Why does almost everything Obama touches end up being destroyed?

[chip chipperson]

Why does everything circle back to Bush.. .

Because presidents have impact that continues beyond their time in office.

And the effects of Obummer will continue to affect several generations.

 

[NYcarbineer]

When it comes to liberals you are not dealing with sane people of good character. They lie, cheat, and back stab. They have no honor. They repeatedly blame others for their failures and routinely take the credit for other's success.

Who are they? Which liberals on USMB can you prove fit that description?

I'm talking about Obama and his ilk in government, Pelosi, Reid, every damn one of them who voted for the ACA.

IOW, you can't fit a single liberal on USMB to your description. Big surprise.

 

[SwimExpert]

Why does almost everything Obama touches end up being destroyed?

Your habit of swinging and missing might have something to do with it.

 

[rdean]

Like the economy, Iraq, the income gap, jobs to China, 43,000 factories closed, HC number one cause of bankruptcy. Wait a second. All that happened under Bush and the GOP. Nevermind.

FACTS are hard to dispute but of course LIPs like you can't handle the below FACTS!!!!

That's right. 2.4 million jobs lost in 8 years can be directed attributed to China.
Since China joined the World Trade Organization (WTO) in 2001, 2.4 million jobs have been lost or displaced in the United States as a result of the burgeoning trade deficit with that nation . 26% of all trade job losses are high tech/high tech manufacturing jobs!
While global trade did collapse this recession, note the China PNTR (trade treaty) wasn't even signed until 2000, kicked in about 2002 and this study does not even cover this recession data.
2.4 million jobs lost due to China from 2001-2008 The Economic Populist
NOTE : WHO was President in 2000? NOT BUSH!!! William Jefferson Clinton!!!
It has been 10 years since the U.S. Congress and President Bill Clinton paved the way for China to enter the World Trade Organization (WTO). Most all of the predictions from those pushing the deal at the time have proven to be wrong, according to an analysis done by Robert Lighthizer, former deputy United States Trade Representative during the Reagan administration and head of the international trade department of the Washington firm of Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & From LLP.

Bill Clinton, the country's most ardent booster of opening trade with China [thanks to Clinton's Chinese donations in exchange for missile information we have the FAMOUS Gorelick Memo that created the wall between FBI & CIA thus no knowledge of the 9/11 bombers shared with the FBI!!!], looks especially imprudent 10 years later. During a press conference on March 29, 2000, Clinton said that granting China permanent normal trade relations (PNTR), which allowed China to gain entry into the WTO, would be a great deal for America. "We do nothing," Clinton said. "They have to lower tariffs. They open up telecommunications for investment. They allow us to sell cars made in America in China at much lower tariffs. They allow us to put our own distributorships there. They allow us to put our own parts there. We don't have to transfer technology or do joint manufacturing in China any more. This a hundred-to-nothing deal for America when it comes to the economic consequences."
China s Entry Into The WTO 10 Years Later Is Not What President Clinton Promised

BUT under Bush, events that totally ignorant LIPs like you forget that NO other President in history had to face in their terms!
1) Are you aware that a recession started under Clinton and became official 3/01 ended 11/01?
Source: USATODAY.com - It s official 2001 recession only lasted eight months

A Major $5 trillion market loss
2) Are you aware that the dot.com bust occurred and cost $5 trillion in losses?
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 - and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source: The dot-com bubble How to lose 5 trillion Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!!
3)Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets.
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York.
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: The Top 10 Financial Events of the Decade
Year 2001...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others. According to the FBI, the ensuing investigation became "one of the largest and most complex in the history of law enforcement".[1]

4) $1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history.
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters Weather Underground

THESE events OCCURRED!
YET in SPITE of
a) 400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita ,
b) 2,800,000 jobs in alone due to 9/11,
c) 300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts...
In spite of nearly $8 trillion in lost businesses, market values, destroyed property.. IN SPITE of that:

AFTER the tax cuts Federal Tax REVENUES Increased an average of 9.78% per year!!!
Government Revenue Details Federal State Local for 2008 - Charts

So the jobs were lost when Clinton was president? No, they were lost when Bush was president and Republicans controlled both houses. That's the facts. So what did they do to stop it? Nothing? In fact, they helped it move along and put in place an infrastructure to make sure it keeps happening. And they block Obama on anything that would slow down the job loss. You know it's true. Republicans fuck the country. They don't help it. You can't name a single GOP policy for the last 50 years that has helped the majority of Americans. So quit trying to blame GOP stuff on Democrats.

 

[g5000]

During the 2001 recession, the only business sector that was performing well was the housing sector. And so the government worked with Wall Street to make the housing sector pull the country out of the recession, starting with the Fed lowering the target federal funds rate from 6.5 percent to 1.75 percent in 2001.

This was the genesis of the bubble which followed.

 

[healthmyths]

As I said, we're looking at the effects of three decades of heavy borrowing and spending, especially consumer spending, involving both political parties.

NO you are wrong!
Here are the facts of expenditures versus revenue while Bush was President..
And keep in mind the worst 4 events occurred in the history of any president under Bush..
1) Recession/dot.com bust..2) 9/11... 3) worst hurricane SEASONS... 4) housing collapse all due to the CRA!
2000 $236.2 billion surplus
2001 $128.2 billion surplus
2002 $157.8 billion deficit.. also 9/11 occurred and tax revenues lowered for years later
2003 $377.6 billion deficit.. BRAND new cabinet Homeland Security, plus loans made to businesses.. again tax revenues down..affect of 9/11
2004 $412.7 billion deficit.. Revenues up by 5.5% spending increased and economy getting back.
2005 $318.3 billion deficit.. revenues up by 14.5% deficit decreasing at rate of 22%
2006 $248.2 billion deficit.. revenues up by 11.7% deficit decrease 22%
2007 $160.7 billion deficit.. revenues up by 6.7% deficit decrease 35%
2008 $458.6 billion deficit.. revenues down and deficit INCREASED TARP loan mostly...


Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary

 

[g5000]

And keep in mind the worst 4 events occurred in the history of any president under Bush..

Unmitigated bullshit. I can name several Presidents who had tougher circumstances. FDR, Lincoln, Madison, Wilson, Hoover, Nixon, Truman, Grant, Carter...

4) housing collapse all due to the CRA!

More unmitigated bullshit. The global economic crisis had fuck-all to do with the CRA.

You are one gullible rube.

 

[healthmyths]

Like the economy, Iraq, the income gap, jobs to China, 43,000 factories closed, HC number one cause of bankruptcy. Wait a second. All that happened under Bush and the GOP. Nevermind.

FACTS are hard to dispute but of course LIPs like you can't handle the below FACTS!!!!

That's right. 2.4 million jobs lost in 8 years can be directed attributed to China.
Since China joined the World Trade Organization (WTO) in 2001, 2.4 million jobs have been lost or displaced in the United States as a result of the burgeoning trade deficit with that nation . 26% of all trade job losses are high tech/high tech manufacturing jobs!
While global trade did collapse this recession, note the China PNTR (trade treaty) wasn't even signed until 2000, kicked in about 2002 and this study does not even cover this recession data.
2.4 million jobs lost due to China from 2001-2008 The Economic Populist
NOTE : WHO was President in 2000? NOT BUSH!!! William Jefferson Clinton!!!
It has been 10 years since the U.S. Congress and President Bill Clinton paved the way for China to enter the World Trade Organization (WTO). Most all of the predictions from those pushing the deal at the time have proven to be wrong, according to an analysis done by Robert Lighthizer, former deputy United States Trade Representative during the Reagan administration and head of the international trade department of the Washington firm of Skadden, Arps, Slate, Meagher & From LLP.

Bill Clinton, the country's most ardent booster of opening trade with China [thanks to Clinton's Chinese donations in exchange for missile information we have the FAMOUS Gorelick Memo that created the wall between FBI & CIA thus no knowledge of the 9/11 bombers shared with the FBI!!!], looks especially imprudent 10 years later. During a press conference on March 29, 2000, Clinton said that granting China permanent normal trade relations (PNTR), which allowed China to gain entry into the WTO, would be a great deal for America. "We do nothing," Clinton said. "They have to lower tariffs. They open up telecommunications for investment. They allow us to sell cars made in America in China at much lower tariffs. They allow us to put our own distributorships there. They allow us to put our own parts there. We don't have to transfer technology or do joint manufacturing in China any more. This a hundred-to-nothing deal for America when it comes to the economic consequences."
China s Entry Into The WTO 10 Years Later Is Not What President Clinton Promised

BUT under Bush, events that totally ignorant LIPs like you forget that NO other President in history had to face in their terms!
1) Are you aware that a recession started under Clinton and became official 3/01 ended 11/01?
Source: USATODAY.com - It s official 2001 recession only lasted eight months

A Major $5 trillion market loss
2) Are you aware that the dot.com bust occurred and cost $5 trillion in losses?
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $5 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies. More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 - and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source: The dot-com bubble How to lose 5 trillion Anderson Cooper 360 - CNN.com Blogs

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!!
3)Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets.
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York.
Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: The Top 10 Financial Events of the Decade
Year 2001...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others. According to the FBI, the ensuing investigation became "one of the largest and most complex in the history of law enforcement".[1]

4) $1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history.
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.

Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters Weather Underground

THESE events OCCURRED!
YET in SPITE of
a) 400,000 jobs due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita ,
b) 2,800,000 jobs in alone due to 9/11,
c) 300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts...
In spite of nearly $8 trillion in lost businesses, market values, destroyed property.. IN SPITE of that:

AFTER the tax cuts Federal Tax REVENUES Increased an average of 9.78% per year!!!
Government Revenue Details Federal State Local for 2008 - Charts

So the jobs were lost when Clinton was president? No, they were lost when Bush was president and Republicans controlled both houses. That's the facts. So what did they do to stop it? Nothing? In fact, they helped it move along and put in place an infrastructure to make sure it keeps happening. And they block Obama on anything that would slow down the job loss. You know it's true. Republicans fuck the country. They don't help it. You can't name a single GOP policy for the last 50 years that has helped the majority of Americans. So quit trying to blame GOP stuff on Democrats.

NO they were lost due to :
a) Clinton signed the favored China WTO and Bush had to contend with jobs going BECAUSE of :
b) dot.com bust caused by Clinton...
c) Recession started under Clinton!
d) Clinton's Gorelick memo that prevented FBI from learning from CIA about the 9/11 bombers!

Now as far as "blocking Obama"??? HELL YES they block that job killer!!!
A) Obama said "I prefer single payer health system.." Means destroy 1,400 companies laying off 400,000 people and reducing tax revenue by $100 billion a year. Hell yes they tried to block Obamacare!!
B) Obama said "I prefer higher gas prices"... GEEZ... what a way to kill jobs!
C) Obama said If a utility wants to build coal burning it bankrupt them! Why in the hell would ANY president want bankrupt
a company that provides jobs, tax revenue?
D) Obama has SIGNED the fewest Federal oil leases in over 25 years... all the lower gas prices due to private NOT Federal!

These are just a few of the ways GOP trying to block Obama's "jobs"... remember the "shovel ready jobs"???
Did GOP block the trillion-odd dollars of "stimulus money" which Obama and the Democrats breathlessly said we needed for "shovel ready" jobs to re-build roads and infrastructure?
So where did all that sweet stimulus money go?
Of the money spent in swing state Wisconsin, 80 percent went to public sector unions-those with already locked-in jobs.
In fact, right-to-work states got $266 less per person in stimulus money than heavily unionized states.
Where Democrats had a vast majority of representatives, their states got $460 per person more.

When Obama signed the stimulus bill in 2009, he promised it would provide "help for those hardest hit by our economic crisis." Clearly, it did not. The states hurt the most, the ones with more foreclosures, unemployment, and bankruptcy, got less money than richer states closer to power. Washington, D.C. got the most stimulus money: $7,602 per capita.
Stimulus Money for Shovel Ready Projects Where Did It Go

GEEZ with any more "stimulus" the US economy will go broke thanks to Obama's desire to see that!

 

[g5000]

And keep in mind the worst 4 events occurred in the history of any president under Bush.

Sorry. This just keeps cracking me up.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

This thread fails as a loaded question fallacy.

 

[g5000]

War of 1812, White House burned to the ground, the Long Depression, Teapot Dome, the Great Depression, Pearl Harbor, 1906 earthquake, Great Mississippi Flood of 1927, Three Mile Island, USSR invasion of Afghanistan, Iranian hostage crisis, S&L crisis, political assassinations, civil rights riots, Arab oil embargo, our cities burning, double digit inflation, "stagflation", Korean War, Viet Nam war, umpteen recessions and financial panics.

Civil War...

World War I...

World War II...


But Bush...now THAT guy had some troubles! BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA!

 

[kaz]

Wow, he took over and the bottom of a recession and the economy came we out of it. He's an economic wizard.

 

[candycorn]

Osama....destroyed.

 

[Pogo]

And keep in mind the worst 4 events occurred in the history of any president under Bush..

There was no "president under Bush".

Oh wait -- you mean The Dick?
Yeah, that was prolly the worst 'president-under-president' ever. No question.

 

[Pogo]

Why does almost everything Obama touches end up being destroyed?

"Everything he touches" -- with which hand?
I hear it matters.

Obama is left handed.
Business Etiquette in the U.A.E.
Always use the right hand. Among Muslims, the left hand is reserved for bodily hygiene and considered unclean.
The right hand should be used for eating, shaking hands, or handing over an item. -
Business Etiquette in the U.A.E. U.S.-U.A.E. Business Council

The unfavorable associations and connotations of the use of the left hand among cultures are varied. In some areas, in order to preserve cleanliness where sanitation was an issue, the right hand, as the dominant hand of most individuals, was used for eating, handling food, and social interactions.
The left hand would then be used for personal hygiene, specifically after urination and defecation.
Currently, amongst Muslims and in some societies including Nepal and India it is still customary to use the left hand for cleaning oneself with water after defecating.
The right hand is commonly known in contradistinction from the left, as the hand used for eating.[20]
Bias against left-handed people - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

So you tell me whether in the religious fanatical countries that YOU obviously have immense admiration for do you think they would be happy
having the left-handed Obama handing them a drink with his left hand?
I am 100% confident that he is aware of that very dominant theocratic/ hygienic aspect of people you would prefer having world domination since you make fun of people like Netanyahu and call people who don't trust any country who's leader calls for the destruction of Israel... BUT Obama has no problem with them!!!

Never fails.





I haven't "expressed admiration" for any such culture. What I've expressed is stunned incredulity that you would actually start a thread on which hand the POTUS wipes his ass with.

And you've still never answered this:

Clinton was lefthanded (still is)...
Bush the First was lefthanded (still is)...
Reagan was lefthanded....

You've got 20 years of vast lefthanded conspiracy Presidentin' there (and we didn't count Ford) -- how did these southpaw suits set the table for the Middle East we have now, according to your vast lefthand conspiracy theory you've again unabashedly floated into the toilet bowl of discourse?

The whole world's waiting. Batter up.

 

[g5000]

That Middle East left hand bullshit is hilarious. I've been there. There are a lot of cultural warnings and cautions we were given as part of our brief when we were headed there that turned out to be mostly untrue. The Middle East is way more laid back than most Americans think.

 

[chikenwing]

Better check those number,for one consumer confidence dropped a fair amount last month,I really like that one day wall street is evil,the next its used to defend Obama so what is it?,the unemployment numbers are not accurate,and anyone with a rational brain know this.
Please show in more detail,just how he has done these miraculous things?

 

[BluesLegend]

When it comes to liberals you are not dealing with sane people of good character. They lie, cheat, and back stab. They have no honor. They repeatedly blame others for their failures and routinely take the credit for other's success.

Who are they? Which liberals on USMB can you prove fit that description?

I'm talking about Obama and his ilk in government, Pelosi, Reid, every damn one of them who voted for the ACA.

IOW, you can't fit a single liberal on USMB to your description. Big surprise.

You are talking nonsense, no doubt due to your complete lack of reading comprehension skills. It was never my intention to describe a USMB, I'll describe you though TROLL!