Why is the gay community afraid of "conversion therapy"?

[healthmyths]

Conversion therapy (also known as reparative therapy) is a range of treatments that aim to change sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual. Such treatments have been criticized for being pseudo-scientific.
Conversion therapy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The major premise of conversion therapy advocates is that majority of homosexuals are NOT genetically pre-disposed but a learned behavior.

So if the gay community believes so strongly that there is a "I gotta be me" genetic coding that pre-disposes a person to homosexuality why are they so afraid?

So afraid that "conversion therapy aimed at turning gay kids straight will soon be illegal in California, with the state's governor declaring he hopes a new law will relegate such efforts "to the dustbin of quackery."
This bill bans non-scientific 'therapies' that have driven young people to depression and suicide," Brown tweeted. "These practices have no basis in science or medicine."
California governor OKs ban on gay conversion therapy, calling it 'quackery' - CNN.com

Why is there such angst about something that a gay MUST be?

I have NO doubt some "suicides" but HOW MANY ? Where are the facts Mr. Brown?

People are gay for two reasons:
1) they truly were born with a genetic pre-disposition to homosexuality
2) The behavior is learned.

Those are the ONLY two ways that a homosexual IS a homosexual.

I would like anyone to refute that.

 

[occupied]

I wonder if there is a conversion therapy for willfully ignorant people. A better question is why do you care who other people sleep with?

 

[skookerasbil]

They should convert......think of the reduction in the misery/confusion level of these people?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Because conversion therapy is based on a false premise.

hm, once again you post material that undermines your OP.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Then why not conversion-to-lesbianism therapy for poor women who might have too many children?

lol

 

[JakeStarkey]

Or far right wing conversion therapy to normality for people who just don't get it.

 

[Zmrzlina]

What consenting individuals do in the bedroom is their business alone.

 

[Katzndogz]

They aren't afraid of conversion therapy. Just when it's used on them. Gays have managed to get all different kinds of straight people sent to conversion therapy to make them more gay friendly.

 

[shart_attack]

Every (supposedly) "gay" man I've ever met has said he gets aroused watching heterosexual porn.

That tells me all I need to know about their supposedly genetic predisposition.

 

[JakeStarkey]

They aren't afraid of conversion therapy. Just when it's used on them. Gays have managed to get all different kinds of straight people sent to conversion therapy to make them more gay friendly.

One of the types of lies that is going to result in marriage equality by the of the SCOTUS term next year.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Every (supposedly) "gay" man I've ever met has said he gets aroused watching heterosexual porn.

That tells me all I need to know about their supposedly genetic predisposition.

No gay man has told you any such thing.

 

[shart_attack]

Every (supposedly) "gay" man I've ever met has said he gets aroused watching heterosexual porn.

That tells me all I need to know about their supposedly genetic predisposition.

No gay man has told you any such thing.

Yeah, they have.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Every (supposedly) "gay" man I've ever met has said he gets aroused watching heterosexual porn.

That tells me all I need to know about their supposedly genetic predisposition.

lots of straight guys get turned on watching 2 woman go at it.....what does that say?.....

 

[Disir]

Every (supposedly) "gay" man I've ever met has said he gets aroused watching heterosexual porn.

That tells me all I need to know about their supposedly genetic predisposition.

No gay man has told you any such thing.

Yeah, they have.

[ame=http://youtu.be/iKB7vAFTdA8]Do Homophobes like Pr0n? - YouTube[/ame]

 

[bodecea]

Every (supposedly) "gay" man I've ever met has said he gets aroused watching heterosexual porn.

That tells me all I need to know about their supposedly genetic predisposition.

Well...those have got to be some interesting conversations you have.

 

[Nyvin]

Conversion therapy (also known as reparative therapy) is a range of treatments that aim to change sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual. Such treatments have been criticized for being pseudo-scientific.
Conversion therapy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The major premise of conversion therapy advocates is that majority of homosexuals are NOT genetically pre-disposed but a learned behavior.

So if the gay community believes so strongly that there is a "I gotta be me" genetic coding that pre-disposes a person to homosexuality why are they so afraid?

So afraid that "conversion therapy aimed at turning gay kids straight will soon be illegal in California, with the state's governor declaring he hopes a new law will relegate such efforts "to the dustbin of quackery."
This bill bans non-scientific 'therapies' that have driven young people to depression and suicide," Brown tweeted. "These practices have no basis in science or medicine."
California governor OKs ban on gay conversion therapy, calling it 'quackery' - CNN.com

Why is there such angst about something that a gay MUST be?

I have NO doubt some "suicides" but HOW MANY ? Where are the facts Mr. Brown?

People are gay for two reasons:
1) they truly were born with a genetic pre-disposition to homosexuality
2) The behavior is learned.

Those are the ONLY two ways that a homosexual IS a homosexual.

I would like anyone to refute that.

Because it overwhelmingly targets young males who are already in a state of identity confusion and development anyway. The programs exploit any and all guilt and anxiety the person feels from society and confirms negative feelings they get from society for being gay.

You basically take negativity the person gets from peer pressure and capitalize on it to get the person to believe that they are "abnormal" and "different" and need to change. It almost always leads to major depression and thoughts of suicide and the person is rarely if ever any better off after the conversion therapy is "done" (whatever "done" is...).

It's not just gays that don't like it either, the American Medical Association, American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy, the American Counseling Association, the National Association of Social Workers, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the American Academy of Physician Assistants....................ALL of them are against gay conversion therapy.

The only support gay conversion therapy gets is from...surprise surprise....religiously linked, church funded right wing groups who basically deny any and all scientific data and say "no no no, we do the right thing, we make these weirdos normal people!"

 

[The Rabbi]

Gays have a problem keeping things straight, so to speak.
First they claim that no one would choose to be gay. Then they claim that they dont want any help in overcoming their perversion.
The truth is they not only embrace homsoexuality, defining themselves by it, but think it should be the preferential choice. Thus the efforts to inflate the number of homosexuals in America via discredited stats. And the efforts to introduce homosexuality as normative in schools at ever younger ages.

 

[rdean]

Conversion therapy (also known as reparative therapy) is a range of treatments that aim to change sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual. Such treatments have been criticized for being pseudo-scientific.
Conversion therapy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The major premise of conversion therapy advocates is that majority of homosexuals are NOT genetically pre-disposed but a learned behavior.

So if the gay community believes so strongly that there is a "I gotta be me" genetic coding that pre-disposes a person to homosexuality why are they so afraid?

So afraid that "conversion therapy aimed at turning gay kids straight will soon be illegal in California, with the state's governor declaring he hopes a new law will relegate such efforts "to the dustbin of quackery."
This bill bans non-scientific 'therapies' that have driven young people to depression and suicide," Brown tweeted. "These practices have no basis in science or medicine."
California governor OKs ban on gay conversion therapy, calling it 'quackery' - CNN.com

Why is there such angst about something that a gay MUST be?

I have NO doubt some "suicides" but HOW MANY ? Where are the facts Mr. Brown?

People are gay for two reasons:
1) they truly were born with a genetic pre-disposition to homosexuality
2) The behavior is learned.

Those are the ONLY two ways that a homosexual IS a homosexual.

I would like anyone to refute that.

Tell us how easy is it so "learn" to suc..............

 

[The Rabbi]

Conversion therapy (also known as reparative therapy) is a range of treatments that aim to change sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual. Such treatments have been criticized for being pseudo-scientific.
Conversion therapy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The major premise of conversion therapy advocates is that majority of homosexuals are NOT genetically pre-disposed but a learned behavior.

So if the gay community believes so strongly that there is a "I gotta be me" genetic coding that pre-disposes a person to homosexuality why are they so afraid?

So afraid that "conversion therapy aimed at turning gay kids straight will soon be illegal in California, with the state's governor declaring he hopes a new law will relegate such efforts "to the dustbin of quackery."
This bill bans non-scientific 'therapies' that have driven young people to depression and suicide," Brown tweeted. "These practices have no basis in science or medicine."
California governor OKs ban on gay conversion therapy, calling it 'quackery' - CNN.com

Why is there such angst about something that a gay MUST be?

I have NO doubt some "suicides" but HOW MANY ? Where are the facts Mr. Brown?

People are gay for two reasons:
1) they truly were born with a genetic pre-disposition to homosexuality
2) The behavior is learned.

Those are the ONLY two ways that a homosexual IS a homosexual.

I would like anyone to refute that.

Because it overwhelmingly targets young males who are already in a state of identity confusion and development anyway. The programs exploit any and all guilt and anxiety the person feels from society and confirms negative feelings they get from society for being gay.

You basically take negativity the person gets from peer pressure and capitalize on it to get the person to believe that they are "abnormal" and "different" and need to change. It almost always leads to major depression and thoughts of suicide and the person is rarely if ever any better off after the conversion therapy is "done" (whatever "done" is...).

It's not just gays that don't like it either, the American Medical Association, American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy, the American Counseling Association, the National Association of Social Workers, the American Academy of Pediatrics, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the American Academy of Physician Assistants....................ALL of them are against gay conversion therapy.

The only support gay conversion therapy gets is from...surprise surprise....religiously link, church funded right wing groups who basically deny any and all scientific data and say "no no no, we do the right thing, we make these weirdos normal people!"

So attempts to help young men having identity crises are bad? I thought libs cared about people.

 

[Seawytch]

Every (supposedly) "gay" man I've ever met has said he gets aroused watching heterosexual porn.

That tells me all I need to know about their supposedly genetic predisposition.

You are full of shit.

Study finds sex differences in relationship between arousal and orientation
New evidence has emerged suggesting that the tendency for gay men to become aroused only to same-sex images and heterosexual men to become aroused only to opposite-sex images is not true of women.

Now this is the one folks are ascairt of...

Homophobic Men Most Aroused by Gay Male Porn