Why socialism is evil

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    Imagine there's an elderly widow down the street from you. She has neither the strength to mow her lawn nor enough money to hire someone to do it. Here's my question to you, and I'm almost afraid for the answer: Would you support a government mandate that forces one of your neighbors to mow the lady's lawn each week? If he failed to follow the government orders, would you approve of some kind of punishment ranging from house arrest and fines to imprisonment? I'm hoping that the average American would condemn such a government mandate because it would be a form of slavery, the forcible use of one person to serve the purposes of another.

    Would there be the same condemnation if instead of the government forcing your neighbor to physically mow the widow's lawn, the government forced him to give the lady $40 of his weekly earnings? That way the widow could hire someone to mow her lawn. I'd say that there is little difference between the mandates. While the mandate's mechanism differs, it is nonetheless the forcible use of one person to serve the purposes of another.

    Probably most Americans would have a clearer conscience if all the neighbors were forced to put money in a government pot and a government agency would send the widow a weekly sum of $40 to hire someone to mow her lawn. This mechanism makes the particular victim invisible, but it still boils down to one person being forcibly used to serve the purposes of another. Putting the money into a government pot makes palatable acts that would otherwise be deemed morally offensive.

    Full Article here: Why socialism is evil

    Walter E. Williams, Ph.D., is the John M. Olin Distinguished Professor of Economics at George Mason University in Fairfax, Va.


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    Because it is a potential threat to the people who consider themselves to be winners at capitalism.

    But Adam Smith talked about enlightened self interest.

    So why aren't all of the Capitalists and Libertarians advocating mandatory accounting in the schools?

    Fifth graders can learn accounting as well as collegians

    Double-entry accounting is 700 YEARS OLD. How hard can it be with today's computers?

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    if a frog had wings......
     
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    PS doesn't realize that some people will actually voluntarily help their neighbors.

    My brother and nephew did the yard work for the elderly woman who lived across the street from them for a few years. Nobody forced them. It was actually my nephew's idea - my brother taught him decent values.

    Big Government bleeds such decency out of a people.
     
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    Why socialism is evil?

    Because parents should have to pay for their own chhildrens education instead of everyone having to pay for it?

    Personal responsibility you know.
     
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    Utter hogwash, not worthy of consideration.

    Socialism is surely imperfect. But what existing alternative is half as good? None.

    If you want to invent something better, GREAT!

    If you just wanna kill socialism to make way for more rapacious cannibal capitalism, go to hell, Satan.
     
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    Did the retard OP just compare food and shelter to landscaping?
     
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    Where's your Ph.D? Because I merely agreed with it, rather than said it myself. :cuckoo:

    Religion here: [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD_6-e48Sto[/ame]

    PS: I am quite happy without socialism and a state capitalist model instead, as it means good health care, low unemployment, unions willing to negotiate and co-operate, and lower taxes.

    I am just waiting a few years for the HDI to be above Denmark and Australia:


    1. [​IMG] Norway 0.938 ([​IMG])
    2. [​IMG] Australia 0.937 ([​IMG])
    3. [​IMG] New Zealand 0.907 ([​IMG] 17)
    4. [​IMG] United States 0.902 ([​IMG] 9)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Development_Index
     
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    That the person who would write such nonsense is a PhD proves once more that real education requires thought, living, experience, not just the passing of artificial requirements that proclaim - or is that pretend - knowledge. Even a simple dictionary definition contains more information than our presumed educated fool. Socialism | Define Socialism at Dictionary.com

    Socialism like capitalism, like Christianity, like communism, are simply abstractions. They are words today that only gain meaning in context and use, outside of those areas they are meaningless. They possess meaning for the charlatans, as they are easy negatives, applied to whomever is the out-group at the moment. Rather than think, name call is the fool's tool.

    Another aspect to the constant need to criticize an idea is WHY? Why do some always need to pick on abstractions as if the sky were falling? What personal need drives this constant war against something that is no threat. 'Socialism' has replaced the devil, sin, and witches in the 21th century and is as real as they were.

    "Moreover, if we give the matter a moment's thought, we can see that the 20th century morality tale of 'socialism vs. freedom' or 'communism vs. capitalism' is misleading. Capitalism is not a political system; it is a form of economic life, compatible in practice with right wing dictatorships (Chile under Pinochet), left-wing dictatorships (contemporary China), social-democratic monarchies (Sweden), and plutocratic republics (the United States), whether capitalist economies thrive best under conditions of freedom is perhaps more of an open question than we like to think." Tony Judt 'Ill fares the Land'

    [ame=http://www.amazon.com/Socialism-Very-Short-Introduction-Introductions/dp/0192804316/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8]Amazon.com: Socialism: A Very Short Introduction (Very Short Introductions) (9780192804310): Michael Newman: Books[/ame]
     
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    When people reply back that something is not even worth discussing, that's generally how you know what was said was spot on.

    Whether something is a good system or not depends on the outcome you are looking for. If you are looking for a system that ensures everyone is just okay, that everyone is forced to share in the misery so to speak, I guess socialism or some form of it is the system for you.

    Most of the rest of us are not wusses who would rather not be babysat than take responsibility for our outcomes, however. Most of us would like those outcomes to be whatever we want them to be. I guess that would be a system someone like you is not interested in.
     
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