Why is racial pride only frowned upon when "white" is the race?

[harmonica]

please prove that
blacks commit more hate crimes per capita--so they hate more-- as a group

How many people are convicted of hate crimes is how you determine which group hates more?

and your stats??
Offenders

over TWICE the rate of whites!!!!!

I'm not denying that. I'm saying that extrapolating the amount of hate a group has from hate crime stats, particularly when those stats encompass fewer than 6000 people, is ridiculous.

then how can you say whites are just as racist??

I didn't say that.....but I wouldn't base my opinion on whether racism is as prevalent in whites as blacks solely, or even mostly, on hate crime stats.

my mistake then

 

[AKIP]

There is a common misconception that the Alt-Right is entirely racist. It is not true. Why is it racists have pride in your race? Every other race other than whites can have pride but when whites do it it is racist. Get your priorities strait.

I would guess its akin to the same reason that people with a HISTORY of not paying their bills cannot get a loan while someone without a bad history can get a loan. Or, think of the person who has a history of lying wanting to know why when another person says something they are to be believed but when they say something people do not want to believe it.

Moral of the story: "A person who does not respect and or know history will never be able to make sense of the present".

 

[Montrovant]

How many people are convicted of hate crimes is how you determine which group hates more?

and your stats??
Offenders

over TWICE the rate of whites!!!!!

I'm not denying that. I'm saying that extrapolating the amount of hate a group has from hate crime stats, particularly when those stats encompass fewer than 6000 people, is ridiculous.

the blacks commit hate crimes at over twice the rate of whites
they are committing hate crimes at over twice the rate
this says they have a problem with hate at over twice the rate of whites

bullshit...I gave out this statistic on another forum--what a bombshell !!!!!!!!!!!
what is in the MSM?? what do blacks say?? WHITES commit so many hate crimes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we see that is bullshit!!
...boy--that hate crime statistic really throws people off--who would think that if you read the news????

whites just as racist --prove it

I don't consider "having a problem with hate" to be solely the province of those committing hate crimes. Why you conflate the two, I'm not sure. I would almost certainly be considered to have (or at least have had) "a problem with hate," yet I have never been convicted nor charged with a hate crime. Very few people appear to be convicted of hate crimes, at least federally. Hate crimes are not the only crimes committed because of hatred. Generalizing millions of people "having a problem with hate" because a small number are convicted of or charged with hate crimes is ridiculous.

hold it
the black population commits hate crimes at twice the rate--and you say that means nothing??

No, I didn't say that. It means that blacks are convicted of hate crimes at twice the rate of whites. I don't think it means much other other than that. I certainly wouldn't extrapolate from those hate crime stats that blacks are more hateful people than whites.

 

[ding]

and your stats??
Offenders

over TWICE the rate of whites!!!!!

I'm not denying that. I'm saying that extrapolating the amount of hate a group has from hate crime stats, particularly when those stats encompass fewer than 6000 people, is ridiculous.

the blacks commit hate crimes at over twice the rate of whites
they are committing hate crimes at over twice the rate
this says they have a problem with hate at over twice the rate of whites

bullshit...I gave out this statistic on another forum--what a bombshell !!!!!!!!!!!
what is in the MSM?? what do blacks say?? WHITES commit so many hate crimes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we see that is bullshit!!
...boy--that hate crime statistic really throws people off--who would think that if you read the news????

whites just as racist --prove it

I don't consider "having a problem with hate" to be solely the province of those committing hate crimes. Why you conflate the two, I'm not sure. I would almost certainly be considered to have (or at least have had) "a problem with hate," yet I have never been convicted nor charged with a hate crime. Very few people appear to be convicted of hate crimes, at least federally. Hate crimes are not the only crimes committed because of hatred. Generalizing millions of people "having a problem with hate" because a small number are convicted of or charged with hate crimes is ridiculous.

hold it
the black population commits hate crimes at twice the rate--and you say that means nothing??

No, I didn't say that. It means that blacks are convicted of hate crimes at twice the rate of whites. I don't think it means much other other than that. I certainly wouldn't extrapolate from those hate crime stats that blacks are more hateful people than whites.

If it were the other way around would you? Because most would. That's almost racist in itself.

 

[Slyhunter]

White race is superior!
Because we are Mutts. We are a mixture of, hopefully, the best of all the other races combined. Though Asians are sexier, and brown skin is prettier.

 

[Lykia]

when it comes to discrimination among skin colors, yes, there is white privilege!!
this is a factor to why people dislike the "white Pride" thing, because you're being proud of a history were u oppressed others


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[Slyhunter]

when it comes to discrimination among skin colors, yes, there is white privilege!!
this is a factor to why people dislike the "white Pride" thing, because you're being proud of a history were u oppressed others


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How about being proud of a history where we were just like everyone else? You know killing them to get their land, raping their women, enslaving their men. That what all the other races were doing.

 

[Montrovant]

I'm not denying that. I'm saying that extrapolating the amount of hate a group has from hate crime stats, particularly when those stats encompass fewer than 6000 people, is ridiculous.

the blacks commit hate crimes at over twice the rate of whites
they are committing hate crimes at over twice the rate
this says they have a problem with hate at over twice the rate of whites

bullshit...I gave out this statistic on another forum--what a bombshell !!!!!!!!!!!
what is in the MSM?? what do blacks say?? WHITES commit so many hate crimes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we see that is bullshit!!
...boy--that hate crime statistic really throws people off--who would think that if you read the news????

whites just as racist --prove it

I don't consider "having a problem with hate" to be solely the province of those committing hate crimes. Why you conflate the two, I'm not sure. I would almost certainly be considered to have (or at least have had) "a problem with hate," yet I have never been convicted nor charged with a hate crime. Very few people appear to be convicted of hate crimes, at least federally. Hate crimes are not the only crimes committed because of hatred. Generalizing millions of people "having a problem with hate" because a small number are convicted of or charged with hate crimes is ridiculous.

hold it
the black population commits hate crimes at twice the rate--and you say that means nothing??

No, I didn't say that. It means that blacks are convicted of hate crimes at twice the rate of whites. I don't think it means much other other than that. I certainly wouldn't extrapolate from those hate crime stats that blacks are more hateful people than whites.

If it were the other way around would you? Because most would. That's almost racist in itself.

I've never before heard anyone try to connect hate crime rates to the amount of general hate in a group. I don't care who is convicted at what rate; hate crimes are not the same thing as the amount of hatred within a group. As I said, I'm sure that plenty of people would have considered me to "have a problem with hate" when I was younger, yet I have never been convicted nor charged with a hate crime.

Hatred encompasses far, far more than hate crimes do. Also, hate crimes are prosecuted far too infrequently to be indicative of an entire race's predilection to commit such crimes, let alone of an entire race's degree of hate in general.

 

[harmonica]

the blacks commit hate crimes at over twice the rate of whites
they are committing hate crimes at over twice the rate
this says they have a problem with hate at over twice the rate of whites

bullshit...I gave out this statistic on another forum--what a bombshell !!!!!!!!!!!
what is in the MSM?? what do blacks say?? WHITES commit so many hate crimes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
we see that is bullshit!!
...boy--that hate crime statistic really throws people off--who would think that if you read the news????

whites just as racist --prove it

I don't consider "having a problem with hate" to be solely the province of those committing hate crimes. Why you conflate the two, I'm not sure. I would almost certainly be considered to have (or at least have had) "a problem with hate," yet I have never been convicted nor charged with a hate crime. Very few people appear to be convicted of hate crimes, at least federally. Hate crimes are not the only crimes committed because of hatred. Generalizing millions of people "having a problem with hate" because a small number are convicted of or charged with hate crimes is ridiculous.

hold it
the black population commits hate crimes at twice the rate--and you say that means nothing??

No, I didn't say that. It means that blacks are convicted of hate crimes at twice the rate of whites. I don't think it means much other other than that. I certainly wouldn't extrapolate from those hate crime stats that blacks are more hateful people than whites.

If it were the other way around would you? Because most would. That's almost racist in itself.

I've never before heard anyone try to connect hate crime rates to the amount of general hate in a group. I don't care who is convicted at what rate; hate crimes are not the same thing as the amount of hatred within a group. As I said, I'm sure that plenty of people would have considered me to "have a problem with hate" when I was younger, yet I have never been convicted nor charged with a hate crime.

Hatred encompasses far, far more than hate crimes do. Also, hate crimes are prosecuted far too infrequently to be indicative of an entire race's predilection to commit such crimes, let alone of an entire race's degree of hate in general.

HATE crime is HATE !!
so how would you measure group hate?
yes too infrequently for blacks!! I see numerous times blacks murder/rape/attack/etc whites and it's not labeled a hate crime
where as if a white says the word ''vanilla'' --HATE CRIME

 

[Montrovant]

I don't consider "having a problem with hate" to be solely the province of those committing hate crimes. Why you conflate the two, I'm not sure. I would almost certainly be considered to have (or at least have had) "a problem with hate," yet I have never been convicted nor charged with a hate crime. Very few people appear to be convicted of hate crimes, at least federally. Hate crimes are not the only crimes committed because of hatred. Generalizing millions of people "having a problem with hate" because a small number are convicted of or charged with hate crimes is ridiculous.

hold it
the black population commits hate crimes at twice the rate--and you say that means nothing??

No, I didn't say that. It means that blacks are convicted of hate crimes at twice the rate of whites. I don't think it means much other other than that. I certainly wouldn't extrapolate from those hate crime stats that blacks are more hateful people than whites.

If it were the other way around would you? Because most would. That's almost racist in itself.

I've never before heard anyone try to connect hate crime rates to the amount of general hate in a group. I don't care who is convicted at what rate; hate crimes are not the same thing as the amount of hatred within a group. As I said, I'm sure that plenty of people would have considered me to "have a problem with hate" when I was younger, yet I have never been convicted nor charged with a hate crime.

Hatred encompasses far, far more than hate crimes do. Also, hate crimes are prosecuted far too infrequently to be indicative of an entire race's predilection to commit such crimes, let alone of an entire race's degree of hate in general.

HATE crime is HATE !!
so how would you measure group hate?
yes too infrequently for blacks!! I see numerous times blacks murder/rape/attack/etc whites and it's not labeled a hate crime
where as if a white says the word ''vanilla'' --HATE CRIME

I would not try to measure group hate. It's too subjective and difficult to quantify. If I say I hate the Dallas Cowboys, does that qualify as hate? If I say I hate people who use the wrong version of there, their, or they're, does that qualify as hate?

To use the hate crimes example, if I kill someone because I hate them personally, it is not a hate crime. Does that mean I did not hate them?

You complain that whites are too often charged with hate crimes at the same time you point out that blacks are more frequently charged with hate crimes as evidence of blacks "having a problem with hate." You're trying to have it both ways.

Once again, remember that fewer than 6000 federal hate crimes are what make up the statistics being used here. With a total prison population in this country somewhere in the neighborhood of 2 million, and a total population north of 300 million, a sample of fewer than 6000 is pretty small.

 

[harmonica]

hold it
the black population commits hate crimes at twice the rate--and you say that means nothing??

No, I didn't say that. It means that blacks are convicted of hate crimes at twice the rate of whites. I don't think it means much other other than that. I certainly wouldn't extrapolate from those hate crime stats that blacks are more hateful people than whites.

If it were the other way around would you? Because most would. That's almost racist in itself.

I've never before heard anyone try to connect hate crime rates to the amount of general hate in a group. I don't care who is convicted at what rate; hate crimes are not the same thing as the amount of hatred within a group. As I said, I'm sure that plenty of people would have considered me to "have a problem with hate" when I was younger, yet I have never been convicted nor charged with a hate crime.

Hatred encompasses far, far more than hate crimes do. Also, hate crimes are prosecuted far too infrequently to be indicative of an entire race's predilection to commit such crimes, let alone of an entire race's degree of hate in general.

HATE crime is HATE !!
so how would you measure group hate?
yes too infrequently for blacks!! I see numerous times blacks murder/rape/attack/etc whites and it's not labeled a hate crime
where as if a white says the word ''vanilla'' --HATE CRIME

I would not try to measure group hate. It's too subjective and difficult to quantify. If I say I hate the Dallas Cowboys, does that qualify as hate? If I say I hate people who use the wrong version of there, their, or they're, does that qualify as hate?

To use the hate crimes example, if I kill someone because I hate them personally, it is not a hate crime. Does that mean I did not hate them?

You complain that whites are too often charged with hate crimes at the same time you point out that blacks are more frequently charged with hate crimes as evidence of blacks "having a problem with hate." You're trying to have it both ways.

Once again, remember that fewer than 6000 federal hate crimes are what make up the statistics being used here. With a total prison population in this country somewhere in the neighborhood of 2 million, and a total population north of 300 million, a sample of fewer than 6000 is pretty small.

I see your point and somewhat agree

I'm not trying to have it both ways--yes-blacks are shown to commit hate crimes at a higher rate--and I see numerous times they are not tried for hates crimes that are obviously hate crimes

ok let me put it this way:
the blacks/MSM/etc constantly claim whites are committing hate crimes/whites are racist--hardly ever talking about black hate crimes
in reality--it is the blacks who are committing them at a higher rate

 

[Montrovant]

No, I didn't say that. It means that blacks are convicted of hate crimes at twice the rate of whites. I don't think it means much other other than that. I certainly wouldn't extrapolate from those hate crime stats that blacks are more hateful people than whites.

If it were the other way around would you? Because most would. That's almost racist in itself.

I've never before heard anyone try to connect hate crime rates to the amount of general hate in a group. I don't care who is convicted at what rate; hate crimes are not the same thing as the amount of hatred within a group. As I said, I'm sure that plenty of people would have considered me to "have a problem with hate" when I was younger, yet I have never been convicted nor charged with a hate crime.

Hatred encompasses far, far more than hate crimes do. Also, hate crimes are prosecuted far too infrequently to be indicative of an entire race's predilection to commit such crimes, let alone of an entire race's degree of hate in general.

HATE crime is HATE !!
so how would you measure group hate?
yes too infrequently for blacks!! I see numerous times blacks murder/rape/attack/etc whites and it's not labeled a hate crime
where as if a white says the word ''vanilla'' --HATE CRIME

I would not try to measure group hate. It's too subjective and difficult to quantify. If I say I hate the Dallas Cowboys, does that qualify as hate? If I say I hate people who use the wrong version of there, their, or they're, does that qualify as hate?

To use the hate crimes example, if I kill someone because I hate them personally, it is not a hate crime. Does that mean I did not hate them?

You complain that whites are too often charged with hate crimes at the same time you point out that blacks are more frequently charged with hate crimes as evidence of blacks "having a problem with hate." You're trying to have it both ways.

Once again, remember that fewer than 6000 federal hate crimes are what make up the statistics being used here. With a total prison population in this country somewhere in the neighborhood of 2 million, and a total population north of 300 million, a sample of fewer than 6000 is pretty small.

I see your point and somewhat agree

I'm not trying to have it both ways--yes-blacks are shown to commit hate crimes at a higher rate--and I see numerous times they are not tried for hates crimes that are obviously hate crimes

ok let me put it this way:
the blacks/MSM/etc constantly claim whites are committing hate crimes/whites are racist--hardly ever talking about black hate crimes
in reality--it is the blacks who are committing them at a higher rate

I can agree with you on this point. I remember having seen more coverage of hate crimes against blacks than that committed by blacks.

 

[ptbw forever]

this is a factor to why people dislike the "white Pride" thing


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because they hate white people...

 

[ptbw forever]

I dont think being proud to be white is racist. I myself I am a minority and anti-racist but if a white guy told me about his heritage, his music, his culture etc. and said how he likes it etc. I would share some culture with him and have a beer with him and dont call him racist. But the alt-right (richard spencer coined the term alt-right and he is advocate) believe that the white race is superior, thats wrong pride, there is good and bad pride. Even christianity distinguishes between good and bad pride. The original sin was wrong pride, why Lucifer is the fallen angel, because of wrong pride.

This cartoon is so wrong and only propaganda

The cartoon was an accurate portrayal of America in the 90s.

Now it is much more worse for white people who dare to be proud of their heritage and actively try to defend it.

 

[ptbw forever]

There is a common misconception that the Alt-Right is entirely racist. It is not true. Why is it racists have pride in your race? Every other race other than whites can have pride but when whites do it it is racist. Get your priorities strait.

Ask yourself why there is Irish American, African American, etc, but not English American.

It's because you don't need pride events when you've been the aggressors and the holders of power.

Because the English built America and now they are a tiny minority with no political power.

 

[ptbw forever]

They are too hung up on insisting that all or most whites are racists because SOME had slaves long ago.

Most people who call themselves white believe they are superior to the best Black man. That's part of the social conditioning we all were indoctrinated with starting in elementary school. Most Democrats and republicans alike ...black and white... harbor that conditioning. That phenomenon became crystal clear during Obama's presidency and the election of racist Donald Trump as president left no doubt. We don't have to go back 100 years to find evidence of racism
...its happening NOW.

It must be nice feeling confident enough to speak for most white people.

My words are generated from personal experience, the observances of others who valid my own experiences, media and research. In my life time every person who I've met who refers to themselves as "white" attaches an intrinsic superiority to it.

This is just your perspective, or how you chose to see people. You THINK they must THINK they are superior because they are white. I happen to be white, not young either, so I have had a lot of experience with people from all over. I am not saying no whites think they are superior, there are idiots everywhere, but from MY experience, most don't feel that way.

why do you use "white" as an identifier when no white person really exists. The term is a social construct meant to divide. You don't even see that your own use of the word validates every thing I have said.

Because white is just another word for European.

 

[ptbw forever]

No, your Black Americans are more responsible for American imperialism (Western Imperialism) than Polish people were.

Hahahaha! As if you can account for every Polish person during the era of imperialism and unequivocally say none were involved. You are a riot... stupid but a riot. Then you double down and say Blacks who couldn't even vote n those days, had a part in advancing imperialism because they were drafted and forced to go fight or go to jail. Others volunteered to feed their families.

You can go take your stupidity, and go home.

A lot of Animals have coarse hair, and as for light skin, it's because we needed Vitamin D..

Light skin is a Neotenic trait BTW, such kind of traits are generally considered more Human.

Most animals have White skin and straight hair. Coarse hair is still straight. Lambs, Jews , Blacks some Italians and Greeks are blessed with curly wooly hair. But Your neotenic nonsense fails. We know that White skin in humans is a recessive trait and that black skin is a dominant trait. We also know that the whiter a personis he/she has more Neanderthal genes within their genome. The Blackest Africans have none. That makes them more human with all the traits of humanity God gave them when he created the original HUE-MAN.

Eastern Europeans are way more Neotenic than Western Europe, here lays the issue, Western Europeans are prehistoric like their Negroid buddies..

The only True HUE-Mans on earth are the darkest unmixed Blacks. Pink people are mutants thereof...Albino derived mutants conceived in unions with animals known as Neanderthals in the ice caves of Prehistoric Europe.

Actually, I've found people from the British Isles including Irish have a lot of woolly hair, it would appear woolly hair peaks in Europe in Portugal, you know the biggest European slavers of Blacks.

Meanwhile the more benevolent Norse, and North Slavs are almost all straight haired.... Yeah... I think Western Europeans, and Southern Europeans have more African blood than you think, and it explains their savage behaviors.

There's very little Polish contributions to Western civilization which aren't positive.

Even in the U.S.A, Polish engineering general Kosciuszko helped free, and educate Black slaves, and Polish Korczak Ziolkowski's Crazy Horse Memorial dedicated to Native Americans.

While there might've been some Poles who were Colonists, it sure seems like Black Americans are more responsible.

As I pointed out earlier 15 - 20% of Cowboy colonial settlers to the Western frontier were Black Americans, probably 1% or less were Poles.

Also Blacks probably owned slaves more than Poles, look at Anthony Johnson a Black man, and one of the earliest recorded slave owners in America, name a single one by Poles?

Yeah, I didn't think you could name a Polish slave master.

Young man I'm not going to engage you in some silly exchange about Poles and Blacks. That's just a diversion from the focus on the sins and exploits of the " WHITE" collective.
If Poles had no hand in any of that then I'm not talking about them. I could also reciprocate and. do the same kind of hair splitting you are doing by attaching different tribal affilliations to every black you name as acounter to my premise. But I'm not playing that game... I suspect. that Poles probably were as diverse in their pitical views as any other group and that some were altruistic while others were haters. I really don't care. I'm more concerned about the dominate ethnic conglomerate made up of all kinds of European nationalities that have been waging cold and hot wars against people of color for centuries...and they still are.

Amazing how you can't see the hypocrisy of complaining about the word "white" while you throw around bullshit terms like "people of color" like it is nothing.

 

[ptbw forever]

White Supremacy didn't work for Hitler and it's not going to work for Trump.

Anti-white racism will get its comeuppance, whether you like it or not.

 

[JQPublic1]

Most people who call themselves white believe they are superior to the best Black man. That's part of the social conditioning we all were indoctrinated with starting in elementary school. Most Democrats and republicans alike ...black and white... harbor that conditioning. That phenomenon became crystal clear during Obama's presidency and the election of racist Donald Trump as president left no doubt. We don't have to go back 100 years to find evidence of racism
...its happening NOW.

It must be nice feeling confident enough to speak for most white people.

My words are generated from personal experience, the observances of others who valid my own experiences, media and research. In my life time every person who I've met who refers to themselves as "white" attaches an intrinsic superiority to it.

This is just your perspective, or how you chose to see people. You THINK they must THINK they are superior because they are white. I happen to be white, not young either, so I have had a lot of experience with people from all over. I am not saying no whites think they are superior, there are idiots everywhere, but from MY experience, most don't feel that way.

why do you use "white" as an identifier when no white person really exists. The term is a social construct meant to divide. You don't even see that your own use of the word validates every thing I have said.

Because white is just another word for European.

No it's not. The term has been broadened to include any people thought to have created a great civilization with the exception of Asians.

 

[ptbw forever]

It must be nice feeling confident enough to speak for most white people.

My words are generated from personal experience, the observances of others who valid my own experiences, media and research. In my life time every person who I've met who refers to themselves as "white" attaches an intrinsic superiority to it.

This is just your perspective, or how you chose to see people. You THINK they must THINK they are superior because they are white. I happen to be white, not young either, so I have had a lot of experience with people from all over. I am not saying no whites think they are superior, there are idiots everywhere, but from MY experience, most don't feel that way.

why do you use "white" as an identifier when no white person really exists. The term is a social construct meant to divide. You don't even see that your own use of the word validates every thing I have said.

Because white is just another word for European.

No it's not. The term has been broadened to include any people thought to have created a great civilization with the exception of Asians.

No, that is just the pieces of shit in the government inflating white crime numbers and the white population in America.

The only white people are those who are of European descent.