Zone1 Why not just amend the National Firearms Act to include ARs and AKs?

[alang1216]

Interesting.
How does this support your claim that "activist judges on the supreme court rewrote precedence in 2008"?
How does this support your claim that "contained [in the Miller} decision is language that explicitly states the 2nd was not an individual right"?

Scalia deciding the 2nd was an individual right seems exactly comparable to the right to privacy decision in Roe v Wade.

 

[alang1216]

According to you:

Scalia, etc, are not activist judges.

Except they invented a right that didn't previously exist.

 

[Esdraelon]

I amazes me how people can be so in their bubble they have no clue what the average American thinks.

You misunderstand. It isn't that we don't "know" what average Americans think. Where 2A is concerned we don't GAF what they think.

 

[Esdraelon]

Would you outlaw this?

This^ gets the gullible, every time. When you try to explain that the "assault weapons" can look like that mini-14, they lose their minds.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

They need to define them correctly first, guns sold to the public may look like assault weapons but aren't anything close to those used by the military, swat, and other tactical units.

Police such as swat and alert response teams use ar 15s

 

[alang1216]

You misunderstand. It isn't that we don't "know" what average Americans think. Where 2A is concerned we don't GAF what they think.

I think that is exactly what Marie Antoinette said when they showed her the guillotine. When did the Right give up on democracy and prefer authoritarian rule?

 

[M14 Shooter]

Scalia deciding the 2nd was an individual right seems exactly comparable to the right to privacy decision in Roe v Wade.

Look at you, desperately trying to avoid the fact you disproved your own claims.
You lied to make a point.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Except they invented a right that didn't previously exist.

What USSC decision did they overturn?

 

[M14 Shooter]

When did the Right give up on democracy and prefer authoritarian rule?

Silly you, chosing to not understand that the Constitution, and the protections afforded to certain rights under it, overrule the majority.

 

[easyt65]

I wonder if it's possible to have a real discussion on so called "assault weapons" without it devolving into hysterics.

Democrats attempt to CONTROL THE LANGUAGE so they can define terms before attempting to disengenously engage in discussion.

For example, they don't really know what a 'woman' or an 'assault weapon' are, but they try to apply and enforce their liberal extremist definitions that give them an argument that helps them accomplish their agendas.

The 1st obstacle to discussions with liberal extremists / Democrats is their demand to use THEIR definitions in discussion.

 

[M14 Shooter]

Democrats attempt to CONTROL THE LANGUAGE so they can define terms before attempting to disengenously engage in discussion.

Because they know they can prey upon the emotions of the ignorant.

 

[AZrailwhale]

When justices reshape decades of precedent they are "activist judges". When they rule as we'd like they are 'good' and we applaud them, I get that but it changes nothing.

SCOTUS doesn’t rule based upon precedent. Lower courts do that. SCOTUS rules based upon the CONSTITUTION. If SCOTUS ruled based on precedent segregation would still be the law of the land as would the criminalization of mixed race marraiges.

 

[AZrailwhale]

Police such as swat and alert response teams use ar 15s

No, they use M-4s, full auto submachine guns and bolt action hunting rifles as sniper weapons. Regular cops sometimes carry AR-15s or CAR-15s.

 

[DudleySmith]

Why not just admit the Constitution doesn't mean squat and hasn't since 1861? No need to cherry pick one or two little things according to current fads. It was toast the second Chief Justice Tainey died and the last restraints on Lincoln's dictatorship and murder spree were removed, and it never recovered from the corruption of the Chase Court and the Grant administration.

Nobody is going to turn in 400 million guns, no matter how many laws and regulations are passed; it's a moot issue. Confiscation won't work either; open borders guarantee that tactic will fail, and both Parties favor floods of cheap docile labor, the more the better. It's a dead issue.

 

[Rye Catcher]

The following is a partial list of when an AR-15-style weapon was used in a mass shooting:

• May 24, 2022: The Uvalde, Texas, mass shooting at Robb Elementary School that killed 19 students and two teachers.
• May 14, 2022: The Buffalo, N.Y., Tops supermarket shooting that left 10 people dead.
• Feb. 14, 2018: Shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School in Fla., leaves 17 people dead.
• Nov. 5, 2017: The Sutherland Springs, Texas, church shooting that claimed 26 lives.
• Oct. 1, 2017: The Las Vegas slaughter of 58 people. Two others died later from their injuries.
• June 12, 2016: The Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, Fla., that left 49 dead.
• Dec. 2, 2015: The San Bernardino, Calif., shooting that killed 14 people.
• Dec. 14, 2012: The shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that took 27 lives.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The following is a partial list of when an AR-15-style weapon was used in a mass shooting:

20,000,000 ARs in the US.
In the 636 mass shootings in 2022, 8 of them involved ARs
To your post:
So?

 

[Burgermeister]

Make them define what they are talking about before validating their purposely vague political jargon with any discussion about policy.

 

[Flash]

The following is a partial list of when an AR-15-style weapon was used in a mass shooting:

• May 24, 2022: The Uvalde, Texas, mass shooting at Robb Elementary School that killed 19 students and two teachers.
• May 14, 2022: The Buffalo, N.Y., Tops supermarket shooting that left 10 people dead.
• Feb. 14, 2018: Shooting at Stoneman Douglas High School in Fla., leaves 17 people dead.
• Nov. 5, 2017: The Sutherland Springs, Texas, church shooting that claimed 26 lives.
• Oct. 1, 2017: The Las Vegas slaughter of 58 people. Two others died later from their injuries.
• June 12, 2016: The Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando, Fla., that left 49 dead.
• Dec. 2, 2015: The San Bernardino, Calif., shooting that killed 14 people.
• Dec. 14, 2012: The shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut that took 27 lives.

...and every day in Chicago a couple of dozen or more Negroes shoot one another because the Democrat leaders refuse to enforce laws.

 

[Flash]

The National Firearms Act is unconstitutional. Big time unconstitutional.

 

[M14 Shooter]

The National Firearms Act is unconstitutional. Big time unconstitutional.

Especially now that assault rifles, weapons of war and SBRs are "in common use" -- and thus, "bearable arms".