Why the need for Senate impeachment witnesses is invalid.

[healthmyths]

The House is suppose to present the facts of the impeachment.
Why didn't they call witnesses for Trump in the House?
Simple answer and not many people are given the FACTS which is the fault of the GOP especially.
The Executive branch has a RIGHT to take the House witness requests to SCOTUS.
But the Democrats didn't want to have this go to SCOTUS for one reason. Time.
The Democrats wanted to speed up the impeachment process and since they had the majority in the house
there was no need.
So now the Senate does NOT need any more witnesses.

 

[Desperado]

The Senate should not do the work the House did not do.
You can not give the Democrats an inch,

 

[The Original Tree]

The vote to call witnesses was voted on and tabled.

Mitch can leave it tabled for an eternity.

The Senate already said no to witnesses.

 

[jc456]

again, if witnesses are really what they want, then the senate must dismiss these two articles and tell the house to relitigate with their new witnesses and re-present any new articles. That's how it is set up in the constitution.

 

[The Original Tree]

again, if witnesses are really what they want, then the senate must dismiss these two articles and tell the house to relitigate with their new witnesses and re-present any new articles. That's how it is set up in the constitution.

The vote to call witnesses was tabled, so by Senate Rules, it can remain tabled forever.

 

[toobfreak]

The House is suppose to present the facts of the impeachment.
Why didn't they call witnesses for Trump in the House?
Simple answer and not many people are given the FACTS which is the fault of the GOP especially.
The Executive branch has a RIGHT to take the House witness requests to SCOTUS.
But the Democrats didn't want to have this go to SCOTUS for one reason. Time.
The Democrats wanted to speed up the impeachment process and since they had the majority in the house
there was no need.
So now the Senate does NOT need any more witnesses.

The evidence in their file sent to the Senate contained all the evidence they needed to find Trump guilty for impeachment. Remember Nancy's "Forever Impeached?" So why now the need to bring forth more witnesses? Are the Dems admitting their case is full of holes?

 

[konradv]

The House is suppose to present the facts of the impeachment.
Why didn't they call witnesses for Trump in the House?
Simple answer and not many people are given the FACTS which is the fault of the GOP especially.
The Executive branch has a RIGHT to take the House witness requests to SCOTUS.
But the Democrats didn't want to have this go to SCOTUS for one reason. Time.
The Democrats wanted to speed up the impeachment process and since they had the majority in the house
there was no need.
So now the Senate does NOT need any more witnesses.

The evidence in their file sent to the Senate contained all the evidence they needed to find Trump guilty for impeachment. Remember Nancy's "Forever Impeached?" So why now the need to bring forth more witnesses? Are the Dems admitting their case is full of holes?

The Dems were stonewalled by a corrupt POTUS. Even his lawyer admits as much.

Alan Dershowitz called Trump corrupt in 2016 and said he could be corrupt as President - CNNPolitics

 

[healthmyths]

The House is suppose to present the facts of the impeachment.
Why didn't they call witnesses for Trump in the House?
Simple answer and not many people are given the FACTS which is the fault of the GOP especially.
The Executive branch has a RIGHT to take the House witness requests to SCOTUS.
But the Democrats didn't want to have this go to SCOTUS for one reason. Time.
The Democrats wanted to speed up the impeachment process and since they had the majority in the house
there was no need.
So now the Senate does NOT need any more witnesses.

The evidence in their file sent to the Senate contained all the evidence they needed to find Trump guilty for impeachment. Remember Nancy's "Forever Impeached?" So why now the need to bring forth more witnesses? Are the Dems admitting their case is full of holes?

The Dems were stonewalled by a corrupt POTUS. Even his lawyer admits as much.

Alan Dershowitz called Trump corrupt in 2016 and said he could be corrupt as President - CNNPolitics

And as part of Trump's delaying tactics if the House had called Bolton,et.al. then the Executive branch would claim executive privilege.
At that point then the House would have taken the Executive branch to SCOTUS to determine "Executive privilege" was legal.
BUT the Democrats were anxious to get this done BEFORE the 2020 elections. Knowing that the general public would be very
disgusted by the waste of time and these same Democrats would be voted out of the majority in the House.
Bye bye impeachment!

 

[BULLDOG]

The Senate should not do the work the House did not do.
You can not give the Democrats an inch,

Considering Turtle boy's remarks, he isn't giving them anything. They are taking it. ----- We call that WINNING

 

[toobfreak]

The Dems were stonewalled by a corrupt POTUS.

DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH, Komrad. Trump hasn't done anything illegal or out of the ordinary. The House literally impeached him for exercising his rights under the advice of the Dept. of Justice! Then they celebrated with gold pens. "We got Him!" This is an election year, an extraordinary circumstance, they aren't trying to impeach Donald, they are trying to have him removed from the ballot leaving them the de facto party to win!

Not on your life.

 

[jwoodie]

again, if witnesses are really what they want, then the senate must dismiss these two articles and tell the house to relitigate with their new witnesses and re-present any new articles. That's how it is set up in the constitution.

I'm not so sure about that. Would that reasoning apply to the President's witnesses as well?

As a practical approach, wouldn't it be better for the Senate to vote (and acquit) on the articles that have been submitted? This would create a negative public impression of double jeopardy if the House tried to resubmit them.

 

[Maxdeath]

Lol I remember when the house claimed they had a rock solid case. Once it got out of the partisan echo chamber of the house it no longer is.

 

[Dick Foster]

The House is suppose to present the facts of the impeachment.
Why didn't they call witnesses for Trump in the House?
Simple answer and not many people are given the FACTS which is the fault of the GOP especially.
The Executive branch has a RIGHT to take the House witness requests to SCOTUS.
But the Democrats didn't want to have this go to SCOTUS for one reason. Time.
The Democrats wanted to speed up the impeachment process and since they had the majority in the house
there was no need.
So now the Senate does NOT need any more witnesses.

The evidence in their file sent to the Senate contained all the evidence they needed to find Trump guilty for impeachment. Remember Nancy's "Forever Impeached?" So why now the need to bring forth more witnesses? Are the Dems admitting their case is full of holes?

The Dems were stonewalled by a corrupt POTUS. Even his lawyer admits as much.

Alan Dershowitz called Trump corrupt in 2016 and said he could be corrupt as President - CNNPolitics

Dumb ass, I suppose you didn't see Dershowitz's speech the other day. Now you look just like the fool you are.

 

[colfax_m]

The House is suppose to present the facts of the impeachment.
Why didn't they call witnesses for Trump in the House?
Simple answer and not many people are given the FACTS which is the fault of the GOP especially.
The Executive branch has a RIGHT to take the House witness requests to SCOTUS.
But the Democrats didn't want to have this go to SCOTUS for one reason. Time.
The Democrats wanted to speed up the impeachment process and since they had the majority in the house
there was no need.
So now the Senate does NOT need any more witnesses.

The evidence in their file sent to the Senate contained all the evidence they needed to find Trump guilty for impeachment. Remember Nancy's "Forever Impeached?" So why now the need to bring forth more witnesses? Are the Dems admitting their case is full of holes?

The Dems were stonewalled by a corrupt POTUS. Even his lawyer admits as much.

Alan Dershowitz called Trump corrupt in 2016 and said he could be corrupt as President - CNNPolitics

And as part of Trump's delaying tactics if the House had called Bolton,et.al. then the Executive branch would claim executive privilege.
At that point then the House would have taken the Executive branch to SCOTUS to determine "Executive privilege" was legal.
BUT the Democrats were anxious to get this done BEFORE the 2020 elections. Knowing that the general public would be very
disgusted by the waste of time and these same Democrats would be voted out of the majority in the House.
Bye bye impeachment!

Trump has not claimed executive privilege on anything regarding the impeachment inquiry yet, even for the people that were subpoenaed. The Trump administration could drag this out in court for years. Once this Congress ends next Jan, the subpoena's disappear.

Trump's lawyers are alleging that the court case could be settled by then, but Trump's other lawyers are in court delaying these rulings to the greatest degree possible.

This is not a way for a country to be run.

 

[colfax_m]

The House is suppose to present the facts of the impeachment.
Why didn't they call witnesses for Trump in the House?
Simple answer and not many people are given the FACTS which is the fault of the GOP especially.
The Executive branch has a RIGHT to take the House witness requests to SCOTUS.
But the Democrats didn't want to have this go to SCOTUS for one reason. Time.
The Democrats wanted to speed up the impeachment process and since they had the majority in the house
there was no need.
So now the Senate does NOT need any more witnesses.

The evidence in their file sent to the Senate contained all the evidence they needed to find Trump guilty for impeachment. Remember Nancy's "Forever Impeached?" So why now the need to bring forth more witnesses? Are the Dems admitting their case is full of holes?

The Dems were stonewalled by a corrupt POTUS. Even his lawyer admits as much.

Alan Dershowitz called Trump corrupt in 2016 and said he could be corrupt as President - CNNPolitics

Dumb ass, I suppose you didn't see Dershowitz's speech the other day. Now you look just like the fool you are.

Dershowitz has been contradicting himself. He has no principles. He looks like a fool.

 

[Maxdeath]

The House is suppose to present the facts of the impeachment.
Why didn't they call witnesses for Trump in the House?
Simple answer and not many people are given the FACTS which is the fault of the GOP especially.
The Executive branch has a RIGHT to take the House witness requests to SCOTUS.
But the Democrats didn't want to have this go to SCOTUS for one reason. Time.
The Democrats wanted to speed up the impeachment process and since they had the majority in the house
there was no need.
So now the Senate does NOT need any more witnesses.

The evidence in their file sent to the Senate contained all the evidence they needed to find Trump guilty for impeachment. Remember Nancy's "Forever Impeached?" So why now the need to bring forth more witnesses? Are the Dems admitting their case is full of holes?

The Dems were stonewalled by a corrupt POTUS. Even his lawyer admits as much.

Alan Dershowitz called Trump corrupt in 2016 and said he could be corrupt as President - CNNPolitics

And as part of Trump's delaying tactics if the House had called Bolton,et.al. then the Executive branch would claim executive privilege.
At that point then the House would have taken the Executive branch to SCOTUS to determine "Executive privilege" was legal.
BUT the Democrats were anxious to get this done BEFORE the 2020 elections. Knowing that the general public would be very
disgusted by the waste of time and these same Democrats would be voted out of the majority in the House.
Bye bye impeachment!

Trump has not claimed executive privilege on anything regarding the impeachment inquiry yet, even for the people that were subpoenaed. The Trump administration could drag this out in court for years. Once this Congress ends next Jan, the subpoena's disappear.

Trump's lawyers are alleging that the court case could be settled by then, but Trump's other lawyers are in court delaying these rulings to the greatest degree possible.

This is not a way for a country to be run.

Part of the problem lies in the fact that Pelosi never actually held a vote on wether to begin impeachment proceedings before they actually began.

 

[Maxdeath]

The House is suppose to present the facts of the impeachment.
Why didn't they call witnesses for Trump in the House?
Simple answer and not many people are given the FACTS which is the fault of the GOP especially.
The Executive branch has a RIGHT to take the House witness requests to SCOTUS.
But the Democrats didn't want to have this go to SCOTUS for one reason. Time.
The Democrats wanted to speed up the impeachment process and since they had the majority in the house
there was no need.
So now the Senate does NOT need any more witnesses.

The evidence in their file sent to the Senate contained all the evidence they needed to find Trump guilty for impeachment. Remember Nancy's "Forever Impeached?" So why now the need to bring forth more witnesses? Are the Dems admitting their case is full of holes?

The Dems were stonewalled by a corrupt POTUS. Even his lawyer admits as much.

Alan Dershowitz called Trump corrupt in 2016 and said he could be corrupt as President - CNNPolitics

Dumb ass, I suppose you didn't see Dershowitz's speech the other day. Now you look just like the fool you are.

Dershowitz has been contradicting himself. He has no principles. He looks like a fool.

Shiff looks a long way from being credible. In fact lieing clown comes to mind but he was chosen to head a portion of the impeachment and is one of the main house impeachment managers. So your point is?

 

[colfax_m]

The House is suppose to present the facts of the impeachment.
Why didn't they call witnesses for Trump in the House?
Simple answer and not many people are given the FACTS which is the fault of the GOP especially.
The Executive branch has a RIGHT to take the House witness requests to SCOTUS.
But the Democrats didn't want to have this go to SCOTUS for one reason. Time.
The Democrats wanted to speed up the impeachment process and since they had the majority in the house
there was no need.
So now the Senate does NOT need any more witnesses.

The evidence in their file sent to the Senate contained all the evidence they needed to find Trump guilty for impeachment. Remember Nancy's "Forever Impeached?" So why now the need to bring forth more witnesses? Are the Dems admitting their case is full of holes?

The Dems were stonewalled by a corrupt POTUS. Even his lawyer admits as much.

Alan Dershowitz called Trump corrupt in 2016 and said he could be corrupt as President - CNNPolitics

And as part of Trump's delaying tactics if the House had called Bolton,et.al. then the Executive branch would claim executive privilege.
At that point then the House would have taken the Executive branch to SCOTUS to determine "Executive privilege" was legal.
BUT the Democrats were anxious to get this done BEFORE the 2020 elections. Knowing that the general public would be very
disgusted by the waste of time and these same Democrats would be voted out of the majority in the House.
Bye bye impeachment!

Trump has not claimed executive privilege on anything regarding the impeachment inquiry yet, even for the people that were subpoenaed. The Trump administration could drag this out in court for years. Once this Congress ends next Jan, the subpoena's disappear.

Trump's lawyers are alleging that the court case could be settled by then, but Trump's other lawyers are in court delaying these rulings to the greatest degree possible.

This is not a way for a country to be run.

Part of the problem lies in the fact that Pelosi never actually held a vote on wether to begin impeachment proceedings before they actually began.

What is that a problem? Standing House committees have subpoena power. Subpoenas were ignored even after the vote was held.

 

[colfax_m]

The House is suppose to present the facts of the impeachment.
Why didn't they call witnesses for Trump in the House?
Simple answer and not many people are given the FACTS which is the fault of the GOP especially.
The Executive branch has a RIGHT to take the House witness requests to SCOTUS.
But the Democrats didn't want to have this go to SCOTUS for one reason. Time.
The Democrats wanted to speed up the impeachment process and since they had the majority in the house
there was no need.
So now the Senate does NOT need any more witnesses.

The evidence in their file sent to the Senate contained all the evidence they needed to find Trump guilty for impeachment. Remember Nancy's "Forever Impeached?" So why now the need to bring forth more witnesses? Are the Dems admitting their case is full of holes?

The Dems were stonewalled by a corrupt POTUS. Even his lawyer admits as much.

Alan Dershowitz called Trump corrupt in 2016 and said he could be corrupt as President - CNNPolitics

Dumb ass, I suppose you didn't see Dershowitz's speech the other day. Now you look just like the fool you are.

Dershowitz has been contradicting himself. He has no principles. He looks like a fool.

Shiff looks a long way from being credible. In fact lieing clown comes to mind but he was chosen to head a portion of the impeachment and is one of the main house impeachment managers. So your point is?

He’s more truthful than Trump’s team.

 

[konradv]

The Dems were stonewalled by a corrupt POTUS.

DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH, Komrad. Trump hasn't done anything illegal or out of the ordinary. The House literally impeached him for exercising his rights under the advice of the Dept. of Justice! Then they celebrated with gold pens. "We got Him!" This is an election year, an extraordinary circumstance, they aren't trying to impeach Donald, they are trying to have him removed from the ballot leaving them the de facto party to win! Not on your life.

It just shows how hypocritical the Trumpistas are, since they don't even care that Trump's own lawyer called him corrupt! It'd be funny, if it weren't so sad.