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You made the claim, it's up to you to prove it. See how that works?And yet you cannot bring yourself to lie about not being a racist or tell the truth that you are.Moral laws are subjective, ex: some people are ok with abortion, some aren't. There is no universal innate rule.In fact, the fact you won’t admit you are a racist or lie about it is proof of the moral law inside you that you did not put there and cannot get rid of.Nothing I say or do can you show is proof of a god. Neither is grasping at straws.Discussing what I believe. Not discussing what I don’t believe. The fact that you do is proof you do believe God exists.Says the guy who's been here 2 year less than me and has 32,000 (!!!) more posts than I do.
I win again, dummy.
Yes. It means everything.I don't understand this straw grasp. Does it even mean anything?So yes, there is indeed something you have already done that proves an absolute goodness does exist.
And yet the sky will remain blue whether or not I prove it to you.You made the claim, it's up to you to prove it. See how that works?And yet you cannot bring yourself to lie about not being a racist or tell the truth that you are.Moral laws are subjective, ex: some people are ok with abortion, some aren't. There is no universal innate rule.In fact, the fact you won’t admit you are a racist or lie about it is proof of the moral law inside you that you did not put there and cannot get rid of.Nothing I say or do can you show is proof of a god. Neither is grasping at straws.Discussing what I believe. Not discussing what I don’t believe. The fact that you do is proof you do believe God exists.
I win again, dummy.
Who decides if I'm failing? You?Yes. It means everything.I don't understand this straw grasp. Does it even mean anything?So yes, there is indeed something you have already done that proves an absolute goodness does exist.
Life is a test and you are failing it.
Your concession is duly noted. Now move along.And yet the sky will remain blue whether or not I prove it to you.You made the claim, it's up to you to prove it. See how that works?And yet you cannot bring yourself to lie about not being a racist or tell the truth that you are.Moral laws are subjective, ex: some people are ok with abortion, some aren't. There is no universal innate rule.In fact, the fact you won’t admit you are a racist or lie about it is proof of the moral law inside you that you did not put there and cannot get rid of.Nothing I say or do can you show is proof of a god. Neither is grasping at straws.
I win again, dummy.
How does it seem those who seek to paint others with a broad definition of racism behave in a manner consistent with a broad definition of racism ?I'm not using a strict definition. I am using a broad definition.
Not in this case. I have quite of bit of history with this poster. I know what I am talking about. She condemns respect for a great many different groups of people.
Not sure exactly. That isn't this." Grow Wing Tire Red "
* Stick King Two Relevant Points *
How does it seem those who seek to paint others with a broad definition of racism behave in a manner consistent with a broad definition of racism ?I'm not using a strict definition. I am using a broad definition.
Not in this case. I have quite of bit of history with this poster. I know what I am talking about. She condemns respect for a great many different groups of people.
How is there a correlation between derailing with a broad definition of racism a valid challenge as to whether the creed of fictional ishmaleism does or does not violate non aggression principles ?
Outcomes. But there are signs for all to see.Who decides if I'm failing? You?Yes. It means everything.I don't understand this straw grasp. Does it even mean anything?So yes, there is indeed something you have already done that proves an absolute goodness does exist.
Life is a test and you are failing it.
I wouldn't expect you to see it any other way, Taz.Your concession is duly noted. Now move along.And yet the sky will remain blue whether or not I prove it to you.You made the claim, it's up to you to prove it. See how that works?And yet you cannot bring yourself to lie about not being a racist or tell the truth that you are.Moral laws are subjective, ex: some people are ok with abortion, some aren't. There is no universal innate rule.In fact, the fact you won’t admit you are a racist or lie about it is proof of the moral law inside you that you did not put there and cannot get rid of.
I win again, dummy.
Oh well , by all means , pretend that the rhetoric of petty hearsay is relevant , pretend that it does not represent a modus operandi of those whose purpose is obfuscation , who are foolishly exploited for their objectivity and ignorance , though well paid by slush funds from peoples and governments with tenets of creed that are hostile to individual liberty .Not sure exactly. That isn't this.
I'm telling you that Taz is a racist. It isn't rhetoric. It isn't an obfuscation. It is the truth." Doubtful Try A Prove It Thread *
* Prosecutor Burden Of Proof *
Oh well , by all means , pretend that the rhetoric of petty hearsay is relevant , pretend that it does not represent a modus operandi of those whose purpose is obfuscation , who are foolishly exploited for their objectivity and ignorance , though well paid by slush funds from peoples and governments with tenets of creed that are hostile to individual liberty .Not sure exactly. That isn't this.
* Pandering Tolerance Of The Intolerant To Self Ignorant Fools *
State-sponsored terrorism - Wikipedia
Saudi Arabia is said to be the world's largest source of funds and promoter of Salafist jihadism,[103]
The interpretation of Islam promoted by this funding was the strict, conservative Saudi-based Wahhabism or Salafism.
Throughout the Sunni Muslim world, religious institutions for people both young and old, from children's maddrassas to high-level scholarships received Saudi funding,[111] "books, scholarships, fellowships, and mosques" (for example, "more than 1500 mosques were built and paid for with money obtained from public Saudi funds over the last 50 years"),[112] along with training in the Kingdom for the preachers and teachers who went on to teach and work at these universities, schools, mosques, etc.[113] The funding was also used to reward journalists and academics who followed the Saudis' strict interpretation of Islam; and satellite campuses were built around Egypt for Al Azhar, the world's oldest and most influential
Islamic university.[114]
Saudi Arabia lobby in the United States - Wikipedia
In the first decade of the 21st century the Saudis paid approximately $100 million to American firms to lobby the American government.[4]
Major lobbying firms that work as lobbyists in the pay of the Saudi government include Hill & Knowlton, which has been employed to lobby for Saudi Arabia since 1982.[4] Qorvis Communications has worked for Saudi Arabia since the 9/11 attacks, receiving over $60.3 million over the course of a decade.[5][6]Hogan Lovells U.S., L.L.P., formerly Hogan & Harston, worked for Saudi Arabia in 2009.[4] The Loeffler Group, LLP, headed by former Congressman Tom Loeffler of Texas, was paid $10.5 million by the Saudi government during the first decade of the century, and gave Sandler Innocenzi, Inc. $8.9 million.[4] Patton Boggs, LLP, earned over $3 million from Saudi Arabia for lobbying in the first decade of the century.[4]
The Middle East Policy Council has received large payments from Saudi Arabia to lobby for the Kingdom, including $1 million in 2007.[7][8]
A partial list of firms that have been paid by Saudi Arabia to lobby the American government includes:
Since 2015, the Saudi Arabia paid $18 million to 145 registered lobbyists to influence the U.S. government.[9]
- Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP: $220,770
- Boland & Madigan, Inc: $420,000
- Burson-Marsteller: $3,619,286.85
- Cambridge Associates, Ltd.: $8,505
- Cassidy & Associates, Inc: $720,000
- DNX Partners, LLC: $225,000
- Dutton & Dutton, PC: $3,694,350
- Fleishman-Hillard: $6,400,000
- Gallagher Group, LLC: $612,337.37
- Iler Interests, LP: $388,231.14
- Loeffler Tuggey Pauerstein Rosenthal, LLP: $2,350,457.12
- Loeffler, Jonas & Tuggey, LLP: $1,260,000
- MPD Consultants, LLP: $1,447,267.13
- Powell Tate, Inc: $900,732.77[4]
A partial list of lobbyists that have been paid by Saudi Arabia to lobby for the Kingdom: the Podesta Group, founded by John Podesta and Tony Podesta, the Glover Park Group, former Senator Norm Coleman, H.P. Goldfield, vice chair of Madeleine Albright’s Albright Stonebridge Group, the BGR Group, the Brownstein Hyatt Farber Schreck, the Squire Patton Boggs, the DLA Piper, the Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman, and the Qorvis/MSLGroup.[9][10]
Arab lobby in the United States - Wikipedia
Powerful lobbyists working on behalf of the Arab lobby include Bob Livingston, Tony Podesta, and Toby Moffett. Arab governments have paid "tens of millions of dollars" to "top" lobbying firms that work to influence the American government.[10] This includes the Saudi Arabia lobby, Egypt lobby and the Libya lobby.
In the wake of 9/11, Saudi Arabia hired the lobbying firms Patton Boggs and Qorvis, paying $14 million a year.[10][11]
Lobby fees paid by Arab governments to individual firms "commonly" reach levels of $50,000 and above. In 2009 alone the United Arab Emirates spent $5.3 million, as the Emirates were seeking nuclear technology. In 2009 Morocco spent $3 million and Algeria spent $600,000 on Washington, D.C. lobbyists, and Turkey spent $1.7 million. According to Howard Marlowe, president of the American League of Lobbyists, "These kinds of regimes have a lot of money at their disposal, and that'’s a great attraction."[10]
According to ProPublica, 4 of the top 10 governments lobbying in Washington are Arab, in terms of spending. The United Arab Emirates places first, having spent $10,914,002 in 2007 and 2008. Iraq, Morocco and Saudi Arabia also each spent over $3 million, and the non-Arab, Middle Eastern nation of Turkey also spent over $3 million.[12]
In June 2017, Qatar began a "massive lobbying campaign" in the U.S. after President Donald Trump sided with Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and other Arab countries in imposing a blockade against Qatar. Through August 2018, "Qatar has hired 35 US lobbying firms and paid them a total of at least $19.5 million." According to disclosure filings, "The lobbyists contacted hundreds of members of the US Congress and dozens of journalists and Trump administration officials while spending millions of dollars on advertising that promotes Qatar as a US ally."[13] Lobbyists hired by Qatar include Trump fundraiser Brian Ballard of Ballard Partners and former attorney general John Ashcroft.[14][15] Mohammed bin Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, brother of the Emir of Qatar, is alleged to be directing the U.S. lobbying campaign.[16]
" Doubtful Try A Prove It Thread *
* Prosecutor Burden Of Proof *
Oh well , by all means , pretend that the rhetoric of petty hearsay is relevant , pretend that it does not represent a modus operandi of those whose purpose is obfuscation , who are foolishly exploited for their objectivity and ignorance , though well paid by slush funds from peoples and governments with tenets of creed that are hostile to individual liberty .Not sure exactly. That isn't this.
* Pandering Tolerance Of The Intolerant To Self Ignorant Fools *
State-sponsored terrorism - Wikipedia
Saudi Arabia is said to be the world's largest source of funds and promoter of Salafist jihadism,[103]
The interpretation of Islam promoted by this funding was the strict, conservative Saudi-based Wahhabism or Salafism.
Throughout the Sunni Muslim world, religious institutions for people both young and old, from children's maddrassas to high-level scholarships received Saudi funding,[111] "books, scholarships, fellowships, and mosques" (for example, "more than 1500 mosques were built and paid for with money obtained from public Saudi funds over the last 50 years"),[112] along with training in the Kingdom for the preachers and teachers who went on to teach and work at these universities, schools, mosques, etc.[113] The funding was also used to reward journalists and academics who followed the Saudis' strict interpretation of Islam; and satellite campuses were built around Egypt for Al Azhar, the world's oldest and most influential
Islamic university.[114]
Saudi Arabia lobby in the United States - Wikipedia
In the first decade of the 21st century the Saudis paid approximately $100 million to American firms to lobby the American government.[4]
Major lobbying firms that work as lobbyists in the pay of the Saudi government include Hill & Knowlton, which has been employed to lobby for Saudi Arabia since 1982.[4] Qorvis Communications has worked for Saudi Arabia since the 9/11 attacks, receiving over $60.3 million over the course of a decade.[5][6]Hogan Lovells U.S., L.L.P., formerly Hogan & Harston, worked for Saudi Arabia in 2009.[4] The Loeffler Group, LLP, headed by former Congressman Tom Loeffler of Texas, was paid $10.5 million by the Saudi government during the first decade of the century, and gave Sandler Innocenzi, Inc. $8.9 million.[4] Patton Boggs, LLP, earned over $3 million from Saudi Arabia for lobbying in the first decade of the century.[4]
The Middle East Policy Council has received large payments from Saudi Arabia to lobby for the Kingdom, including $1 million in 2007.[7][8]
A partial list of firms that have been paid by Saudi Arabia to lobby the American government includes:
Since 2015, the Saudi Arabia paid $18 million to 145 registered lobbyists to influence the U.S. government.[9]
- Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP: $220,770
- Boland & Madigan, Inc: $420,000
- Burson-Marsteller: $3,619,286.85
- Cambridge Associates, Ltd.: $8,505
- Cassidy & Associates, Inc: $720,000
- DNX Partners, LLC: $225,000
- Dutton & Dutton, PC: $3,694,350
- Fleishman-Hillard: $6,400,000
- Gallagher Group, LLC: $612,337.37
- Iler Interests, LP: $388,231.14
- Loeffler Tuggey Pauerstein Rosenthal, LLP: $2,350,457.12
- Loeffler, Jonas & Tuggey, LLP: $1,260,000
- MPD Consultants, LLP: $1,447,267.13
- Powell Tate, Inc: $900,732.77[4]
A partial list of lobbyists that have been paid by Saudi Arabia to lobby for the Kingdom: the Podesta Group, founded by John Podesta and Tony Podesta, the Glover Park Group, former Senator Norm Coleman, H.P. Goldfield, vice chair of Madeleine Albright’s Albright Stonebridge Group, the BGR Group, the Brownstein Hyatt Farber Schreck, the Squire Patton Boggs, the DLA Piper, the Pillsbury Winthrop Shaw Pittman, and the Qorvis/MSLGroup.[9][10]
Arab lobby in the United States - Wikipedia
Powerful lobbyists working on behalf of the Arab lobby include Bob Livingston, Tony Podesta, and Toby Moffett. Arab governments have paid "tens of millions of dollars" to "top" lobbying firms that work to influence the American government.[10] This includes the Saudi Arabia lobby, Egypt lobby and the Libya lobby.
In the wake of 9/11, Saudi Arabia hired the lobbying firms Patton Boggs and Qorvis, paying $14 million a year.[10][11]
Lobby fees paid by Arab governments to individual firms "commonly" reach levels of $50,000 and above. In 2009 alone the United Arab Emirates spent $5.3 million, as the Emirates were seeking nuclear technology. In 2009 Morocco spent $3 million and Algeria spent $600,000 on Washington, D.C. lobbyists, and Turkey spent $1.7 million. According to Howard Marlowe, president of the American League of Lobbyists, "These kinds of regimes have a lot of money at their disposal, and that'’s a great attraction."[10]
According to ProPublica, 4 of the top 10 governments lobbying in Washington are Arab, in terms of spending. The United Arab Emirates places first, having spent $10,914,002 in 2007 and 2008. Iraq, Morocco and Saudi Arabia also each spent over $3 million, and the non-Arab, Middle Eastern nation of Turkey also spent over $3 million.[12]
In June 2017, Qatar began a "massive lobbying campaign" in the U.S. after President Donald Trump sided with Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, and other Arab countries in imposing a blockade against Qatar. Through August 2018, "Qatar has hired 35 US lobbying firms and paid them a total of at least $19.5 million." According to disclosure filings, "The lobbyists contacted hundreds of members of the US Congress and dozens of journalists and Trump administration officials while spending millions of dollars on advertising that promotes Qatar as a US ally."[13] Lobbyists hired by Qatar include Trump fundraiser Brian Ballard of Ballard Partners and former attorney general John Ashcroft.[14][15] Mohammed bin Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, brother of the Emir of Qatar, is alleged to be directing the U.S. lobbying campaign.[16][/QUOTE
I'm telling you that Taz is a racist. It isn't rhetoric. It isn't an obfuscation. It is the truth.
in reference to what races is Taz a 'racist'?
Actually, I'm very successful in life, and every (I know) can see it.Outcomes. But there are signs for all to see.Who decides if I'm failing? You?Yes. It means everything.I don't understand this straw grasp. Does it even mean anything?So yes, there is indeed something you have already done that proves an absolute goodness does exist.
Life is a test and you are failing it.
You claimed something and couldn't back it up. Again.I wouldn't expect you to see it any other way, Taz.Your concession is duly noted. Now move along.And yet the sky will remain blue whether or not I prove it to you.You made the claim, it's up to you to prove it. See how that works?And yet you cannot bring yourself to lie about not being a racist or tell the truth that you are.Moral laws are subjective, ex: some people are ok with abortion, some aren't. There is no universal innate rule.
I win again, dummy.
According to your broad brush , just about anyone would be a racist .I'm telling you that Taz is a racist. It isn't rhetoric. It isn't an obfuscation. It is the truth.
" Where does apostasy violate non aggression principles ? " is a poignant question for the entire middle east .Any ideology where apostasy is punishable by death needs to be challenged.
I hope you don't mind if I remain suspicious.Actually, I'm very successful in life, and every (I know) can see it.Outcomes. But there are signs for all to see.Who decides if I'm failing? You?Yes. It means everything.I don't understand this straw grasp. Does it even mean anything?So yes, there is indeed something you have already done that proves an absolute goodness does exist.
Life is a test and you are failing it.
I've read your posts. You never denied it.You claimed something and couldn't back it up. Again.I wouldn't expect you to see it any other way, Taz.Your concession is duly noted. Now move along.And yet the sky will remain blue whether or not I prove it to you.You made the claim, it's up to you to prove it. See how that works?And yet you cannot bring yourself to lie about not being a racist or tell the truth that you are.
I win again, dummy.