Why are some many anti-religious and...

The laws you live under today in the US are based on religious principles. More religious principles means more values and morals for society. The lack of morals and values would lead to a more chaotic society.

Actually they aren't. Being an atheist doesn't mean one has no morals, it's very hard for the delusional to understand that.

They are too, they're based on the Ten Commandments mostly, atheists have nothing upon which to base any morals and values, thats why wahtever morals and values they do have are derived from religious sources.

Im an atheist, yet i do not commit murder nor do i have any desire to. There are countless "god fearing" people in prison who HAVE murdered, raped, assaulted, robbed, etc. Every man on deathrow prays to your god.

Why the fuck would i need that dumb ass book of yours to know the difference between right and wrong? You are so god damn clueless.
 
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They are too, they're based on the Ten Commandments mostly

Boy, you sure say alot of stupid things, dont you. How many of your ten commandments are even illegal in the US? The answer is 2. Where in the ten commandments does it talk about not torturing people? How about molesting children? Rape? Kidnapping? You can hardly say that our laws are based off of the ten commandments. Thats dumb dumb talk.

Your ten commandments are a joke, and the guy that wrote them was a fucking retard. This is further proof how out of touch those primitive men who wrote your book are from things that are considered morally important today.
 
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It seems like being against homosexual marriage, premarital sex, pornography, foul language, and dressing distastefully on religious grounds makes one an intolerant, ignorant bigot, but being against these sinful things actually will improve and help society.

Why are so many religious zealots on such a crusade to rid the world of what they find to be sinful when maybe they should focus on themselves and mind their own business?

None of the examples that you mentioned will "improve and help society" if they were to magically disappear.

And by continuing to rant against those that are doing things that you find distasteful, but do not infringe on your life, is the definition of an intolerant and ignorant bigot.

There is nothing that you can do, there is nothing that you can say that will rid the world of these "sinful" acts. Be happy that because you do not engage in any of these acts, that you will be "seated at the right hand of the Lord"...and stop worrying about others.

Is USMB the place of strawmen and ad-hominems? The bass isn't interested in what people do in their personal lives, at the same time people don't have to publicize and glamourize what they do in their personal lives and trey to force people to accept it. If all those things that the Bass criticizes were not glamourized and publicized society would be a better place. If two men want to do it up the butt thats their biz, its shouldn't be glamourized nor publicized as cool.
 
It seems like being against homosexual marriage, premarital sex, pornography, foul language, and dressing distastefully on religious grounds makes one an intolerant, ignorant bigot, but being against these sinful things actually will improve and help society.

Why are so many religious zealots on such a crusade to rid the world of what they find to be sinful when maybe they should focus on themselves and mind their own business?

None of the examples that you mentioned will "improve and help society" if they were to magically disappear.

And by continuing to rant against those that are doing things that you find distasteful, but do not infringe on your life, is the definition of an intolerant and ignorant bigot.

There is nothing that you can do, there is nothing that you can say that will rid the world of these "sinful" acts. Be happy that because you do not engage in any of these acts, that you will be "seated at the right hand of the Lord"...and stop worrying about others.

Is USMB the place of strawmen and ad-hominems? The bass isn't interested in what people do in their personal lives, at the same time people don't have to publicize and glamourize what they do in their personal lives and trey to force people to accept it. If all those things that the Bass criticizes were not glamourized and publicized society would be a better place. If two men want to do it up the butt thats their biz, its shouldn't be glamourized nor publicized as cool.

2 WORDS- SPELL CHECK!

You didn't answer my questions, and only a delusional fool refers to himself in the third person.

Atheism is the comprehensive world view of persons who are free (IE freethinkers) from theism and have freed themselves of supernatural beliefs altogether. It is predicated on ancient Greek materialism.

Atheism involves the mental attitude that unreservedly accepts the supremacy of reason and aims at establishing a life-style and ethical outlook verifiable by experience and the scientific method, independent of all arbitrary assumptions of authority and creeds.

Materialism declares that the cosmos is devoid of immanent conscious purpose; that it is governed by its own inherent, immutable and impersonal laws; that there is no supernatural influence in human life; that humankind, finding the resources within themselves, can and must create their own destiny. it teaches that we must prize our life on earth and strive to always improve it. It holds that human beings are capable of creating a social system based on reason and justice. Materialism's "faith" is in humankind and their ability to transform the world culture by their own efforts. This is a commitment that is, in its very essence, life-asserting. It considers the struggle for progress as a moral obligation that is impossible without noble ideas that inspire us to bold, creative works. Materialism holds that our potential for good and more fulfilling cultural development is, for all practical purposes, unlimited.
 
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Why are so many religious zealots on such a crusade to rid the world of what they find to be sinful when maybe they should focus on themselves and mind their own business?

None of the examples that you mentioned will "improve and help society" if they were to magically disappear.

And by continuing to rant against those that are doing things that you find distasteful, but do not infringe on your life, is the definition of an intolerant and ignorant bigot.

There is nothing that you can do, there is nothing that you can say that will rid the world of these "sinful" acts. Be happy that because you do not engage in any of these acts, that you will be "seated at the right hand of the Lord"...and stop worrying about others.

Is USMB the place of strawmen and ad-hominems? The bass isn't interested in what people do in their personal lives, at the same time people don't have to publicize and glamourize what they do in their personal lives and trey to force people to accept it. If all those things that the Bass criticizes were not glamourized and publicized society would be a better place. If two men want to do it up the butt thats their biz, its shouldn't be glamourized nor publicized as cool.

2 WORDS- SPELL CHECK!

You didn't answer my questions, and only a delusional fool refers to himself in the third person.

Atheism is the comprehensive world view of persons who are free (IE freethinkers) from theism and have freed themselves of supernatural beliefs altogether, It is predicated on ancient Greek materialism.

Atheism involves the mental attitude that unreservedly accepts the supremacy of reason and aims at establishing a life-style and ethical outlook verifiable by experience and the scientific method, independent of all arbitrary assumptions of authority and creeds.

Materialism declares that the cosmos is devoid of immanent conscious purpose; that it is governed by its own inherent, immutable and impersonal laws; that there is no supernatural influence in human life; that humankind, finding the resources within themselves, can and must create their own destiny. it teaches that we must prize our life on earth and strive to always improve it. It holds that human beings are capable of creating a social system based on reason and justice. Materialism's "faith" is in humankind and their ability to transform the world culture by their own efforts. This is a commitment that is, in its very essence, life-asserting. It considers the struggle for progress as a moral obligation that is impossible without noble ideas that inspire us to bold, creative works. Materialism holds that our potential for good and more fulfilling cultural development is, for all practical purposes, unlimited.

the most moronic post ever on USMB, even more moronic than Shogun and ABikerfailure. materialism is the worst of man's sins in the Bass' opinion, materialism is the reason whyy we have blood diamonds in Africa.
 
Scoff at and dismiss religious values and morals as intolerance? It seems like being against homosexual marriage, premarital sex, pornography, foul language, and dressing distastefully on religious grounds makes one an intolerant, ignorant bigot, but being against these sinful things actually will improve and help society.

Ignorance must truly be bliss ... since you seem to revel in it.

Why do you think that only your religious ideas are valid, much less think that everyone who doesn't share them are "anti-religion" ... ignorance .. with each post you remove all doubt.
 
Is USMB the place of strawmen and ad-hominems? The bass isn't interested in what people do in their personal lives, at the same time people don't have to publicize and glamourize what they do in their personal lives and trey to force people to accept it. If all those things that the Bass criticizes were not glamourized and publicized society would be a better place. If two men want to do it up the butt thats their biz, its shouldn't be glamourized nor publicized as cool.

2 WORDS- SPELL CHECK!

You didn't answer my questions, and only a delusional fool refers to himself in the third person.

Atheism is the comprehensive world view of persons who are free (IE freethinkers) from theism and have freed themselves of supernatural beliefs altogether, It is predicated on ancient Greek materialism.

Atheism involves the mental attitude that unreservedly accepts the supremacy of reason and aims at establishing a life-style and ethical outlook verifiable by experience and the scientific method, independent of all arbitrary assumptions of authority and creeds.

Materialism declares that the cosmos is devoid of immanent conscious purpose; that it is governed by its own inherent, immutable and impersonal laws; that there is no supernatural influence in human life; that humankind, finding the resources within themselves, can and must create their own destiny. it teaches that we must prize our life on earth and strive to always improve it. It holds that human beings are capable of creating a social system based on reason and justice. Materialism's "faith" is in humankind and their ability to transform the world culture by their own efforts. This is a commitment that is, in its very essence, life-asserting. It considers the struggle for progress as a moral obligation that is impossible without noble ideas that inspire us to bold, creative works. Materialism holds that our potential for good and more fulfilling cultural development is, for all practical purposes, unlimited.

the most moronic post ever on USMB, even more moronic than Shogun and ABikerfailure. materialism is the worst of man's sins in the Bass' opinion, materialism is the reason whyy we have blood diamonds in Africa.

It's only moronic to you because it involves reality, not dogma. Still no answer to my questions yet .
Not materialism as in possessions, materialism as in the real world, not the fantasy deity world.

add-if money is the root of all evil; why do churches beg for it?
 
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Religion is a great topic for comedians... that I know for sure... :razz:
 
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Scoff at and dismiss religious values and morals as intolerance? It seems like being against homosexual marriage, premarital sex, pornography, foul language, and dressing distastefully on religious grounds makes one an intolerant, ignorant bigot, but being against these sinful things actually will improve and help society.

Your examples aside, those that feel the need to constantly attack religion, and Christianity specifically, do so out of fear or wannabe-intellectual elitism.
 
Scoff at and dismiss religious values and morals as intolerance? It seems like being against homosexual marriage, premarital sex, pornography, foul language, and dressing distastefully on religious grounds makes one an intolerant, ignorant bigot, but being against these sinful things actually will improve and help society.

Your examples aside, those that feel the need to constantly attack religion, and Christianity specifically, do so out of fear or wannabe-intellectual elitism.

he was saying you have to have religion in order to have morals and that's not true.
 
Scoff at and dismiss religious values and morals as intolerance? It seems like being against homosexual marriage, premarital sex, pornography, foul language, and dressing distastefully on religious grounds makes one an intolerant, ignorant bigot, but being against these sinful things actually will improve and help society.

Maybe because people have different religions or none at all and could give a fuck about the religious grounds you use to justify your positions?

Regardless. As insufferable an ass as Charles is, he DOES have a point. The same anti-God Squad can be found ranting in just about every thread in this forum. I have YET to see an actual debate on religion OR ethics that isn't a bunch of name-calling before the first page is full.
 
Listen, dude.. you are your own worst testimony when it comes to religion. You are not the one who should ask this question because you are your own easy answer. Your opinion of what will help society is filed in the waste basket right next to Hitler's suggestions.



Buttwipe.....listen.....you are the perfect example of what the Bass is talking about, you despise religion because following religious morals and values prevents you from living your sinful anything goes lifestyle.

actually, I despise religion because of the nutbat fuckwads it produces. Go look in the mirror if you want to spot one. Your opinion of sin means two things to me: jack and shit. As does your opinoin about cultural moral standards.

ahhh yes.. it's a good time to hemorrhage followers like a severed carotid artery, eh dude?

I despise anti-religious zealots because of the nutbat fuckwads it produces that have to bleed all over every religion thread like a severed carotid artery.
 
Regardless. As insufferable an ass as Charles is, he DOES have a point. The same anti-God Squad can be found ranting in just about every thread in this forum. I have YET to see an actual debate on religion OR ethics that isn't a bunch of name-calling before the first page is full.

"Before the first page is full" is a relative term, when it comes to Terral or Pubeless Infantilium.
 
actually, I despise religion because of the nutbat fuckwads it produces. Go look in the mirror if you want to spot one. Your opinion of sin means two things to me: jack and shit. As does your opinoin about cultural moral standards.

ahhh yes.. it's a good time to hemorrhage followers like a severed carotid artery, eh dude?


Look at how you talk, you cuss more than anyone in here and why? You lack morals and values, mommy and daddy didn't have much of a brain when it came to teaching you, did they? Actually, people who are *NOT* religious are actually the worst ones in society, if they thought about God and Jesus, they would think twice before they did something wrong or something stupid.

riiiight.. because christians NEVER do anything wrong and/or stupid...

:rofl:

:cuckoo:

Sorry, dude. once again you fucking fail.

hell, i'll even let your mention of my family slide given how fubar'ed this thread is.

Who exactly has FUBAR'd the thread?

Please quote a Christian on this board that has posted Christians never do anything wrong and/or stupid. I'd like an explanation from that person myself since it is in direct contradiction to a basic tenet of Christianity. The evidence first though, please.
 
Buttwipe.....listen.....you are the perfect example of what the Bass is talking about, you despise religion because following religious morals and values prevents you from living your sinful anything goes lifestyle.

actually, I despise religion because of the nutbat fuckwads it produces. Go look in the mirror if you want to spot one. Your opinion of sin means two things to me: jack and shit. As does your opinoin about cultural moral standards.

ahhh yes.. it's a good time to hemorrhage followers like a severed carotid artery, eh dude?


Look at how you talk, you cuss more than anyone in here and why? You lack morals and values, mommy and daddy didn't have much of a brain when it came to teaching you, did they? Actually, people who are *NOT* religious are actually the worst ones in society, if they thought about God and Jesus, they would think twice before they did something wrong or something stupid.

Leave family members out of your discussion please.
 
Buttwipe.....listen.....you are the perfect example of what the Bass is talking about, you despise religion because following religious morals and values prevents you from living your sinful anything goes lifestyle.

actually, I despise religion because of the nutbat fuckwads it produces. Go look in the mirror if you want to spot one. Your opinion of sin means two things to me: jack and shit. As does your opinoin about cultural moral standards.

ahhh yes.. it's a good time to hemorrhage followers like a severed carotid artery, eh dude?

I despise anti-religious zealots because of the nutbat fuckwads it produces that have to bleed all over every religion thread like a severed carotid artery.


In case you were interested in seeing what a nutbat's fuckwad looked like...

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Look at how you talk, you cuss more than anyone in here and why? You lack morals and values, mommy and daddy didn't have much of a brain when it came to teaching you, did they? Actually, people who are *NOT* religious are actually the worst ones in society, if they thought about God and Jesus, they would think twice before they did something wrong or something stupid.

riiiight.. because christians NEVER do anything wrong and/or stupid...

:rofl:

:cuckoo:

Sorry, dude. once again you fucking fail.

hell, i'll even let your mention of my family slide given how fubar'ed this thread is.

Real Christians, not pretenders, are truly religious because real Christians don't repeatedly do something they know to be wrong, they haven't really accepted the Word of God if they did. You can't go one day in your entire life without cussing, that shows a lack of discipline as well.

That's BS. "Real" Christians strive to be Christ-like, KNOWING they will fail.

You can't go a day without passing judgment on some group or person. Want to refresh my memory on THAT in regard to what Christ says? Or is it YOU that needs the refresher?
 
riiiight.. because christians NEVER do anything wrong and/or stupid...

:rofl:

:cuckoo:

Sorry, dude. once again you fucking fail.

hell, i'll even let your mention of my family slide given how fubar'ed this thread is.

Real Christians, not pretenders, are truly religious because real Christians don't repeatedly do something they know to be wrong, they haven't really accepted the Word of God if they did. You can't go one day in your entire life without cussing, that shows a lack of discipline as well.

AGAIN, your opinion of what constitutes a "real" christian means two things.. and you know what they are.

Your focus on my vocabulary instead of your weak asses argument conveys says more about your laughable christian standard than it does my discipline, dummy. The More You Know.

Your attacking all Christians because of the actions of the judgmental zealots who don't practice what they preach says a lot about you. You are as adamant in YOUR belief as he is his.
 
Actually they aren't. Being an atheist doesn't mean one has no morals, it's very hard for the delusional to understand that.

They are too, they're based on the Ten Commandments mostly, atheists have nothing upon which to base any morals and values, thats why wahtever morals and values they do have are derived from religious sources.

1-is a jealous god
2-more of the same
3-ditto
4-do you really think no one works on Sunday anymore!
5-common sense
6-9 may have a little to do with laws but again they are just common sense
10-is almost funny, but again just plain old common sense, don't screw your neighbor's ass, lol!

So do you really believe in talking snakes and that an invisible man lives in the sky?
If you do, you must also believe that the earth is flat and that the sun revolves around the earth. Morals and believing in god have nothing in common.
How come so many priests are found guilty of child molestation every day?

As I said ... wannabe intellectual elitists. Smarter than the average bear. :cuckoo:
 
It seems like being against homosexual marriage, premarital sex, pornography, foul language, and dressing distastefully on religious grounds makes one an intolerant, ignorant bigot, but being against these sinful things actually will improve and help society.

Why are so many religious zealots on such a crusade to rid the world of what they find to be sinful when maybe they should focus on themselves and mind their own business?

None of the examples that you mentioned will "improve and help society" if they were to magically disappear.

And by continuing to rant against those that are doing things that you find distasteful, but do not infringe on your life, is the definition of an intolerant and ignorant bigot.

There is nothing that you can do, there is nothing that you can say that will rid the world of these "sinful" acts. Be happy that because you do not engage in any of these acts, that you will be "seated at the right hand of the Lord"...and stop worrying about others.

Why are so many anti-religious zealots on such a crusade to the rid the world of religion just because THEY don't believe in it?

By continuing to rant against those that are doing things that you find distasteful, but do not infringe on your life, is the definition of an intolerant and ignorant bigot.

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