Why do people still think the Bible was created at the Council of Nicaea?

[Delta4Embassy]

It had nothing to do with "editing the Bible" or "removing the inconvenient books" or whatever other Dan Brown inspired shit. It was about Arianism - the question of whether Jesus was fully divine as well as fully human. The real interesting fact about the council is that it's that one time Santa Claus punched a heretic.

Council of Nicaea | Christianity [325]
Council of Nicaea concludes - Aug 25, 325 - HISTORY.com
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: First Council of Nicaea

Because they heard "Council of Nicea" on tv but never read up on it so don't understand those councils were Catholic Church councils. They don't realize the history behind the various texts which existed or how the Canon came to be from previous versions.

The Bible was never written as such. Rather it came to be after all the seperate gospels and texts often used as local singular texts were combined into one unified version. But when they were written you might only have the Gospel of matthew being used to know about all of that. Not the rest of what became the NT. That happened much later.

 

[Meriweather]

What time are you referring to?

Back before the Enlightenment period and the separation of Church and State.

 

[sealybobo]

These people always ask you to do their work when its all right there.

Same way they don't read the bible they just let their preachers tell them what's in it.

We should make allowances for memory. People remember that the Catholic Church was against people translating the Bible, but forget what the Church was against were weak translations. They remember that Tyndale was put to death and they remember he offered a translation made from Greek not Latin manuscripts and reach the conclusion the Catholic Church must have put him to death for these translations.

What is forgotten is that Tyndale was an English subject who criticized his ruler and the head of the Church of England (King Henry VIII) and the King did not take it kindly. Still, he was executed for heresy, not treason.

The people probably wouldn't have liked him being murdered for treason but say he was talking blasphemy who would publicly defend him.

They use religion to manipulate us. Did you hear abortion and divorce are OK now with the Pope? Times they are a changing. Adapt and evolve with society or go extinct. The church wants to survive.

Not to defend the guy in the clown costume but he OKed the forgiveness of the sins, he didn't say the sins were no longer sins.

Abortion use to a mortal sin. One that was a sure ticket to hell. Catholics say their church doesn't change but that's because like with evolution you don't notice because the change is so gradual.

The Catholic church must have lost a lot of members and they have to act fast to win back clients theyve lost in the last few decades.

Next you won't even have to take the Jesus stories literally anymore and you'll still be able to call yourself a Christian

You can't think Jesus was just a really good guy and call yourself Christian, can you? I know many who do but I don't think they are really Christians. You either believe or not.

 

[sealybobo]

It had nothing to do with "editing the Bible" or "removing the inconvenient books" or whatever other Dan Brown inspired shit. It was about Arianism - the question of whether Jesus was fully divine as well as fully human. The real interesting fact about the council is that it's that one time Santa Claus punched a heretic.

Council of Nicaea | Christianity [325]
Council of Nicaea concludes - Aug 25, 325 - HISTORY.com
CATHOLIC ENCYCLOPEDIA: First Council of Nicaea

Because they heard "Council of Nicea" on tv but never read up on it so don't understand those councils were Catholic Church councils. They don't realize the history behind the various texts which existed or how the Canon came to be from previous versions.

The Bible was never written as such. Rather it came to be after all the seperate gospels and texts often used as local singular texts were combined into one unified version. But when they were written you might only have the Gospel of matthew being used to know about all of that. Not the rest of what became the NT. That happened much later.

I'm so glad you're back perv.

 

[sealybobo]

The people probably wouldn't have liked him being murdered for treason but say he was talking blasphemy who would publicly defend him.

They use religion to manipulate us. Did you hear abortion and divorce are OK now with the Pope? Times they are a changing. Adapt and evolve with society or go extinct. The church wants to survive.

Abortion is not okay. It is still an excommunication offense. Excommunication requires a bishop to reinstate, or a bishop authorizing a priest to reinstate. The pope (Bishop of Rome) said in cases of abortion any priest is now able to forgive/reinstate (which many bishops in the US have told their priests for years, decades). Divorce has never been a problem for Catholics. Remarriage to a different person after the divorce is the problem--and is still the problem. Nothing has changed in that regard.

Here is the thing with Pope Francis. Nothing he says is news to practicing Catholics. To us, he is reminding those who don't know what has always been Catholic practice. The fact that the news media thinks something new and different is being set forth is pretty funny. What has changed is that back in the day, the news media would do a little investigation, discover nothing has changed, and would pass on what the Pope said as old news. The Catholic Church is benefiting from the news media no longer doing its job.

Sure ponochio.

 

[Pedro de San Patricio]

The people probably wouldn't have liked him being murdered for treason but say he was talking blasphemy who would publicly defend him.

They use religion to manipulate us. Did you hear abortion and divorce are OK now with the Pope? Times they are a changing. Adapt and evolve with society or go extinct. The church wants to survive.

Abortion is not okay. It is still an excommunication offense. Excommunication requires a bishop to reinstate, or a bishop authorizing a priest to reinstate. The pope (Bishop of Rome) said in cases of abortion any priest is now able to forgive/reinstate (which many bishops in the US have told their priests for years, decades). Divorce has never been a problem for Catholics. Remarriage to a different person after the divorce is the problem--and is still the problem. Nothing has changed in that regard.

Here is the thing with Pope Francis. Nothing he says is news to practicing Catholics. To us, he is reminding those who don't know what has always been Catholic practice. The fact that the news media thinks something new and different is being set forth is pretty funny. What has changed is that back in the day, the news media would do a little investigation, discover nothing has changed, and would pass on what the Pope said as old news. The Catholic Church is benefiting from the news media no longer doing its job.

Sure ponochio.

All of that is true though. Abortion is still considered a sin in Catholicism. There's a reason it requires the absolution liberals were so thrilled to hear he authorized. Remarriage to another person is considered adultery, but divorce is totally acceptable. The media really has been actively misrepresenting his words to push its own agendas. What did he lie about exactly?