Why We NEED to be DRACONIAN on Child Molesters and RAPISTS!!!

[publicprotector]

Unfortunately killing these animals as you call them is not a deterrent to those who commit these types of crime. The only logical solution to this problem is to find out what triggers such behaviour and to try and stop it in the first place.

Its poor solace indeed to the victims of these crimes that the perps have been executed. And as the death penalty dose not deter such crimes therefore any such action would be for vengeance purposes only and dose not serve any reason for justice.

It would be nice to think that the death penalty would be a detterent but history proves that view incorrect so as a means of reducing the crime happening it has zero effect. The whole purpose of law and the justice system is for the people to follow the rules is it not.

 

[chanel]

The ACLU loves child molestors They have defended NMBLA and fought nearly every sex offender law on the books.As long as the ACLU is supported by the loonies in power, this shit will go on and on and on.

I tutored a 17 year old child molestor who got a slap on the wrist for fondling his six year old niece. He told me she wanted him to. He is limited in intelligence, so the Court had mercy on him. How many more victims will there be? The six year old still remains in the same home with him.

 

[Diuretic]

The ACLU loves child molestors They have defended NMBLA and fought nearly every sex offender law on the books.As long as the ACLU is supported by the loonies in power, this shit will go on and on and on.

I tutored a 17 year old child molestor who got a slap on the wrist for fondling his six year old niece. He told me she wanted him to. He is limited in intelligence, so the Court had mercy on him. How many more victims will there be? The six year old still remains in the same home with him.

Hang on, hang on. What did the ACLU defend? As I understand it they're interested in defending the US Constitution. At a guess I'd say that means the First Amendment, not any individual or group.

 

[chanel]

Can't google it right now cause I'm on my bb. But type in aclu/nmbla aclu/megans law and aclu/jessicas law. They've fought them all.

NJ is trying to get GPS monitoring. Guess who is oppoed?

 

[Diuretic]

Can't google it right now cause I'm on my bb. But type in aclu/nmbla aclu/megans law and aclu/jessicas law. They've fought them all.

NJ is trying to get GPS monitoring. Guess who is oppoed?

Fighting to get laws changed - okay, but on what grounds? No hurry by the way, I know people have got things to do other than spend too much time here.

But you know, you should be glad you have the ACLU. Governments of all persuasions will always seek as much power as they can get, that includes governments in liberal democracies. If the ACLU is willing to spend money to go to the courts to defend the operation of the US Constitution in reality rather than in purely symbolic terms you should be very pleased, in fact you should kick a few bucks over there.

 

[Agnapostate]

The ACLU has a broadly civil libertarian agenda, and will oppose any restrictive policy that they perceive as a constitutional infringement.

 

[chanel]

Never. I understand they do some good things but defending child molestors and child pornographers puts them on my shit list. And as a public school teacher in NJ, I can assure you that they have put the safety of children at risk by always protecting the rights of the criminals. They have fought against locker searches, drug testing, dogs, and cameras. In NJ, they have successfully outlawed expulsion. That's why I tutor child molestors and other serious criminals.It pays well.Someone has to do it.

 

[Agnapostate]

They have fought against locker searches, drug testing, dogs, and cameras.

I'm glad to hear it. I've found that while the teaching profession attracts many do-gooders, it also attracts many who have an unhealthy interest in exercising authoritarian hierarchical influence over others, as does the field of law enforcement. Public school students need to exercise their constitutional rights and liberties to the fullest extent to keep overreaching teachers and administrators in check.

 

[chanel]

Of course I disagree with you, but as both a mother and a teacher I have always believed in safety first. And children cannot learn when they are afraid.

The majority of my students are grateful to have cops and cameras in my school. And so am I.

 

[Agnapostate]

What's the Franklin quote so often referred to? "They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Frankly, the liberty/security dichotomy is a false one, particularly since there is observable evidence of violence and dysfunction in schools increasing parallel to authoritarian restrictions. School violence itself was effectively bred by the introduction of compulsory attendance into public schooling.

 

[chanel]

Bullshit. Schools were much safer when we were in school. Now the inmates are running the asylum. Kids will do whatever they can get away with and today they know they can get away with just about anything. A teacher raises their voice, and they threaten to sue. I am not a proponent of running schools like prisons. But that's why I'm in favor of ejecting the prisoners. A common "sentence" in juvenile court is to "attend school" They don't have to obey the rules or pass their classes. They just have to show up.I am advocate for the rights of the kids who want to learn and not get hassled in the bathroom by drug dealers. Unfortunately there are no "civil rights" groups fighting for them.

 

[Agnapostate]

No, there is specific evidence that the expansion of school violence is connected to the parallel establishment of compulsory schooling, which should provide us with insights as to the effects of authoritarianism in schools. As put by Elizabeth Midlarsky and Helen Marie Klain (“A History of Violence in the Schools.” In Violence in Schools: Cross-National and Cross-Cultural Perspectives, edited by Florence Denmark. New York: Springer, 2005):

School violence appeared to be particularly widespread during periods wherein education became compulsory for previously unschooled students. Neither the students nor their teachers had any positive attachment to one another nor to the schools. Disciplinary problems were rampant and were addressed through corporal punishment. In contrast to the opinion that leniency leads to chaos, the harsh discipline found in earlier times led, quite literally, to chaos.

We thus again see the pattern of coercive and authoritarian restrictions and disciplinary methods having the effect not of ending problems, but instead of producing a greater amount and more intense form of the very behavior that its application was intended to stymie. This is due to the fact that legitimately harmonious relations cannot be bred by coercion or force, and must instead be produced by voluntary association. Utilization of coercion or force will have the effect of producing contentious and hostile relations rather than peaceable ones, a reality acknowledged by the authors’ quotation of an astute observer's comment that “[t]here is as little disposition on the part of American children to obey the uncontrovertible will of their masters as on the part of their fathers to submit to the mandates of kings.”

 

[bodecea]

Bullshit. Schools were much safer when we were in school. Now the inmates are running the asylum. Kids will do whatever they can get away with and today they know they can get away with just about anything. A teacher raises their voice, and they threaten to sue. I am not a proponent of running schools like prisons. But that's why I'm in favor of ejecting the prisoners. A common "sentence" in juvenile court is to "attend school" They don't have to obey the rules or pass their classes. They just have to show up.I am advocate for the rights of the kids who want to learn and not get hassled in the bathroom by drug dealers. Unfortunately there are no "civil rights" groups fighting for them.

I agree with you on this. The primary problem is what to do with those disruptive students rather than put them back into the schools to ruin it for everyone else? Maybe ditch digging or picking crops in the fields...you know, those jobs that Americans supposedly don't want.

 

[noose4]

Well, aside from that, instituting the death penalty as a punishment for rape would provide a perverse incentive for the rapist to kill his victim, just as instituting the death penalty for single murders provides a perverse incentive to commit additional murders and violently resist attempts at police capture.

though like any decent person i revile child molestors but you make a very good point, some one who is sick and evil enough to molest a child wouldnt hesitate in killing that child if the punishment for both acts are the same and they have nothing to lose by killing the kid and hiding the body.

 

[GHook93]

The ACLU has a broadly civil libertarian agenda, and will oppose any restrictive policy that they perceive as a constitutional infringement.

As long as those views are from a leftist political agenda! If they are from opposing viewpoints then the constitution goes out window!

These are people that are against the NFL searching people with a pad down when they attend game, but they themselves have metal detector and high security at there offices. Hypocrisy? Methink so!

 

[Agnapostate]

As long as those views are from a leftist political agenda! If they are from opposing viewpoints then the constitution goes out window!

I don't believe your standard attempts at self-validating assertions will be tolerated this time, GayHooker...unless you have sufficient evidence to document such, perhaps you'd better retract this particular claim.

These are people that are against the NFL searching people with a pad down when they attend game, but they themselves have metal detector and high security at there offices. Hypocrisy? Methink so!

Would you perceive a search that involved physical contact as more invasive that one that did not?

 

[Father Time]

The ACLU loves child molestors They have defended NMBLA and fought nearly every sex offender law on the books.As long as the ACLU is supported by the loonies in power, this shit will go on and on and on.

Cite cases/proof or shut up, even child molesters get first amendment protection.

As for Nambla, a man raped and murdered someone and the family decided to sue NAMBLA, claiming they're responsible because the man visited the site once. If someone killed an abortionist and we found they visited pro-life sites shall we hold those sites responsible?

 

[Father Time]

Bullshit. Schools were much safer when we were in school. Now the inmates are running the asylum. Kids will do whatever they can get away with and today they know they can get away with just about anything.

Bull-fucking-shit.

Kids lose most 4th amendment rights in school, the bong hits 4 Jesus case made it clear schools can control speech and the asinine zero tolerance policies allow, nay in some cases demand that schools bring draconian punishments for minor infringements.

Also please cite sources saying schools were safer back in your day (whenever that is).

 

[Harry Dresden]

What are your strategy to stop predators preying on our children?

I'm undecided, actually. However, I am aware that your pathetic little screaming and wailing isn't a promising start.

We already know Agna would choose #1 ... he needs future protection at the rate he's going.

Can you go one day without corrupting a thread with a typically idiotic comment that exposes your mental deficiencies? Just one?

you corrupt 80% of the threads you comment on...and its nice to know that you are another "lets not treat pedophiles too roughly.....after all they have rights and are people too"

 

[Agnapostate]

you corrupt 80% of the threads you comment on...and its nice to know that you are another "lets not treat pedophiles too roughly.....after all they have rights and are people too"

Nope! If your forced castration schemes or whatever else you're advocating could legitimately be expected to produce more favorable consequences, I'd be all for it, but given the issue of the perverse incentive that I mentioned above, many of the crazed strategies mentioned by the Neanderthals here aren't going anywhere.