I have links that proves without doubt that both Israel AND the Palestinians used 181 as a legal basis to declare independence.

You have....well....nothing but your opinion....
 
What part of this refutes my post?

Are you blind? He refuted, for the 100th time, your lie that the Palestinians did not use resolution 181. Sure, they rejected it at first, but then they used it as a legal basis to declare independence in 1988. I've also provided you with links that say that same thing. The Palestinians even admitted themselves that they used resolution 181.
Do you have memory issues or are you allergic to the truth? I'm leaning towards the latter.
So then, since Israel and Palestine both accepted resolution 181 then the proposed borders are the international borders between the two.

Nope. There was no mention of permanent international boundaries in resolution 181. When the Palestinians declared independence 1988, they used resolution 181 as a legal basis to declare independence, however by then there was less land for them to declare. 50% less to be exact.
Yes there was. You need to read up.

Resolution 181 never happened and never will happen. I don't know why anybody mentions it.

Again, Rocco and I have links that proves without doubt that both Israel AND the Palestinians used 181 as a legal basis to declare independence.

You have....well....nothing but your opinion....
OK, now prove that any of it exists.
 
Are you blind? He refuted, for the 100th time, your lie that the Palestinians did not use resolution 181. Sure, they rejected it at first, but then they used it as a legal basis to declare independence in 1988. I've also provided you with links that say that same thing. The Palestinians even admitted themselves that they used resolution 181.
Do you have memory issues or are you allergic to the truth? I'm leaning towards the latter.
So then, since Israel and Palestine both accepted resolution 181 then the proposed borders are the international borders between the two.

Nope. There was no mention of permanent international boundaries in resolution 181. When the Palestinians declared independence 1988, they used resolution 181 as a legal basis to demy post ?clare independence, however by then there was less land for them to declare. 50% less to be exact.
Yes there was. You need to read up.

Resolution 181 never happened and never will happen. I don't know why anybody mentions it.

Again, Rocco and I have links that proves without doubt that both Israel AND the Palestinians used 181 as a legal basis to declare independence.

You have....well....nothing but your opinion....
OK, now prove that any of it exists.
You're asking me for a link to back up
 
So then, since Israel and Palestine both accepted resolution 181 then the proposed borders are the international borders between the two.

Nope. There was no mention of permanent international boundaries in resolution 181. When the Palestinians declared independence 1988, they used resolution 181 as a legal basis to demy post ?clare independence, however by then there was less land for them to declare. 50% less to be exact.
Yes there was. You need to read up.

Resolution 181 never happened and never will happen. I don't know why anybody mentions it.

Again, Rocco and I have links that proves without doubt that both Israel AND the Palestinians used 181 as a legal basis to declare independence.

You have....well....nothing but your opinion....
OK, now prove that any of it exists.
You're asking me for a link to back up
Sure.

Where are those proposed borders?

Where are the rights of the non Jewish population?

Where is that international city of Jerusalem?

Hmmm???
 
Nope. There was no mention of permanent international boundaries in resolution 181. When the Palestinians declared independence 1988, they used resolution 181 as a legal basis to demy post ?clare independence, however by then there was less land for them to declare. 50% less to be exact.
Yes there was. You need to read up.

Resolution 181 never happened and never will happen. I don't know why anybody mentions it.

Again, Rocco and I have links that proves without doubt that both Israel AND the Palestinians used 181 as a legal basis to declare independence.

You have....well....nothing but your opinion....
OK, now prove that any of it exists.
You're asking me for a link to back up
Sure.

Where are those proposed borders?

Where are the rights of the non Jewish population?

Where is that international city of Jerusalem?

Hmmm???
Where is the relevance in your post?? The PLO said themselves 181.
Due to the 1948 war, the Palestinians didn't get exactly what was proposed. Nonetheless, they used 181 as a basis to declare independence, which refutes your earlier.

BTW, where your links ??)
 
Yes there was. You need to read up.

Resolution 181 never happened and never will happen. I don't know why anybody mentions it.

Again, Rocco and I have links that proves without doubt that both Israel AND the Palestinians used 181 as a legal basis to declare independence.

You have....well....nothing but your opinion....
OK, now prove that any of it exists.
You're asking me for a link to back up
Sure.

Where are those proposed borders?

Where are the rights of the non Jewish population?

Where is that international city of Jerusalem?

Hmmm???
Where is the relevance in your post?? The PLO said themselves 181.
Due to the 1948 war, the Palestinians didn't get exactly what was proposed. Nonetheless, they used 181 as a basis to declare independence, which refutes your earlier.

BTW, where your links ??)
Holy deflection Batman!!!

Wars don't change resolutions. Where is resolution 181? Answer the questions.
 
Tinmore, YOU are the one deflecting. I refuted your claim with a valid link, and you proceeded to ask different questions.

I don't know how to answer the question Where is resolution 181...

But I DO know that you're blabbering on without providing any links whatsoever...

So if you can refute my link somehow with another link, then go ahead. If not, admit you're wrong and we can move on to another subject...
 
Here's a link about their declaration of independence of 1988 from a Palestinian/Arab site:

The Declaration contains an overt acceptance that "the United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181, of 1947, which partitioned Palestine into two states [...] provides the legal basis for the right of the Palestinian Arab people to national sovereignty and independence." Our recognition of the authority of Resolution 181, combined with our acknowledgment (in the same session of the PNC) of UN Security Council Resolutions 242 (1967) and 338 (1973) as the basis for settling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, signaled our formal acceptance of the two-state solution

November 15 1988 The Declaration of Independence of the State of Palestine

So it's true that initially they did not accept resolution 181 in 1947, but 40 years later, they did.

So there goes your 'the Palestinians rejected resolution 181 and that was it' claim.
 
Here's a link about their declaration of independence of 1988 from a Palestinian/Arab site:

The Declaration contains an overt acceptance that "the United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181, of 1947, which partitioned Palestine into two states [...] provides the legal basis for the right of the Palestinian Arab people to national sovereignty and independence." Our recognition of the authority of Resolution 181, combined with our acknowledgment (in the same session of the PNC) of UN Security Council Resolutions 242 (1967) and 338 (1973) as the basis for settling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, signaled our formal acceptance of the two-state solution

November 15 1988 The Declaration of Independence of the State of Palestine

So it's true that initially they did not accept resolution 181 in 1947, but 40 years later, they did.

So there goes your 'the Palestinians rejected resolution 181 and that was it' claim.
OK, so the PLO declared independence referencing resolution 181.

Where is that independent Palestine?
 
Here's a link about their declaration of independence of 1988 from a Palestinian/Arab site:

The Declaration contains an overt acceptance that "the United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181, of 1947, which partitioned Palestine into two states [...] provides the legal basis for the right of the Palestinian Arab people to national sovereignty and independence." Our recognition of the authority of Resolution 181, combined with our acknowledgment (in the same session of the PNC) of UN Security Council Resolutions 242 (1967) and 338 (1973) as the basis for settling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, signaled our formal acceptance of the two-state solution

November 15 1988 The Declaration of Independence of the State of Palestine

So it's true that initially they did not accept resolution 181 in 1947, but 40 years later, they did.

So there goes your 'the Palestinians rejected resolution 181 and that was it' claim.
OK, so the PLO declared independence referencing resolution 181.

Where is that independent Palestine?
JORDAN................
 
Here's a link about their declaration of independence of 1988 from a Palestinian/Arab site:

The Declaration contains an overt acceptance that "the United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181, of 1947, which partitioned Palestine into two states [...] provides the legal basis for the right of the Palestinian Arab people to national sovereignty and independence." Our recognition of the authority of Resolution 181, combined with our acknowledgment (in the same session of the PNC) of UN Security Council Resolutions 242 (1967) and 338 (1973) as the basis for settling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, signaled our formal acceptance of the two-state solution

November 15 1988 The Declaration of Independence of the State of Palestine

So it's true that initially they did not accept resolution 181 in 1947, but 40 years later, they did.

So there goes your 'the Palestinians rejected resolution 181 and that was it' claim.
OK, so the PLO declared independence referencing resolution 181.

Where is that independent Palestine?

Not sure how to answer that question.
 
Here's a link about their declaration of independence of 1988 from a Palestinian/Arab site:

The Declaration contains an overt acceptance that "the United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181, of 1947, which partitioned Palestine into two states [...] provides the legal basis for the right of the Palestinian Arab people to national sovereignty and independence." Our recognition of the authority of Resolution 181, combined with our acknowledgment (in the same session of the PNC) of UN Security Council Resolutions 242 (1967) and 338 (1973) as the basis for settling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, signaled our formal acceptance of the two-state solution

November 15 1988 The Declaration of Independence of the State of Palestine

So it's true that initially they did not accept resolution 181 in 1947, but 40 years later, they did.

So there goes your 'the Palestinians rejected resolution 181 and that was it' claim.
OK, so the PLO declared independence referencing resolution 181.

Where is that independent Palestine?

Not sure how to answer that question.
Indeed, you are batting zero there big guy.
 
Here's a link about their declaration of independence of 1988 from a Palestinian/Arab site:

The Declaration contains an overt acceptance that "the United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181, of 1947, which partitioned Palestine into two states [...] provides the legal basis for the right of the Palestinian Arab people to national sovereignty and independence." Our recognition of the authority of Resolution 181, combined with our acknowledgment (in the same session of the PNC) of UN Security Council Resolutions 242 (1967) and 338 (1973) as the basis for settling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, signaled our formal acceptance of the two-state solution

November 15 1988 The Declaration of Independence of the State of Palestine

So it's true that initially they did not accept resolution 181 in 1947, but 40 years later, they did.

So there goes your 'the Palestinians rejected resolution 181 and that was it' claim.
OK, so the PLO declared independence referencing resolution 181.

Where is that independent Palestine?

Not sure how to answer that question.
Indeed, you are batting zero there big guy.

No, YOU'RE batting zero. I provided valid links that indisputably backed up my claim and refuted yours. You provided nothing.

You lost the debate.
 
Here's a link about their declaration of independence of 1988 from a Palestinian/Arab site:

The Declaration contains an overt acceptance that "the United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181, of 1947, which partitioned Palestine into two states [...] provides the legal basis for the right of the Palestinian Arab people to national sovereignty and independence." Our recognition of the authority of Resolution 181, combined with our acknowledgment (in the same session of the PNC) of UN Security Council Resolutions 242 (1967) and 338 (1973) as the basis for settling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, signaled our formal acceptance of the two-state solution

November 15 1988 The Declaration of Independence of the State of Palestine

So it's true that initially they did not accept resolution 181 in 1947, but 40 years later, they did.

So there goes your 'the Palestinians rejected resolution 181 and that was it' claim.
OK, so the PLO declared independence referencing resolution 181.

Where is that independent Palestine?

Not sure how to answer that question.
Indeed, you are batting zero there big guy.

No, YOU'RE batting zero. I provided valid links that indisputably backed up my claim and refuted yours. You provided nothing.

You lost the debate.
Really?

You just gave another instance that shows that resolution 181 does not exist.
 
Here's a link about their declaration of independence of 1988 from a Palestinian/Arab site:

The Declaration contains an overt acceptance that "the United Nations General Assembly Resolution 181, of 1947, which partitioned Palestine into two states [...] provides the legal basis for the right of the Palestinian Arab people to national sovereignty and independence." Our recognition of the authority of Resolution 181, combined with our acknowledgment (in the same session of the PNC) of UN Security Council Resolutions 242 (1967) and 338 (1973) as the basis for settling the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, signaled our formal acceptance of the two-state solution

November 15 1988 The Declaration of Independence of the State of Palestine

So it's true that initially they did not accept resolution 181 in 1947, but 40 years later, they did.

So there goes your 'the Palestinians rejected resolution 181 and that was it' claim.
OK, so the PLO declared independence referencing resolution 181.

Where is that independent Palestine?

Not sure how to answer that question.
Indeed, you are batting zero there big guy.

No, YOU'RE batting zero. I provided valid links that indisputably backed up my claim and refuted yours. You provided nothing.

You lost the debate.
Really?

You just gave another instance that shows that resolution 181 does not exist.

No I didn't. This is just yet ANOTHER example of you not being able to accept that you are wrong.
Are you scared that I'm going to rub it in your face if you admit you're wrong ? Because I'm not. Actually, I would respect you if you did.

Either way, the links I provided are as clear as day. Weather you admit it or not, the facts I presented remain facts.
 
OK, so the PLO declared independence referencing resolution 181.

Where is that independent Palestine?

Not sure how to answer that question.
Indeed, you are batting zero there big guy.

No, YOU'RE batting zero. I provided valid links that indisputably backed up my claim and refuted yours. You provided nothing.

You lost the debate.
Really?

You just gave another instance that shows that resolution 181 does not exist.

No I didn't. This is just yet ANOTHER example of you not being able to accept that you are wrong.
Are you scared that I'm going to rub it in your face if you admit you're wrong ? Because I'm not. Actually, I would respect you if you did.

Either way, the links I provided are as clear as day. Weather you admit it or not, the facts I presented remain facts.
You have proved that it was mentioned but it is still as dead as it was in 1947.
 

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