CDZ Why do flag kneelers protesting police shootings want the cops to have all the guns

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    I don't get it, if you believe that the cops who are armed are the problem, wouldn't you want your own arms to defend yourself.

    Or are you really saying that the cops are not the problem?
     
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    If you're going to start using logic, we're gonna be here all night.
     
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    Logic here is rare
     
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    what are you saying????!!!
    the cops usually are called to go after bad guys/jackasses
    links/examples/details please
    your OP does not explain much
     
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    The masses feared a logical question and sat this one out. Thank you for a poignant question. If things aren't on the MSM's radar, the masses ignore the issue; ironically they then bitch because the media harps on the same thing, day in and day out being more of a lobbyist group than newscasters.
     
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    99% of cops are good guys doing a tough job under difficult circumstances.

    1% of cops are bullies with badges and guns.

    The idea that you need a gun to defend yourself from the cops is silly. You shoot a cop,all his buddies will move heaven and earth to get you.

    So we need to kind of do both. Disarm the people who plain old shouldn't have guns, by making sure that the nuts can't get them as easily as they can.

    And reform the police departments to get the bad apples off the force.
     
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    I see two things wrong with your post:

    1) You got your figures upside down. Otherwise more cops would stand up and refuse to enforce unconstitutional laws

    2) "To disarm the people is the most effectual way to enslave them" said the co-author of the Second Amendment, George Mason.

    People who should not own guns can be detected early in life, and with most of the mass shooters, our society CREATED them. If we weed out the people who pose a threat to society by holding them in protective custody (like mental facilities) and change our society so as to quit creating mass shooters and we begin helping dysfunctional families, we could reduce mass shootings by 90 percent with no tax increases, no new bureaucracies, and no gun control.
     
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    Don't believe that (most) people want the police too have all the guns, never forgetting the nuts on both sides of the issue most people want the people who have guns (police & citizens to be well trained and responsible.
     
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    It should be required in high school to take a course in firearms identification, safety, and marksmanship.
     
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    Guy, besides your slander on fine law enforcement officers, the fact is, we can't lock up all the crazies. That actually WOULD be unconstitutional. Also impractical, as 18% of the population struggles with some kind of mental illness.

    What makes mass shooters possible is that we've made guns a lot more accessible.
     

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