Why can't liberals be honest about ANYTHING?

[P@triot]

Defense is income redistribution: Take from the citizens and give to the defense industry. And, income redistribution is socialist...right?

They don't "give it" to the defense industry (seriously, come on now, you can't be that stupid) .

If a man goes out and builds a tank, and the government buys that tank from him, that is CAPITALISM, stupid. That is not socialism. If another man goes out and builds battle ships, and the government buys those battleships from him, that is CAPITALISM, stupid.

Man alive, how do you function in life? Your IQ can't be above 7 if you truly believe the nonsense you are spewing.

So...it's only socialism if the government gives him money and he DOESN'T build a tank? That is, if the government gets nothing in return...right?

Ok. Then...is it socialism when the government pays a farmer to NOT grow a crop? Careful now...the GOP has supported that for decades.

Absolutely

I'm sorry, are you under the impression that I think EVERY policy ever created by the Republican's was "good" and "right"? If so, you're much dumber than I even thought...

Unlike you liberals, I don't pledge a dying allegiance to the Republican's. I can actually criticize them when they deserve it.

 

[Oldguy]

Excuse me?

I think you're confused.

I'm asking rot-brain, why these CEOs are praising a system that would strip their stake in the company away.

And, I'm asking YOU to show me where anybody is advocating state control of those companies.

That's what would happen in a Socialist, and progressing to a Communist society, would it not?

What? Can't produce any evidence?

 

[bobcollum]

And, I'm asking YOU to show me where anybody is advocating state control of those companies.

That's what would happen in a Socialist, and progressing to a Communist society, would it not?

What? Can't produce any evidence?

I'd like to reiterate that you're more than likely confused about what I'm doing here.

 

[P@triot]

Socialism is taking money from someone who earned it, and handing it to others simply because they need it.

How exactly do you equate that to the military? Those men and women are EARNING their pay for work served.

But..they don't NEED to make an income to support their families?

I seriously don't understand what this even means. You think people don't (and I quote) "need to make an income to support their families"? That's only true in communism/socialism/marxism (so I guess you would believe that).

 

[bobcollum]

So what's the deal Rottie?

Why would leaders of these corporations want a system that would ruin whatever they personally have?

 

[P@triot]

I was just looking at all the corporate campaign contributions to Obama for this recent election.

Too bad you couldn't relay this info to them quicker Rottie, they inadvertently supported someone that's looking to take full control of their company and profits.

They must not be very bright.

Well duh! The only one "not very bright" is YOU for being shocked at this "epiphany" you just had....

This story (had you not been too lazy to click on it and read it) was about CEO Jeff Immelt praising communism and supporting Obama.

Seriously folks, you can't make this stuff up. Ole' Bob here thought he just came to some ground breaking conclusion. God damn is that funny....

Please explain how state-control of these corporations will benefit those that now profit from it.

It wouldn't.... at all..... which is what makes it so damn funny. The left wants various forms of socialism/communism/marxism when NONE of it EVER "benefits" ANYTHING. History has proven it destroys nations and collapses economy's. Yet here the stupid liberal sits calling for it (I think at the end of the day it's a lazy thing - they don't want to work and they think they can avoid it through marxism).

 

[P@triot]

So, the debt Ronald Reagan run up with defense spending was "socialist?" Doesn't it therefore follow that Reagan was a socialist? Why, or why not?

Socialism is taking money from someone who earned it, and handing it to others simply because they need it.

How exactly do you equate that to the military? Those men and women are EARNING their pay for work served. Trying to make this case is like claiming congress is "socialism" because we pay them to do a job....

Please try and keep up. Or at least ask your mom what these terms mean before commenting on them

By your OWN DEFINITION.

The military is socialism.

The military EARNS it......

God damn, I am laughing so hard right now watching you three monkey's fucking a football!

If a man SERVES, he is EARNING it just like someone working at a corporation. They are working for that money. It's pure capitalism you stupid monkey!

 

[francoHFW]

Beckbots! Total idiocy...liberal Nazis? LOL Total ignorance and the fascist big lie...

Wealth redistribution isn't socialist- Pubs have been doing it for years. The top 2% have tripled their wealth under voodoo, and gotten 93% of the growth in the last 4 years, while the nonrich and the country go to hell. RWers are brainwashed tools of the greedy rich, PERIOD.

See sig pp1 for what they're not told, and sig pp3 for the BS they are....a disgrace.

 

[Greenbeard]

He also said how much he LOVES (literally started to talk in sexual terms if you saw the ENTIRE video) a single payer system, because it is redistributive. Why anyone believes they are entitled to what someone else has is mind-boggling.

Medicare and Medicaid are single-payer systems. Berwick ran Medicare and Medicaid (and extremely well, by all accounts).

To keep one of the foremost experts on health systems and quality improvement from running our single-payer programs because he gave a speech in which he said he liked a single-payer program would be idiocy. As evidenced by the fact that he was really, really good at his job.

If you think liking Medicare is a disqualifier for running it, it's no wonder you wingnuts break everything you touch when you get power.

 

[P@triot]

That's what would happen in a Socialist, and progressing to a Communist society, would it not?

What? Can't produce any evidence?

I'd like to reiterate that you're more than likely confused about what I'm doing here.

See what I mean here folks? Old Guy and Bobcollum are on the same side, but their so stupid and confused about the issue, they've actually turned on each other.

Man this thread has given me some great laughs. God bless you liberals - I really needed that. Merry Christmas to all of you liberal Nazi's!

 

[francoHFW]

Socialists for years have been defined as ALWAYS democratic, and have NEVER "evolved into communism (has only been put in by violent revolution).

ALL this BS is propaganda is just whipping up the dupes against O-care, a PUB PLAN to get costs under control. "Marxism" my azz. 2014 will prove Pubs are lying a-holes, and the dupes total fools.

 

[bobcollum]

Of course, after reviewing the link it's clear that Immelt was referring to China, and that their system seemingly is working for them, and from the perspective of economic growth, it's fairly accurate.

If any of you do anything, at least go to the link to see the ridiculous pic of Beck trying to look like he's in the 1950's on the left side of the page.

What a shyster.

 

[bobcollum]

What? Can't produce any evidence?

I'd like to reiterate that you're more than likely confused about what I'm doing here.

See what I mean here folks? Old Guy and Bobcollum are on the same side, but their so stupid and confused about the issue, they've actually turned on each other.

Man this thread has given me some great laughs. God bless you liberals - I really needed that. Merry Christmas to all of you liberal Nazi's!

Yo, Capt. Clown, it's pretty clear that I had a grasp of what was going on.

Your dishonesty is noted, as usual.

 

[Oldguy]

That's what would happen in a Socialist, and progressing to a Communist society, would it not?

What? Can't produce any evidence?

I'd like to reiterate that you're more than likely confused about what I'm doing here.

Can you show me one country which evolved from whatever your definition of socialism is (by the way, just what IS that definition?) to communism?

 

[Oldguy]

What? Can't produce any evidence?

I'd like to reiterate that you're more than likely confused about what I'm doing here.

See what I mean here folks? Old Guy and Bobcollum are on the same side, but their so stupid and confused about the issue, they've actually turned on each other.

Man this thread has given me some great laughs. God bless you liberals - I really needed that. Merry Christmas to all of you liberal Nazi's!

In other words, you're outa here because you can't stand the heat? Right?

 

[francoHFW]

OP: Brainwashed drivel.

 

[Oldguy]

OP: Brainwashed drivel.

Yep. Brainwashed drivel which he can't defend.

 

[Sallow]

Socialism is taking money from someone who earned it, and handing it to others simply because they need it.

How exactly do you equate that to the military? Those men and women are EARNING their pay for work served. Trying to make this case is like claiming congress is "socialism" because we pay them to do a job....

Please try and keep up. Or at least ask your mom what these terms mean before commenting on them

By your OWN DEFINITION.

The military is socialism.

The military EARNS it......

God damn, I am laughing so hard right now watching you three monkey's fucking a football!

If a man SERVES, he is EARNING it just like someone working at a corporation. They are working for that money. It's pure capitalism you stupid monkey!

Seriously.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

When the government takes over a private function?

That's socialism.

Police and firemen earn their keep as well.

Doesn't mean that's not socialism as well.

 

[Sallow]

What? Can't produce any evidence?

I'd like to reiterate that you're more than likely confused about what I'm doing here.

Can you show me one country which evolved from whatever your definition of socialism is (by the way, just what IS that definition?) to communism?

Bob's on your side, Oldguy.

Just sayin'

 

[Sallow]

Just so we all know what we are talking about:

socialism
noun (Concise Encyclopedia)



System of social organization in which private property and the distribution of income are subject to social control; also, the political movements aimed at putting that system into practice. Because “social control” may be interpreted in widely diverging ways, socialism ranges from statist to libertarian, from Marxist to liberal. The term was first used to describe the doctrines of Charles Fourier, Henri de Saint-Simon, and Robert Owen, who emphasized noncoercive communities of people working noncompetitively for the spiritual and physical well-being of all (see utopian socialism). Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels, seeing socialism as a transition state between capitalism and communism, appropriated what they found useful in socialist movements to develop their “scientific socialism.” In the 20th century, the Soviet Union was the principal model of strictly centralized socialism, while Sweden and Denmark were well-known for their noncommunist socialism. See also collectivism, communitarianism, social democracy.