Why Confront Islam?

[longknife]

In spite of all your apologizing about raghead practices, the truth is exactly what the meme pointed out - it is a common practice and accepted by Muzzie religious leaders.

It's not a "common" practice. It's a practice in one country out of dozens, where it is illegal, was prosecuted under some governments, and predated Islams.

But you do go on with using racist terms like "Raghead", they totally strengthen your argument.

People who live in Third World shitholes deserve to be treated with little or no respect.

 

[JoeB131]

People who live in Third World shitholes deserve to be treated with little or no respect.

Again, you realize that they reason why most third world countries are "shitholes" is because the "First World" (Industrialized countries) have exploited them for centuries, right? You do know the history of the term "Third World", correct?

The problem with abusing people who have less than you do is that you invite someone with more wealth than you have to abuse you...

WHich come to think of it, does describe most of the White Trash in this country.

 

[Lysistrata]

Why "confront" a religion? Each of the world's religions has its dregs. Why Islam? Christianity has garbage like graham and jeffress and focus on the family as well.

 

[longknife]

 

[JoeB131]

Um, that's like claiming we are all goign to end up dressing like the Amish.

Most muslims don't dress like that.

 

[danielpalos]

In the US, women really do have the right to proclaim, "I put my scent you; I expect your vote!"

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Why "confront" a religion?

In this case, one religion in particular is a bigger problem. Nobody said we can't or shouldn't confront the ills of other religions. But one is the biggest problem in the world right now. If you can't admit that, then you are not yet fit to have an honest conversation about the topic.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Most muslims don't dress like that.

Thanks to secular reform of Islam. Thanks to people confronting the terrible ideas in Islam. Thanks to people standing up for liberal principles. You know, the people you reflexively browbeat.

 

[there4eyeM]

Why "confront" a religion? Each of the world's religions has its dregs. Why Islam? Christianity has garbage like graham and jeffress and focus on the family as well.

The only problem with "confronting" a religion is if that "religion" has excessive responses to confrontation.

 

[Lysistrata]

Why "confront" a religion?

In this case, one religion in particular is a bigger problem. Nobody said we can't or shouldn't confront the I'll of other religions. But one is the biggest problem in the world right now. If you can't admit that, then you are not yet fit to have an honest conversation about the topic.

There is no reason to "confront" an entire religion. If someone actually does something wrong, they can be confronted, regardless of religion. I live in a racially , ethnically, and religiously diverse neighborhood, but everybody behaves and there aren't many problems here based on racial, religious, or ethnic factors.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

There is no reason to "confront" an entire religion.

Of course there is, as the religion is the source and instruction book of the terrible ideas. To reform the religion, you confront it. If you conflate ideas with people, that's your error. The moderates will be on board. They will stand next to you and condemn the horrible treatment of women, and the nasty bigotry, and horrible ideas like punishment for apostasy. And if they don't stand with you, well, then...it's good to know who our enemies are, isn't it?

And yes, they would be our enemies.

 

[there4eyeM]

From Wikipedia: Taqiya - Wikipedia
"In Islam, Taqiya or taqiyya (Arabic: تقیة‎ taqiyyah, literally "prudence, fear")[1][2] is a precautionary dissimulation or denial of religious belief and practice in the face of persecution.[1][3][4][5] Another term for this concept, kitmān(lit. "action of covering, dissimulation"), has a more specific meaning of dissimulation by silence or omission.[6][7]"

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

From Wikipedia: Taqiya - Wikipedia
"In Islam, Taqiya or taqiyya (Arabic: تقیة‎ taqiyyah, literally "prudence, fear")[1][2] is a precautionary dissimulation or denial of religious belief and practice in the face of persecution.[1][3][4][5] Another term for this concept, kitmān(lit. "action of covering, dissimulation"), has a more specific meaning of dissimulation by silence or omission.[6][7]"

For the more nasty fundamentalists, this means concealing your true beliefs and motives. Like, not telling a village you are going to kill their men and rape their women and children, when convincing it to surrender.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

"If dying for their religion is what they desire, well then, I'm here to help." - Christopher Hitchens

 

[JoeB131]

Thanks to secular reform of Islam. Thanks to people confronting the terrible ideas in Islam. Thanks to people standing up for liberal principles. You know, the people you reflexively browbeat.

Actually, quite the contrary, the constant attacks from the Western World have made secularism less popular in the Islamic World.

Used to be most of the Islamic countries were secular... then we like a bunch of dumb-asses supported guys like Bin Laden because those secular commies were too close to the Russians.

 

[JoeB131]

"If dying for their religion is what they desire, well then, I'm here to help." - Christopher Hitchens

Funny, I suspect that neither you nor fat-boy Hitchens signed up for the military to kill Muslims for that oil they are standing on.

Let some poor working class kid do that.

Fuck you and the Hitchens you rode in on.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Actually, quite the contrary, the constant attacks from the Western World have made secularism less popular in the Islamic World.

Hahaha...oh man, that is so unbelievably stupid. No, the fundamentalists with weapons have made the Muslim world less secular. Write that down.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Funny, I suspect that neither you nor fat-boy Hitchens signed up for the military to kill Muslims for that oil they are standing on.

Inappropriate response and the charltan's tactic called "bait and switch". You simply are not equipped or not to have an honest discussion of this topic and should probably shut up immediately.

 

[JoeB131]

Inappropriate response and the charltan's tactic called "bait and switch". You simply are not equipped or not to have an honest discussion of this topic and should probably shut up immediately.

Completely appropriate response.. People like you are perfectly happy to send OTHER PEOPLE'S Kids off to die for oil and Zionism.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

People like you are perfectly happy to send OTHER PEOPLE'S Kids off to die for oil and Zionism.

Nah, you just made that up because you are a lazy minded whiner who needs to create low hanging fruit for himself to grapple with. Nothing about war makes me happy, and I am speaking more to combating bad ideas with better ideas anyway. So stop your rabid crybabying and try to focus on what is being said.