Why the TEA PARTY movement will end up being a GOOD thing for American Politics.

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  1. AVG-JOE
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    The Republican Party has traditionally been a conservative bastion of the status quo - conservative by nature because of it's dedication to preserving the flow of cash in its current direction, which is toward them that have. While the Democratic Party has also been a tool of the status quo in preserving the directional flow of the rivers of money, the Republicans have been their understandable favorite, especially in the wake of the outstanding job the Republicans have done of selling the 'trickle down' theory to the middle classes and successfully using fear to shift the political wind, in spite of economic reality.

    To understand the value that the Tea-Party movement brings to the middle classes via their influence on the Republicans, you must first have a basic understanding of history and an understanding of the definition of "Liberal Thinking". It also helps to understand why liberalism became so popular in the 17th century. Liberal Thinking, in its true connotation, looks for personal responsibility among individuals and limited government involvement in the lives of citizens. Liberal Thinking looks for fair taxation and adequate representation of those taxed in the decisions on how tax money is spent. "Liberal", in short, comes from the word "Liberty".

    What 'Liberal' does NOT mean is 'government control over everything'. This is an unfortunately effective bastardization of the term in the mid 20th century by Republican Senator Joseph McCarthy during his paranoid witch-hunt for communists in America, which was the conservative push for control of American politics using fear of his time, similar to the current use of American fear of Islam and alternative life-styles for political control. The really unfortunate effect that Senator McCarthy's successful witch-hunt had was to give the Democratic Party over to the Socialists, who, like the Conservatives, really do want government control over everything, but for very different reasons.

    The value that the Tea Party brings to middle class politics in America is their stalwart ideology of limited government and personal responsibility for individuals, at least with regards to fiscal issues. In short, the Tea Party has brought true liberal thinking back into mainstream politics in America, at least as far as fiscal policy goes, and they brought it in straight through the front door of Senator McCarthy's Republican Party.

    I call on all my brothers and sisters who understand the value of liberal thinking in politics and making their own decisions in daily life to join their local Tea Party and force this most recent bloom of liberal thinking to push through the liberal policies of limited government, fair taxes and personal responsibility that got so many republicans elected last November, and to also apply the concepts of individual liberty, responsibility and true freedom of personal choices in the many social issues that continue to make the Republican Party in general suck like a conservative dick-tater.

    It's time to take the Tea Party mainstream!
     
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    Mods - please move this thread to the 'Tea Party Forum'.

    Mahalo.
     
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    It already has been and is a good thing for American Politics.

    It shook things up, and forced Both parties to wake the fuck up. If at least for a second. lol
     
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    And if it splits the GOP voters at the next election even better. :tongue:
     
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    Why are you afraid of people voting?

    Is it that you just don't want any rep. in office regardless of platform or qualifications?

    You've just admitted that you are a partisan who puts their party before their country.

    It's damn stupid to blindly vote party over qualifications/experience/good ideas...EITHER party.
     
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    "What convinces masses are not facts, and not even invented facts, but only the consistency of the system which they are presumably part. Repetition, somewhat overrated in importance because of the common belief in the masses' inferior capacity to grasp and remember, is important because it convinces them of consistency in time." Hannah Arendt

    Interesting thoughts even though I disagree. Whenever words like 'limited government' and 'personal responsibility' enter the dialogue you are in subjective-ville. Often they hide the real motivation behind either the status quo or the powers that be. If the tea party were truly grassroots they would have started long ago, not after the last election. The election of William Jefferson Clinton brought forth a similar movement and the commonalities are democrats and a threat to corporate power. I don't have time now to comment sufficiently, but I will leave a few links to my thoughts and the thoughts of others.

    http://www.usmessageboard.com/tea-party/116607-would-the-tea-party-exist.html
    The Contemporary Condition: Tea Party Redux: Thoughts and Responses

    http://www.usmessageboard.com/tea-party/131004-the-tea-party-and-the-kkk.html
    http://www.usmessageboard.com/tea-party/134673-tea-party-anarchists.html
    http://www.usmessageboard.com/tea-party/114928-tea-party-and-sympathizers-please-read.html
    http://www.usmessageboard.com/tea-party/121511-the-very-angry-tea-party.html

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    As an example of the rhoritical term 'limited government,' I offer this view as a counter. The Conservative Nanny State


    "Not only does there seem to be widespread social fragmentation and disillusionment with democracy in the United States, but the possibility of reversing this sense of alienation appears to many of us to be already lost. Any democratic president who wants to institute the desperately needed reforms in health, welfare and the environment faces one of two options. He can stick by his reform program and suffer a loss of public confidence through orchestrated campaigns to publicly portray him as 'too liberal' and ineffectual (the Carter image) or too indecisive or sexually indiscreet (the Clinton image). Alternatively, a reforming democratic president can move further to the Right, forget his promises and become part of the propaganda campaign. Given the history of democratic propaganda in the United States, some of us doubt that another Roosevelt or New Deal is possible. The political system is now so attuned to business interests that this kind of reformer could no longer institute the substantial health, welfare, education, environmental and employment reforms the country needs." Andrew Lohrey, Introduction, "Taking the Risk Out of Democracy" Alex Carey
     
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    ok..we get it..you're willing to use any biased or slanted "source" to prop up your negative assessment of the tea party.
     
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    If the TP really wants to be mainstream, they're going to have to jettison the SOCIAL CONSERVATIVES in their party.

    Likewise the birthers will have to go.

    Neither of those subsets of the TP truly represent the mainstream of American thought.

    The mainstream of thinking here, perhaps, but not that found on Main Street USA
     
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    Taxed Enough Already Party is the majority of silent voters in this country, it includes Repubs, Independents and Dems. You are believing the lies that are being spewed out about the movement. TEA Party is the mainstream whether you like it or not editec.
     
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    Let them keep diluting themselves about it.
     

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