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Lott's own party wanted him out after that was made public.
I for one agreed with the decision to get rid of lott for the same reasons i am upset with reid, his comments were offensive and not acceptable in any congressperson.
Lott's own party did call for his removal, not all of them, but enough of them.
There was NO DEMOCRATIC LEADERSHIP that called for the resignation of Trent Lott....because Lott's position is gotten by Republican vote only, the Dems do not choose the leader of the Republican Senate.
Why is it then that the Republicans in office are requesting that Reid be removed as leader of the Democratic Senate?
I assume it is becuase not one single democrat has spoken out negatively on this.
And I can say one thing for sure. Dialect will affect the electibility of anyone of any color if they do not speak articulately.
Likewise, I do not believe that anyone sees sa lighter skinned black man as less of a black man than one with darker skin. If a voter will vote for a black man, I do not think he is concerned with "how black he really is".
He deserved criticism from his party, but not to be outed. Obama did not warrant an apology, the American Electorate did. Obama should have not accepted the apology as he was not at all maligned.. He should have simply told Reid to apologize to thoise that you have so little faith in; The American Electorate.
But he nor Obama nor the party did anything but say it is "faux outrage". They want to say that about the republicans, go for it. But to say it about someone like me? A man who voted for Obama and has no party affiliation? I feel very slighted and applaud the republican party for speaking out. Sure would have been nice if Obama considered our feelings like he considered the feelings of that Harvard professor.
Please, you are expecting the corrupt hoodlums in Ali Baba Obama and His Forty Thieves/Czars to do the right thing?
Are you nuts?
hey jackanapes, he was referring to ALL voting americans, which I am one of.
Pffft....oh its DrHack, nevermind.
bullshit.... he was referring to a minority significant enough to tilt the results of an election.
Really well then why did he apologize to ALL AMERICANS today? http://www.usmessageboard.com/current-events/101071-apology-accepted-thank-you-senator-reid.html
I also felt his comments were racist/prejudiced in nature. The nature of that racism being his assumption that the american voters wouldn't vote for a black man. It may just be a prejudiced or bigoted view and not racist but still its not an opinion I share or agree with, in fact it is an opinion that disgusts me to such an extent that I keep participating in these threads when I dont want to anymore.
I, as a white man, found his remarks racist and insulting toward me.
He is saying i'm too racially minded to vote for a darker than obama black man with a different vocabulary.....thanks Reid you asshole.
WOW so pilgrim ASSUMES that reid was referring specifically to him. LOL way to self persecute. LOL
Are you denying that there are still some in this country who use race as factor when decided which candidate to vote for??
hey jackanapes, he was referring to ALL voting americans, which I am one of.
Pffft....oh its DrHack, nevermind.
I also felt his comments were racist/prejudiced in nature. The nature of that racism being his assumption that the american voters wouldn't vote for a black man. It may just be a prejudiced or bigoted view and not racist but still its not an opinion I share or agree with, in fact it is an opinion that disgusts me to such an extent that I keep participating in these threads when I dont want to anymore.
more broad brush bullshit. His asssumption was that a percentage of american voters would not vote for a black man. Do you really deny the accuracy of that assumption?
If it doesn't apply to you, you have nothing to be offended about.
If I were to point out the fact that America, as a nation, is suffering from chronic obesity, do you think that is the same thing as calling YOU fat?
WOW so pilgrim ASSUMES that reid was referring specifically to him. LOL way to self persecute. LOL
Are you denying that there are still some in this country who use race as factor when decided which candidate to vote for??
hey jackanapes, he was referring to ALL voting americans, which I am one of.
Pffft....oh its DrHack, nevermind.
He wasn't referring specifically to you and the fact that you lump yourself in there tells me that maybe you believe that the comment, as you misinterpret it, hit a little too close to home. However, you can pretend that he did if it makes you "feel" better. LOL
Your self created fictional feelings of persecution which exist for partisan purposes aside, how did reid's comment target you?? There have been many misinterpretations of reid's comment to try and spin them to mean something that they didn't and yours are no better.
BTW if you are dizzy from spinning as you said in your rep attack against me then you can solve that by putting an end to your spin. LOL
hey jackanapes, he was referring to ALL voting americans, which I am one of.
Pffft....oh its DrHack, nevermind.
He wasn't referring specifically to you and the fact that you lump yourself in there tells me that maybe you believe that the comment, as you misinterpret it, hit a little too close to home. However, you can pretend that he did if it makes you "feel" better. LOL
Your self created fictional feelings of persecution which exist for partisan purposes aside, how did reid's comment target you?? There have been many misinterpretations of reid's comment to try and spin them to mean something that they didn't and yours are no better.
BTW if you are dizzy from spinning as you said in your rep attack against me then you can solve that by putting an end to your spin. LOL
You did read Senator Reid's apology right? It doesn't sound like you read it from your response at all.
If I was doing it for partisan purposes then why have I fully accepted his apology to me and moved on? Oh thats right because I'm not a person who likes to project their own feelings onto others in a dishonest way, such as you have done with this post and a few others on this subject toward me.
Enjoy your ingorance and have a little enlightening read http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/101071-apology-accepted-thank-you-senator-reid.html
I also felt his comments were racist/prejudiced in nature. The nature of that racism being his assumption that the american voters wouldn't vote for a black man. It may just be a prejudiced or bigoted view and not racist but still its not an opinion I share or agree with, in fact it is an opinion that disgusts me to such an extent that I keep participating in these threads when I dont want to anymore.
more broad brush bullshit. His asssumption was that a percentage of american voters would not vote for a black man. Do you really deny the accuracy of that assumption?
If it doesn't apply to you, you have nothing to be offended about.
If I were to point out the fact that America, as a nation, is suffering from chronic obesity, do you think that is the same thing as calling YOU fat?
He wasn't referring specifically to you and the fact that you lump yourself in there tells me that maybe you believe that the comment, as you misinterpret it, hit a little too close to home. However, you can pretend that he did if it makes you "feel" better. LOL
Your self created fictional feelings of persecution which exist for partisan purposes aside, how did reid's comment target you?? There have been many misinterpretations of reid's comment to try and spin them to mean something that they didn't and yours are no better.
BTW if you are dizzy from spinning as you said in your rep attack against me then you can solve that by putting an end to your spin. LOL
You did read Senator Reid's apology right? It doesn't sound like you read it from your response at all.
If I was doing it for partisan purposes then why have I fully accepted his apology to me and moved on? Oh thats right because I'm not a person who likes to project their own feelings onto others in a dishonest way, such as you have done with this post and a few others on this subject toward me.
Enjoy your ingorance and have a little enlightening read http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/101071-apology-accepted-thank-you-senator-reid.html
Your spin on this has already been shot down by another poster so there is no need for me to do or say anything. It's funny how you avoided responding the their comments and came right at me as if their comments never existed. LOL
Furthermore, your alleged full acceptance of his apology, which was hardly directed at you is countered by your own statements as you continued to attack him based on your own misinterpretation. For that matter the only reason for you to post an acceptance is to try and make a partisan political gain out of it as you claim "I wont forget what you said but I will forgive you for saying it in the way that you did.
Everything that I have seen you do on this board has had a partisan slant to it and this is no different. LOL
I also felt his comments were racist/prejudiced in nature. The nature of that racism being his assumption that the american voters wouldn't vote for a black man. It may just be a prejudiced or bigoted view and not racist but still its not an opinion I share or agree with, in fact it is an opinion that disgusts me to such an extent that I keep participating in these threads when I dont want to anymore.
more broad brush bullshit. His asssumption was that a percentage of american voters would not vote for a black man. Do you really deny the accuracy of that assumption?
If it doesn't apply to you, you have nothing to be offended about.
If I were to point out the fact that America, as a nation, is suffering from chronic obesity, do you think that is the same thing as calling YOU fat?
Apples and Oranges, but nice try.
Now if you said that like REID did you would say "All americans eat too much and are morbidly obese"
If Reid said what he said in the way you portray above with your failed anology he would have said "Some americans wouldn't have voted for a darker skinned black man with a negro dialect"
That statement I would have agreed with.
See the difference?
more broad brush bullshit. His asssumption was that a percentage of american voters would not vote for a black man. Do you really deny the accuracy of that assumption?
If it doesn't apply to you, you have nothing to be offended about.
If I were to point out the fact that America, as a nation, is suffering from chronic obesity, do you think that is the same thing as calling YOU fat?
Apples and Oranges, but nice try.
Now if you said that like REID did you would say "All americans eat too much and are morbidly obese"
If Reid said what he said in the way you portray above with your failed anology he would have said "Some americans wouldn't have voted for a darker skinned black man with a negro dialect"
That statement I would have agreed with.
See the difference?
Reid never said anything about ALL Americans. Get over it.
You still seem to feel that America is one giant monolithic voting bloc and we elect our president by unanimous affirmation. That is not so. Every election in the past 16 years has been relatively close such that a swing of five or six percentage points anywhere could have changed the outcome. And you also refuse to ackowledge that Reid's observation is entirely accurate. Lighter skinned black politicians have greater success in white districts....because, as Reid observed and I defy you to deny... there IS a segment of the population that would NOT vote for a BLACK man who spoke ghetto jive, regardless of the wisdom of his words.... and that segment would be enough to turn the tide against such a presidential candidate in an otherwise close election.
You did read Senator Reid's apology right? It doesn't sound like you read it from your response at all.
If I was doing it for partisan purposes then why have I fully accepted his apology to me and moved on? Oh thats right because I'm not a person who likes to project their own feelings onto others in a dishonest way, such as you have done with this post and a few others on this subject toward me.
Enjoy your ingorance and have a little enlightening read http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/101071-apology-accepted-thank-you-senator-reid.html
Your spin on this has already been shot down by another poster so there is no need for me to do or say anything. It's funny how you avoided responding the their comments and came right at me as if their comments never existed. LOL
Furthermore, your alleged full acceptance of his apology, which was hardly directed at you is countered by your own statements as you continued to attack him based on your own misinterpretation. For that matter the only reason for you to post an acceptance is to try and make a partisan political gain out of it as you claim "I wont forget what you said but I will forgive you for saying it in the way that you did.
Everything that I have seen you do on this board has had a partisan slant to it and this is no different. LOL
My "spin" wow dishonesty right at the start huh?
So much for giving you a 147th chance to be honest in a debate. you got 3 more left
Apples and Oranges, but nice try.
Now if you said that like REID did you would say "All americans eat too much and are morbidly obese"
If Reid said what he said in the way you portray above with your failed anology he would have said "Some americans wouldn't have voted for a darker skinned black man with a negro dialect"
That statement I would have agreed with.
See the difference?
Reid never said anything about ALL Americans. Get over it.
You still seem to feel that America is one giant monolithic voting bloc and we elect our president by unanimous affirmation. That is not so. Every election in the past 16 years has been relatively close such that a swing of five or six percentage points anywhere could have changed the outcome. And you also refuse to ackowledge that Reid's observation is entirely accurate. Lighter skinned black politicians have greater success in white districts....because, as Reid observed and I defy you to deny... there IS a segment of the population that would NOT vote for a BLACK man who spoke ghetto jive, regardless of the wisdom of his words.... and that segment would be enough to turn the tide against such a presidential candidate in an otherwise close election.
Reids Comments were very broad brushed.
For you to ignore this fact turns your argument into a strawman
The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of "reasoning" has the following pattern:
Person A has position X.
Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).
Person B attacks position Y.
Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.
This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself. One might as well expect an attack on a poor drawing of a person to hurt the person.
