Why God was invented

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    I read an interesting article last week dealing with evolution and the single most important factor that allows some species to evolve. The factor is understanding cause and effect. Some mammals have a rudimentary understanding of cause and effect but for the most part have no real understanding of how their actions effect results.

    Only humans have a clear grasp of cause and effect. Thus the logical mind of a human is forced to invent God to explain the unexplainable.
     
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    I would say that cause and effect remains a quite elusive concept to humans also
     
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    How do we know this? How do we know whale songs are often not some ancient hymn to a long remembered cetacean God?

    Jane Goodall claims chimpanzees have at least transcendent experience (a prerequisite to religion), that there is a waterfall where a chimp group she observed would regularly go to, they would go for no utilitarian purpose, but rather just arrive and then start displaying the body language, making the sounds that chimps usually use paying homage to dominant male, swaying back and forth in honour of the water fall.

    Religious experience may be indeed the first spark of conciseness itself, the first step to self awareness, to even knowing one is alive in the first place.

    A sea sponge may live in a Darwinian vacuum of meaning, as well as Richard Dawkins, but I would wager most evolved and higher life forms experience some form of the transcendence of religion.
     
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    Humans who crated Gods in their own image weren't using logic. They were using their fanciful imaginations because Mankind is also the only creature capable of self-importance and vanity.

    Intelligence and logic had nothing to do with it.
     
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    Cthulhu is the god of humanity now, and has been for thousands of years.
     
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    What is illogical about creating a God that is a superior version of oneself?
     
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    I suppose we can all dream. Have whales evolved to the point where they can elude capture by humans?

    Since we are so closely related to chimps this doesn't dispute my post. btw, how did she know they were honoring the waterfall?

    What evidence do you have that supports that?
     
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    Have raised cats all my life. They are not vain or self-important. That's a stereotype which is, like most stereotypes, inaccurate. They're misunderstood.
     
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    The reality is that they are highly observant, far more than humans, deep, and independent, mostly.
     

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