Why NOTHING should be free

[P@triot]

I live in Australia, and we get FREE hospital treatment. Walk in, get treated, walk out and not pay a cent. We pay extra tax, and you know what? Not one Australian has ever stood up and complained about this. No one has said that people should pay for themselves. No one.

Why is that?

• Because you're a bunch of Socialist assholes who never had to earn your freedom like Americans?
  
  
• To claim that "no one" in the entire nation of Australia ever has complained about taxes for that is absurd. I guarantee there are millions across Australia that do. There is no way you could possibly know what every single person thinks about it. You just illustrated what an ass you really are
  
  
• That's why your healthcare blows and why people come from both your nation and all over the world to OUR country for their healthcare.
  
  
• If Australia is soooo wonderful, why do you insist on spending all of your time on a US message board? Really sad that you feel the need to throw your two cents in on a country that you're not living in.

 

[P@triot]

where did i say the taxpayer should foot the bill dipshit?....your the one who called these people parasites you stupid fuck..... thats what i was responding too.....but your to much of an asshole to see that.....i step on shit like you everyday at work.....you stick to the bottom of shoes pretty good......you attract flies pretty good too.....now are you going to go away crying like the little pussy you are?......here let me make you feel at home.......here Rotti......here Rotti.....Woof Woof....good Rotti.....now go take a shit.....

Watching you have a meltdown is funny as hell...

This entire thread is how nothing should be free. That was the starting point, and people like you are making cases about these fictional people who have no family, no friends, no neighbors, no churches, and no charities, and are profoundly disabled. So if you're not making the case that the tax payer should pay for it (which is what the entire thread has been about), who exactly are you implying should pay for these fictional people of extreme unfortunate circumstances?!? You're in such a hissy fit, you can't even get your story straight

if you think i had a meltdown then you dont know what a meltdown is....i was responding to you calling disabled people Parasites on society.....but of course thats what your trying to avoid.....admitting you said that.....because you dont want people to think your that much of an asshole.....but hey you said it,the damage is done ......maybe you should try getting your story straight......in the meantime quit sticking your nose in peoples crotches....you look stupid...

Watching you have a meltdown is funny as hell...

I'm not trying to avoid anything - everyone here knows exactly what I said and another member (murf) even tried to explain it to your dumb ass. Maybe if you weren't in such a tizzy, you could follow the conversation.

Your sob stories about the "disabled" mean nothing. They are not the responsibility of the American tax payer no matter how much you so and/or fly off the handle like an emotional train wreck.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Watching you have a meltdown is funny as hell...

This entire thread is how nothing should be free. That was the starting point, and people like you are making cases about these fictional people who have no family, no friends, no neighbors, no churches, and no charities, and are profoundly disabled. So if you're not making the case that the tax payer should pay for it (which is what the entire thread has been about), who exactly are you implying should pay for these fictional people of extreme unfortunate circumstances?!? You're in such a hissy fit, you can't even get your story straight

if you think i had a meltdown then you dont know what a meltdown is....i was responding to you calling disabled people Parasites on society.....but of course thats what your trying to avoid.....admitting you said that.....because you dont want people to think your that much of an asshole.....but hey you said it,the damage is done ......maybe you should try getting your story straight......in the meantime quit sticking your nose in peoples crotches....you look stupid...

Watching you have a meltdown is funny as hell...

I'm not trying to avoid anything - everyone here knows exactly what I said and another member (murf) even tried to explain it to your dumb ass. Maybe if you weren't in such a tizzy, you could follow the conversation.

Your sob stories about the "disabled" mean nothing. They are not the responsibility of the American tax payer no matter how much you so and/or fly off the handle like an emotional train wreck.

well first off "Rotti"...you never answered my Question about Jill.....because you could not....and 2....maybe if you would not consider REAL disabled people "Parasites" on society you would not be considered the Asshole you are here on this message board.... yea your considered an asshole.....i know hard to believe....i was shocked myself.....do you need to be let out to take a piss?.....

 

[P@triot]

if you think i had a meltdown then you dont know what a meltdown is....i was responding to you calling disabled people Parasites on society.....but of course thats what your trying to avoid.....admitting you said that.....because you dont want people to think your that much of an asshole.....but hey you said it,the damage is done ......maybe you should try getting your story straight......in the meantime quit sticking your nose in peoples crotches....you look stupid...

Watching you have a meltdown is funny as hell...

I'm not trying to avoid anything - everyone here knows exactly what I said and another member (murf) even tried to explain it to your dumb ass. Maybe if you weren't in such a tizzy, you could follow the conversation.

Your sob stories about the "disabled" mean nothing. They are not the responsibility of the American tax payer no matter how much you so and/or fly off the handle like an emotional train wreck.

well first off "Rotti"...you never answered my Question about Jill.....because you could not....and 2....maybe if you would not consider REAL disabled people "Parasites" on society you would not be considered the Asshole you are here on this message board.... yea your considered an asshole.....i know hard to believe....i was shocked myself.....do you need to be let out to take a piss?.....

Again, you're in such an emotional tizzy, you can't even read clearly what has been written. Now, I want you to take a few really deep breaths, count to 60, find your happy place, and read my responses below instead of seeing what you want to see...

Jillian is a fucking tool of epic proportions. She spouts of radical left wing garbage and attacks weaker members here like a predator. When someone comes armed with facts (like me), she quickly disappears instead of acknowledging she was wrong on something. Furthermore, she can only be one of two things when she advocates so strongly for marxism as she does. Either A.) One of the parasites destroying this nation, or B.) A nauseating hypocrite. If she's not a parasite like you claim, then then she is a nauseating hypocrite. Why doesn't she take care of these people she sheds such giant crocodile tears for? Who the fuck is she to reach into my bank account and tell me I must support the causes that she deems worthy? Especially when she's not willing to do dick herself to help these people. Now, maybe she's some smoking hot piece of ass (or maybe she's repulsive and you're just desperate) that you're dying to get with, but that's your problem. Don't get all jacked up at me when I come with the facts. Her political views are fucking outrageous and it's very clear she can only be A or B. There is no C here my friend.

To answer your second question, I've never said dick about disabled people. You're the one who did and then mentioned the cost and shed giant crocodile tears for their parents. All I said was, "and that is the problem of the American tax payer, how?". At which point you went into epic meltdown mode and claimed you never said it should be (which then means your entire post made 0 sense since that's what we were discussing). A disabled person is not a parasite. A disabled person living off of the American tax payer is a parasite.

To break this down for you (cause I feel another epic meltdown by you coming on here):

First of all, you make the assumption that disabled = helpless infant. The reality is, even the most profoundly disabled people can (and do) work. Mentally disabled people can be trained to do remedial tasks like washing dishes, moping floors, and stacking shelves. Physically disabled people can still function at the highest levels in the private sector (ever hear of that guy named Stephen Hawking?). They can teach, provide technical support, be engineers, attorney's, etc.

For the extreme rare situation where someone has both forms of disabilities (profound disablitlies mind you), then it is the responsibility of the family, with voluntary help from their friends, their neighbors, their church, and CHARITY to provide for those people.

Disabled does not = helpless infant in 99.9% of cases. And even if it did, it's still not the responsibility of the American tax payer. History has taught us that this kind of thinking collapses nations.

 

[Duped]

I live in Australia, and we get FREE hospital treatment. Walk in, get treated, walk out and not pay a cent. We pay extra tax, and you know what? Not one Australian has ever stood up and complained about this. No one has said that people should pay for themselves. No one.

Why is that?

Don't you know nothing is free; someone is paying for it -probably a conservative.

 

[Noomi]

I live in Australia, and we get FREE hospital treatment. Walk in, get treated, walk out and not pay a cent. We pay extra tax, and you know what? Not one Australian has ever stood up and complained about this. No one has said that people should pay for themselves. No one.

Why is that?

you also live in a Country with 22 million people.....i live in a State that has almost twice that.....its alot easier to administer to 22 million as compared to 300 million....and costs much less.....

Everyone pays an extra one percent in taxes and you should be more than covered.

 

[Noomi]

I live in Australia, and we get FREE hospital treatment. Walk in, get treated, walk out and not pay a cent. We pay extra tax, and you know what? Not one Australian has ever stood up and complained about this. No one has said that people should pay for themselves. No one.

Why is that?

Don't you know nothing is free; someone is paying for it -probably a conservative.

And so they bloody well should.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Watching you have a meltdown is funny as hell...

I'm not trying to avoid anything - everyone here knows exactly what I said and another member (murf) even tried to explain it to your dumb ass. Maybe if you weren't in such a tizzy, you could follow the conversation.

Your sob stories about the "disabled" mean nothing. They are not the responsibility of the American tax payer no matter how much you so and/or fly off the handle like an emotional train wreck.

well first off "Rotti"...you never answered my Question about Jill.....because you could not....and 2....maybe if you would not consider REAL disabled people "Parasites" on society you would not be considered the Asshole you are here on this message board.... yea your considered an asshole.....i know hard to believe....i was shocked myself.....do you need to be let out to take a piss?.....

Again, you're in such an emotional tizzy, you can't even read clearly what has been written. Now, I want you to take a few really deep breaths, count to 60, find your happy place, and read my responses below instead of seeing what you want to see...

Jillian is a fucking tool of epic proportions. She spouts of radical left wing garbage and attacks weaker members here like a predator. When someone comes armed with facts (like me), she quickly disappears instead of acknowledging she was wrong on something. Furthermore, she can only be one of two things when she advocates so strongly for marxism as she does. Either A.) One of the parasites destroying this nation, or B.) A nauseating hypocrite. If she's not a parasite like you claim, then then she is a nauseating hypocrite. Why doesn't she take care of these people she sheds such giant crocodile tears for? Who the fuck is she to reach into my bank account and tell me I must support the causes that she deems worthy? Especially when she's not willing to do dick herself to help these people. Now, maybe she's some smoking hot piece of ass (or maybe she's repulsive and you're just desperate) that you're dying to get with, but that's your problem. Don't get all jacked up at me when I come with the facts. Her political views are fucking outrageous and it's very clear she can only be A or B. There is no C here my friend.

To answer your second question, I've never said dick about disabled people. You're the one who did and then mentioned the cost and shed giant crocodile tears for their parents. All I said was, "and that is the problem of the American tax payer, how?". At which point you went into epic meltdown mode and claimed you never said it should be (which then means your entire post made 0 sense since that's what we were discussing). A disabled person is not a parasite. A disabled person living off of the American tax payer is a parasite.

To break this down for you (cause I feel another epic meltdown by you coming on here):

First of all, you make the assumption that disabled = helpless infant. The reality is, even the most profoundly disabled people can (and do) work. Mentally disabled people can be trained to do remedial tasks like washing dishes, moping floors, and stacking shelves. Physically disabled people can still function at the highest levels in the private sector (ever hear of that guy named Stephen Hawking?). They can teach, provide technical support, be engineers, attorney's, etc.

For the extreme rare situation where someone has both forms of disabilities (profound disablitlies mind you), then it is the responsibility of the family, with voluntary help from their friends, their neighbors, their church, and CHARITY to provide for those people.

Disabled does not = helpless infant in 99.9% of cases. And even if it did, it's still not the responsibility of the American tax payer. History has taught us that this kind of thinking collapses nations.

I've never said dick about disabled people

sure you never did......you said "DEPENDENT" people ....are Parasites on society....are you now another "TruthMatters"?......wont admit what you said?............oh and nice meltdown.....when you post as much as you did "Rotti" in reaction to what i said.....its called a meltdown.....now you know the meaning and you just gave the example of one.....thanx....

 

[Moonglow]

I live in Australia, and we get FREE hospital treatment. Walk in, get treated, walk out and not pay a cent. We pay extra tax, and you know what? Not one Australian has ever stood up and complained about this. No one has said that people should pay for themselves. No one.

Why is that?

Don't you know nothing is free; someone is paying for it -probably a conservative.

yeah, I am tired an wore out from not working.

 

[P@triot]

I live in Australia, and we get FREE hospital treatment. Walk in, get treated, walk out and not pay a cent. We pay extra tax, and you know what? Not one Australian has ever stood up and complained about this. No one has said that people should pay for themselves. No one.

Why is that?

Don't you know nothing is free; someone is paying for it -probably a conservative.

And so they bloody well should.

Spoken like a true parasite. Just out of curiosity, what makes you feel so entitled to what other people earn, that you would so arrogantly state "they bloody well should"? You really are despicable.

Since you support slavery and force so much, I wonder how you'd feel if you were abducted, drugged, and sold into the sex slave market. And when someone asked about your situation of being forced to work and the money going to someone else, we could all respond "and so she bloody well should". Something tells me your despicable smug entitled attitude would change. Hypocrite...

 

[P@triot]

I've never said dick about disabled people

sure you never did......you said "DEPENDENT" people ....are Parasites on society....are you now another "TruthMatters"?......wont admit what you said?............oh and nice meltdown.....when you post as much as you did "Rotti" in reaction to what i said.....its called a meltdown.....now you know the meaning and you just gave the example of one.....thanx....

I'm not the one with my panties in a bunch. I had to post that much because you were accusing me of not answering your question and because you weren't reading what was written in your overly emotional state.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I've never said dick about disabled people

sure you never did......you said "DEPENDENT" people ....are Parasites on society....are you now another "TruthMatters"?......wont admit what you said?............oh and nice meltdown.....when you post as much as you did "Rotti" in reaction to what i said.....its called a meltdown.....now you know the meaning and you just gave the example of one.....thanx....

I'm not the one with my panties in a bunch. I had to post that much because you were accusing me of not answering your question and because you weren't reading what was written in your overly emotional state.

you had to post it?.........you could have summed it up in a small paragraph..... nice meltdown Rotti.....it was fun.......

 

[American_Jihad]

Email I received today...

The folks who are getting free stuff, don't like the folks who are paying for the free stuff,
because the folks who are paying for the free stuff can no longer afford to pay for both the free
stuff and their own stuff.

The folks who are paying for the free stuff want the free stuff to stop, and the folks who are getting the free stuff want even more free stuff on top of the free stuff they are already getting!

Now... The people who are forcing the people to pay for the free stuff have told the people who are RECEIVING the free stuff, that the people who are PAYING for the free stuff, are being mean, prejudiced, and racist.

So... The people who are GETTING the free stuff have been convinced they need to hate the people who are paying for the free stuff by the people who are forcing some people to pay for their free stuff, and giving them the free stuff in the first place.

We have let the free stuff giving go on for so long that there are now more people getting free stuff than paying for the free stuff.

Now understand this. All great democracies have committed financial suicidesomewhere between 200 and 250 years after being founded. The reason?The voters figured out they could vote themselves money from the treasury by electing people who promised to give them money from the treasury in exchange for electing them.
Thomas Jefferson said it best: "The democracy (Republic) will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not."

The United States officially became a Republic in 1776, 235 years ago. The number of people now getting free stuff outnumbers the people paying for the free stuff. We have one chance to change that On Nov 6th, 2012. Failure to change that spells the end of the United States as we know it.

ELECTION 2012 IS COMING

A Nation of Sheep Breeds a Government of Wolves!

I'M 100% for PASSING THIS ON!!!

Let's take a stand!!!

Obama:Gone!
Borders: Closed!
Language: English only
Culture: Constitution, and the Bill of Rights!
Drug Free: Mandatory Drug Screening before Welfare!
NO freebies to: Non-Citizens!

We the people are coming
Only 86% will send this on. Should be 100%. What will you do?

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"The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money". -- Margaret Thatcher

I found this on the net...

The folks who are getting free stuff, don't like the folks who are paying for the free stuff, because the folks who are paying for the free stuff can no longer afford to pay for both the free stuff and their own stuff - Google Search.

 

[American_Jihad]

College Voters for Obama Agree: Free Stuff is Awesome (Video)

By: Ben Howe
September 18th, 2012

Like wildfire across the internet, the debate over the great secret video of 2012 has conquered the media. Many are taking great offense at the notion that 47% of voters are either dependent on the government or support policies of dependency.
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[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daV7hvK7NGw]Obama's next term? Free stuff! - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Oldstyle]

Do college kids not take economics anymore? Do they not understand that we can't keep spending at the rate we are now without the entire house of cards collapsing? I mean, come on...these are supposed to be the best and brightest and yet they're so incredibly naive about the world they live in that it's scary.

 

[P@triot]

Do college kids not take economics anymore? Do they not understand that we can't keep spending at the rate we are now without the entire house of cards collapsing? I mean, come on...these are supposed to be the best and brightest and yet they're so incredibly naive about the world they live in that it's scary.

Sadly, the "brightest" usually tend to be two things:

1.) VERY weak minded (and thus are brainwashed by our liberal professors)

2.) INSANE... literally. Look at some of the smartest people in history - more than a few of them have literally gone clinically insane:

Bobby Fischer
Ted Kaczynski
Richard Loeb
Nathan Leopold

 

[Chris]

Do college kids not take economics anymore? Do they not understand that we can't keep spending at the rate we are now without the entire house of cards collapsing? I mean, come on...these are supposed to be the best and brightest and yet they're so incredibly naive about the world they live in that it's scary.

Yes.

Cut the defense budget and raise taxes on the idle rich.

 

[P@triot]

Do college kids not take economics anymore? Do they not understand that we can't keep spending at the rate we are now without the entire house of cards collapsing? I mean, come on...these are supposed to be the best and brightest and yet they're so incredibly naive about the world they live in that it's scary.

Yes.

Cut the defense budget and raise taxes on the idle rich.

That's what Bill Clinton did, and we suffered more terrorist attacks under him than all other presidents combined in US history. In addition to that fact, he started the economic collapse.

Cut the unconstitutional entitlement programs, lower taxes, and increase the defense budget. All problems solved!

 

[chikenwing]

But those who want ro pay no taxes seem to think that living in the USA should be free.

Where do they get this shit from,who has said we should pay no taxes?? Wait the one's that already don't are getting it free.

And don't drag out they pay state and local taxes we are talking Federal taxes.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Well, nothing is free. So it's kind of a false argement. Now, if you want to talk about those who claim the authority to use force and coercion to steal from those who prodeuce and give it to those who do not, then we can talk abou that. But nothing is free.

Only in LOLberal land is anything free.