Who Sez 'Liberalism Is A Mental Disorder'????

Well....this demand for the right of males to populate the girl's rooms...and vice versa....does seem to weight heavily on those scales....

How about this....Liberals are well known to snap to attention when they read "experts say....."

So....how about this expert:

1. "Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is ‘Mental Disorder;' Sex Change ‘Biologically Impossible’


2. Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former psychiatrist-in-chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital and its current Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry, said that transgenderism is a “mental disorder” that merits treatment, that sex change is “biologically impossible,” and that people who promote sexual reassignment surgery are collaborating with and promoting a mental disorder.

3. Dr. McHugh, the author of six books and at least 125 peer-reviewed medical articles, made his remarks in a recent commentary in the Wall Street Journal, where he explained that transgender surgery is not the solution for people who suffer a “disorder of ‘assumption’” – the notion that their maleness or femaleness is different than what nature assigned to them biologically.

3. .... a new study showing that the suicide rate among transgendered people who had reassignment surgery is 20 times higher than the suicide rate among non-transgender people. Dr. McHugh further noted studies from Vanderbilt University and London’s Portman Clinic of children who had expressed transgender feelings but for whom, over time, 70%-80% “spontaneously lost those feelings.”


4. ....the Obama administration, Hollywood, and major media such as Time magazine promote transgenderism as normal, said Dr. McHugh, these “policy makers and the media are doing no favors either to the public or the transgendered by treating their confusions as a right in need of defending rather than as a mental disorder



5. ....a mental disorder in two respects. The first is that the idea of sex misalignment is simply mistaken – it does not correspond with physical reality. The second is that it can lead to grim psychological outcomes.”

6. ...a disorder similar to a “dangerously thin” person suffering anorexia who looks in the mirror and thinks they are “overweight,” said McHugh.
This assumption, that one’s gender is only in the mind regardless of anatomical reality, has led some transgendered people to push for social acceptance and affirmation of their own subjective “personal truth,” ...

7. ...studies show between 70% and 80% of children who express transgender feelings “spontaneously lose those feelings” over time.




8. ...the former Johns Hopkins chief of psychiatry also warned against enabling or encouraging certain subgroups of the transgendered, such as young people “susceptible to suggestion from ‘everything is normal’ sex education,” and the schools’ “diversity counselors” who, like “cult leaders,” may “encourage these young people to distance themselves from their families and offer advice on rebutting arguments against having transgender surgery.”

[...“susceptible to suggestion from ‘everything is normal’ sex education,.. He must be talking about Liberals.]



9. “’Sex change’ is biologically impossible,” said McHugh. “People who undergo sex-reassignment surgery do not change from men to women or vice versa. Rather, they become feminized men or masculinized women.

10. Claiming that this is civil-rights matter and encouraging surgical intervention is in reality to collaborate with and promote a mental disorder.” Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is ‘Mental Disorder;' Sex Change ‘Biologically Impossible’



Does this end this absurdity?????

Please don't vote this mental disorder back in.

Or, we could consider the opinion of a major organization of doctors:

AMA Policies on LGBT Issues
General Policies:

H-65.992 Continued Support of Human Rights and Freedom. Our AMA continues (1) to support the dignity of the individual, human rights and the sanctity of human life, and (2) to oppose any discrimination based on an individual's sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, race, religion, disability, ethnic origin, national origin or age and any other such reprehensible policies. (Sub. Res. 107, A-85; Modified by CLRPD Rep. 2, I-95; Reaffirmation A-00; Reaffirmation A-05; Modified: BOT Rep. 11, A-07)

H-65.983 Nondiscrimination Policy. The AMA affirms that it has not been its policy now or in the past to discriminate with regard to sexual orientation or gender identity. (Res. 1, A-93; Reaffirmed: CCB Rep. 6, A-03; Modified: BOT Rep. 11, A-07)

H-65.990 Civil Rights Restoration. The AMA reaffirms its long-standing policy that there is no basis for the denial to any human being of equal rights, privileges, and responsibilities commensurate with his or her individual capabilities and ethical character because of an individual's sex, sexual orientation, gender, gender identity, or transgender status, race, religion, disability, ethnic origin, national origin, or age. (BOT Rep. LL, I-86; Amended by Sunset Report, I-96; Modified: Res. 410, A-03; Reaffirmation A-05)
 
Well....this demand for the right of males to populate the girl's rooms...and vice versa....does seem to weight heavily on those scales....

How about this....Liberals are well known to snap to attention when they read "experts say....."

So....how about this expert:

1. "Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is ‘Mental Disorder;' Sex Change ‘Biologically Impossible’


2. Dr. Paul R. McHugh, the former psychiatrist-in-chief for Johns Hopkins Hospital and its current Distinguished Service Professor of Psychiatry, said that transgenderism is a “mental disorder” that merits treatment, that sex change is “biologically impossible,” and that people who promote sexual reassignment surgery are collaborating with and promoting a mental disorder.

3. Dr. McHugh, the author of six books and at least 125 peer-reviewed medical articles, made his remarks in a recent commentary in the Wall Street Journal, where he explained that transgender surgery is not the solution for people who suffer a “disorder of ‘assumption’” – the notion that their maleness or femaleness is different than what nature assigned to them biologically.

3. .... a new study showing that the suicide rate among transgendered people who had reassignment surgery is 20 times higher than the suicide rate among non-transgender people. Dr. McHugh further noted studies from Vanderbilt University and London’s Portman Clinic of children who had expressed transgender feelings but for whom, over time, 70%-80% “spontaneously lost those feelings.”


4. ....the Obama administration, Hollywood, and major media such as Time magazine promote transgenderism as normal, said Dr. McHugh, these “policy makers and the media are doing no favors either to the public or the transgendered by treating their confusions as a right in need of defending rather than as a mental disorder



5. ....a mental disorder in two respects. The first is that the idea of sex misalignment is simply mistaken – it does not correspond with physical reality. The second is that it can lead to grim psychological outcomes.”

6. ...a disorder similar to a “dangerously thin” person suffering anorexia who looks in the mirror and thinks they are “overweight,” said McHugh.
This assumption, that one’s gender is only in the mind regardless of anatomical reality, has led some transgendered people to push for social acceptance and affirmation of their own subjective “personal truth,” ...

7. ...studies show between 70% and 80% of children who express transgender feelings “spontaneously lose those feelings” over time.




8. ...the former Johns Hopkins chief of psychiatry also warned against enabling or encouraging certain subgroups of the transgendered, such as young people “susceptible to suggestion from ‘everything is normal’ sex education,” and the schools’ “diversity counselors” who, like “cult leaders,” may “encourage these young people to distance themselves from their families and offer advice on rebutting arguments against having transgender surgery.”

[...“susceptible to suggestion from ‘everything is normal’ sex education,.. He must be talking about Liberals.]



9. “’Sex change’ is biologically impossible,” said McHugh. “People who undergo sex-reassignment surgery do not change from men to women or vice versa. Rather, they become feminized men or masculinized women.

10. Claiming that this is civil-rights matter and encouraging surgical intervention is in reality to collaborate with and promote a mental disorder.” Johns Hopkins Psychiatrist: Transgender is ‘Mental Disorder;' Sex Change ‘Biologically Impossible’



Does this end this absurdity?????

Please don't vote this mental disorder back in.

Just wondering if you think the media pushes this stuff.


1. Welcome to the board, Fenton

2. "Just wondering if you think the media pushes this stuff."
The media is a wholly owned subsidiary of Liberalism, Inc.
So....yes, it does.
The Ben Rhodes expose in the NYTimes pretty much admits same.
The only question for particular media-ists is whether they are dupes or apparatchiks.

3. You might be interested in this:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/more-proof-that-the-media-is-leftwing.496306/

Well you know that in america 6 majr multinational corprations preside over 90% of what ameicans digest media wise, right? You now that right?


Now, Fenton.....you don't really want to promote the idea that the industry is not wayyyyyy over on the Left.....
....do you?

Because, Fenton....that would suggest that you are a moron.

Perhaps you should question corporate power then.



"Perhaps you should question corporate power then."

Perhaps you should question your mental faculties.

Here is an exposure of leftist journalists using the term ‘racists’ to cow their political opponents. Enlightening.


  1. "After someone torpedoed Dave Weigel’s Washington Post gig by breaking the code of silence on the Journolist listserv, the race has been on to see who would sell the entire contents of the e-mail messages between the liberal members of the group — and who would get to buy them. We may never know who sold it, but Tucker Carlson and the Daily Caller wound up with the data,…
  2. Daily Caller reporter Jonathan Strong lays out a strategy plotted by Journolist members to kill the Jeremiah Wright story during the 2008 primaries — and to smear Barack Obama’s critics as racists:
  3. …videos surfaced of Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, angrily denouncing whites, the U.S. government and America itself. Obama had once bragged of his closeness to Wright….in mid-April, 2008, at an ABC News debate moderated by Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos. Gibson asked Obama why it had taken him so long – nearly a year since Wright’s remarks became public – to dissociate himself from them.
  4. Watching this all at home were members of Journolist, a listserv comprised of several hundred liberal journalists, as well as like-minded professors and activists. The tough questioning from the ABC anchors left many of them outraged.
  5. …at several points during the 2008 presidential campaign a group of liberal journalists took radical steps to protect their favored candidate. Employees of news organizations including Time, Politico, the Huffington Post, the Baltimore Sun, the Guardian, Salon and the New Republic participated in outpourings of anger over how Obama had been treated in the media, and in some cases plotted to fix the damage.
  6. Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his colleagues to deflect attention from Obama’s relationship with Wright by changing the subject. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”
  7. Journolist members collaborated on an open letter criticizing ABC’s Charlie Gibson for asking questions about Wright during ABC’s presidential debate between Obama and Hillary Clinton….a campaign by professional journalists to tell ABC not to ask tough questions about a candidate’s links to radicals…
  8. Ackerman appealed to the other members of the Journolist group: “If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they’ve put upon us. Instead, take one of them — Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists. Ask: why do they have such a deep-seated problem with a black politician who unites the country? What lurks behind those problems? This makes *them* sputter with rage, which in turn leads to overreaction and self-destruction.”
  9. It certainly puts efforts by the Left to paint the Tea Party as racist in an entirely new light. It also calls into question the ethics and judgment of anyone who participated in that Ackerman thread."
Daily Caller discovers Journolist plot to spike Wright story, smear conservatives as racists - Hot Air
 
Who says? No one who isn't an idiot in a liberal nation established by liberal men for liberty.


And, entering....stage Left.....we have the proof of the thread title.
Do you deny that Liberty comes from liberalism?

I'd be curious if you know of another source?

Maybe you can paste some John Stuart Mill for us?

PoliticalChic professes to champion individualism over collectivism, and yet her favorite US institution is the US military...

...the most anti-individualist, pro-collectivist organization in the country.
 
Who says? No one who isn't an idiot in a liberal nation established by liberal men for liberty.


And, entering....stage Left.....we have the proof of the thread title.
Do you deny that Liberty comes from liberalism?

I'd be curious if you know of another source?

Maybe you can paste some John Stuart Mill for us?


Seems useless to try to educate you...but, I am the eternal optimist.

The 'Greatest Lie"is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country,convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.'And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed....i.e., you..... attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.
 
Just wondering if you think the media pushes this stuff.


1. Welcome to the board, Fenton

2. "Just wondering if you think the media pushes this stuff."
The media is a wholly owned subsidiary of Liberalism, Inc.
So....yes, it does.
The Ben Rhodes expose in the NYTimes pretty much admits same.
The only question for particular media-ists is whether they are dupes or apparatchiks.

3. You might be interested in this:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/more-proof-that-the-media-is-leftwing.496306/

Well you know that in america 6 majr multinational corprations preside over 90% of what ameicans digest media wise, right? You now that right?


Now, Fenton.....you don't really want to promote the idea that the industry is not wayyyyyy over on the Left.....
....do you?

Because, Fenton....that would suggest that you are a moron.

Perhaps you should question corporate power then.


Perhaps you should question your mental faculties.

Here is an exposure of leftist journalists using the term ‘racists’ to cow their political opponents. Enlightening.


  1. "After someone torpedoed Dave Weigel’s Washington Post gig by breaking the code of silence on the Journolist listserv, the race has been on to see who would sell the entire contents of the e-mail messages between the liberal members of the group — and who would get to buy them. We may never know who sold it, but Tucker Carlson and the Daily Caller wound up with the data,…
  2. Daily Caller reporter Jonathan Strong lays out a strategy plotted by Journolist members to kill the Jeremiah Wright story during the 2008 primaries — and to smear Barack Obama’s critics as racists:
  3. …videos surfaced of Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, angrily denouncing whites, the U.S. government and America itself. Obama had once bragged of his closeness to Wright….in mid-April, 2008, at an ABC News debate moderated by Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos. Gibson asked Obama why it had taken him so long – nearly a year since Wright’s remarks became public – to dissociate himself from them.
  4. Watching this all at home were members of Journolist, a listserv comprised of several hundred liberal journalists, as well as like-minded professors and activists. The tough questioning from the ABC anchors left many of them outraged.
  5. …at several points during the 2008 presidential campaign a group of liberal journalists took radical steps to protect their favored candidate. Employees of news organizations including Time, Politico, the Huffington Post, the Baltimore Sun, the Guardian, Salon and the New Republic participated in outpourings of anger over how Obama had been treated in the media, and in some cases plotted to fix the damage.
  6. Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his colleagues to deflect attention from Obama’s relationship with Wright by changing the subject. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”
  7. Journolist members collaborated on an open letter criticizing ABC’s Charlie Gibson for asking questions about Wright during ABC’s presidential debate between Obama and Hillary Clinton….a campaign by professional journalists to tell ABC not to ask tough questions about a candidate’s links to radicals…
  8. Ackerman appealed to the other members of the Journolist group: “If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they’ve put upon us. Instead, take one of them — Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists. Ask: why do they have such a deep-seated problem with a black politician who unites the country? What lurks behind those problems? This makes *them* sputter with rage, which in turn leads to overreaction and self-destruction.”
  9. It certainly puts efforts by the Left to paint the Tea Party as racist in an entirely new light. It also calls into question the ethics and judgment of anyone who participated in that Ackerman thread."
Daily Caller discovers Journolist plot to spike Wright story, smear conservatives as racists - Hot Air


The rightwing propaganda machine's attacks on Obama via the Reverend Wright would have been just as ignorant and misguided

if Wright were White.

Happy now?
 
Just wondering if you think the media pushes this stuff.


1. Welcome to the board, Fenton

2. "Just wondering if you think the media pushes this stuff."
The media is a wholly owned subsidiary of Liberalism, Inc.
So....yes, it does.
The Ben Rhodes expose in the NYTimes pretty much admits same.
The only question for particular media-ists is whether they are dupes or apparatchiks.

3. You might be interested in this:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/more-proof-that-the-media-is-leftwing.496306/

Well you know that in america 6 majr multinational corprations preside over 90% of what ameicans digest media wise, right? You now that right?


Now, Fenton.....you don't really want to promote the idea that the industry is not wayyyyyy over on the Left.....
....do you?

Because, Fenton....that would suggest that you are a moron.

Perhaps you should question corporate power then.



"Perhaps you should question corporate power then."

Perhaps you should question your mental faculties.

Here is an exposure of leftist journalists using the term ‘racists’ to cow their political opponents. Enlightening.


  1. "After someone torpedoed Dave Weigel’s Washington Post gig by breaking the code of silence on the Journolist listserv, the race has been on to see who would sell the entire contents of the e-mail messages between the liberal members of the group — and who would get to buy them. We may never know who sold it, but Tucker Carlson and the Daily Caller wound up with the data,…
  2. Daily Caller reporter Jonathan Strong lays out a strategy plotted by Journolist members to kill the Jeremiah Wright story during the 2008 primaries — and to smear Barack Obama’s critics as racists:
  3. …videos surfaced of Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, angrily denouncing whites, the U.S. government and America itself. Obama had once bragged of his closeness to Wright….in mid-April, 2008, at an ABC News debate moderated by Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos. Gibson asked Obama why it had taken him so long – nearly a year since Wright’s remarks became public – to dissociate himself from them.
  4. Watching this all at home were members of Journolist, a listserv comprised of several hundred liberal journalists, as well as like-minded professors and activists. The tough questioning from the ABC anchors left many of them outraged.
  5. …at several points during the 2008 presidential campaign a group of liberal journalists took radical steps to protect their favored candidate. Employees of news organizations including Time, Politico, the Huffington Post, the Baltimore Sun, the Guardian, Salon and the New Republic participated in outpourings of anger over how Obama had been treated in the media, and in some cases plotted to fix the damage.
  6. Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his colleagues to deflect attention from Obama’s relationship with Wright by changing the subject. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”
  7. Journolist members collaborated on an open letter criticizing ABC’s Charlie Gibson for asking questions about Wright during ABC’s presidential debate between Obama and Hillary Clinton….a campaign by professional journalists to tell ABC not to ask tough questions about a candidate’s links to radicals…
  8. Ackerman appealed to the other members of the Journolist group: “If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they’ve put upon us. Instead, take one of them — Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists. Ask: why do they have such a deep-seated problem with a black politician who unites the country? What lurks behind those problems? This makes *them* sputter with rage, which in turn leads to overreaction and self-destruction.”
  9. It certainly puts efforts by the Left to paint the Tea Party as racist in an entirely new light. It also calls into question the ethics and judgment of anyone who participated in that Ackerman thread."
Daily Caller discovers Journolist plot to spike Wright story, smear conservatives as racists - Hot Air

Stalinist Russia had a more legitimate press than the MSM in this nation is.
 
Who says? No one who isn't an idiot in a liberal nation established by liberal men for liberty.


And, entering....stage Left.....we have the proof of the thread title.
Do you deny that Liberty comes from liberalism?

I'd be curious if you know of another source?

Maybe you can paste some John Stuart Mill for us?


Seems useless to try to educate you...but, I am the eternal optimist.

The 'Greatest Lie"is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country,convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.'And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed....i.e., you..... attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.
So, liberty does come from liberals and liberalism. I guess you no longer care for that?

/thread.
 
1. Welcome to the board, Fenton

2. "Just wondering if you think the media pushes this stuff."
The media is a wholly owned subsidiary of Liberalism, Inc.
So....yes, it does.
The Ben Rhodes expose in the NYTimes pretty much admits same.
The only question for particular media-ists is whether they are dupes or apparatchiks.

3. You might be interested in this:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/threads/more-proof-that-the-media-is-leftwing.496306/

Well you know that in america 6 majr multinational corprations preside over 90% of what ameicans digest media wise, right? You now that right?


Now, Fenton.....you don't really want to promote the idea that the industry is not wayyyyyy over on the Left.....
....do you?

Because, Fenton....that would suggest that you are a moron.

Perhaps you should question corporate power then.



"Perhaps you should question corporate power then."

Perhaps you should question your mental faculties.

Here is an exposure of leftist journalists using the term ‘racists’ to cow their political opponents. Enlightening.


  1. "After someone torpedoed Dave Weigel’s Washington Post gig by breaking the code of silence on the Journolist listserv, the race has been on to see who would sell the entire contents of the e-mail messages between the liberal members of the group — and who would get to buy them. We may never know who sold it, but Tucker Carlson and the Daily Caller wound up with the data,…
  2. Daily Caller reporter Jonathan Strong lays out a strategy plotted by Journolist members to kill the Jeremiah Wright story during the 2008 primaries — and to smear Barack Obama’s critics as racists:
  3. …videos surfaced of Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, angrily denouncing whites, the U.S. government and America itself. Obama had once bragged of his closeness to Wright….in mid-April, 2008, at an ABC News debate moderated by Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos. Gibson asked Obama why it had taken him so long – nearly a year since Wright’s remarks became public – to dissociate himself from them.
  4. Watching this all at home were members of Journolist, a listserv comprised of several hundred liberal journalists, as well as like-minded professors and activists. The tough questioning from the ABC anchors left many of them outraged.
  5. …at several points during the 2008 presidential campaign a group of liberal journalists took radical steps to protect their favored candidate. Employees of news organizations including Time, Politico, the Huffington Post, the Baltimore Sun, the Guardian, Salon and the New Republic participated in outpourings of anger over how Obama had been treated in the media, and in some cases plotted to fix the damage.
  6. Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his colleagues to deflect attention from Obama’s relationship with Wright by changing the subject. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”
  7. Journolist members collaborated on an open letter criticizing ABC’s Charlie Gibson for asking questions about Wright during ABC’s presidential debate between Obama and Hillary Clinton….a campaign by professional journalists to tell ABC not to ask tough questions about a candidate’s links to radicals…
  8. Ackerman appealed to the other members of the Journolist group: “If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they’ve put upon us. Instead, take one of them — Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists. Ask: why do they have such a deep-seated problem with a black politician who unites the country? What lurks behind those problems? This makes *them* sputter with rage, which in turn leads to overreaction and self-destruction.”
  9. It certainly puts efforts by the Left to paint the Tea Party as racist in an entirely new light. It also calls into question the ethics and judgment of anyone who participated in that Ackerman thread."
Daily Caller discovers Journolist plot to spike Wright story, smear conservatives as racists - Hot Air

Stalinist Russia had a more legitimate press than the MSM in this nation is.

You can thank Bill Clinton for deregulating the FCC and turning the airways over to 6 major multinational corporations who now preside over 90% of what americans see and hear. You like corporate power, no? Not now?
 
Who says? No one who isn't an idiot in a liberal nation established by liberal men for liberty.


And, entering....stage Left.....we have the proof of the thread title.
Do you deny that Liberty comes from liberalism?

I'd be curious if you know of another source?

Maybe you can paste some John Stuart Mill for us?


Seems useless to try to educate you...but, I am the eternal optimist.

The 'Greatest Lie"is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country,convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.'And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed....i.e., you..... attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.
So, liberty does come from liberals and liberalism. I guess you no longer care for that?

/thread.



I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt....that you might have more ability than things living at the bottom of a swamp...
..but...alas.....it is not the case.


So simple that even you should understand it: these are values of classical liberals, e.g., conservatives:
individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


The very antithesis (better look that up) of communists, socialists, Liberals, Fascists, Nazis and Progressives.

 
Well you know that in america 6 majr multinational corprations preside over 90% of what ameicans digest media wise, right? You now that right?


Now, Fenton.....you don't really want to promote the idea that the industry is not wayyyyyy over on the Left.....
....do you?

Because, Fenton....that would suggest that you are a moron.

Perhaps you should question corporate power then.



"Perhaps you should question corporate power then."

Perhaps you should question your mental faculties.

Here is an exposure of leftist journalists using the term ‘racists’ to cow their political opponents. Enlightening.


  1. "After someone torpedoed Dave Weigel’s Washington Post gig by breaking the code of silence on the Journolist listserv, the race has been on to see who would sell the entire contents of the e-mail messages between the liberal members of the group — and who would get to buy them. We may never know who sold it, but Tucker Carlson and the Daily Caller wound up with the data,…
  2. Daily Caller reporter Jonathan Strong lays out a strategy plotted by Journolist members to kill the Jeremiah Wright story during the 2008 primaries — and to smear Barack Obama’s critics as racists:
  3. …videos surfaced of Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, angrily denouncing whites, the U.S. government and America itself. Obama had once bragged of his closeness to Wright….in mid-April, 2008, at an ABC News debate moderated by Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos. Gibson asked Obama why it had taken him so long – nearly a year since Wright’s remarks became public – to dissociate himself from them.
  4. Watching this all at home were members of Journolist, a listserv comprised of several hundred liberal journalists, as well as like-minded professors and activists. The tough questioning from the ABC anchors left many of them outraged.
  5. …at several points during the 2008 presidential campaign a group of liberal journalists took radical steps to protect their favored candidate. Employees of news organizations including Time, Politico, the Huffington Post, the Baltimore Sun, the Guardian, Salon and the New Republic participated in outpourings of anger over how Obama had been treated in the media, and in some cases plotted to fix the damage.
  6. Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his colleagues to deflect attention from Obama’s relationship with Wright by changing the subject. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”
  7. Journolist members collaborated on an open letter criticizing ABC’s Charlie Gibson for asking questions about Wright during ABC’s presidential debate between Obama and Hillary Clinton….a campaign by professional journalists to tell ABC not to ask tough questions about a candidate’s links to radicals…
  8. Ackerman appealed to the other members of the Journolist group: “If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they’ve put upon us. Instead, take one of them — Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists. Ask: why do they have such a deep-seated problem with a black politician who unites the country? What lurks behind those problems? This makes *them* sputter with rage, which in turn leads to overreaction and self-destruction.”
  9. It certainly puts efforts by the Left to paint the Tea Party as racist in an entirely new light. It also calls into question the ethics and judgment of anyone who participated in that Ackerman thread."
Daily Caller discovers Journolist plot to spike Wright story, smear conservatives as racists - Hot Air

Stalinist Russia had a more legitimate press than the MSM in this nation is.

You can thank Bill Clinton for deregulating the FCC and turning the airways over to 6 major multinational corporations who now preside over 90% of what americans see and hear. You like corporate power, no? Not now?
Why not blame Reagan, who actually did that?
 
Well you know that in america 6 majr multinational corprations preside over 90% of what ameicans digest media wise, right? You now that right?


Now, Fenton.....you don't really want to promote the idea that the industry is not wayyyyyy over on the Left.....
....do you?

Because, Fenton....that would suggest that you are a moron.

Perhaps you should question corporate power then.



"Perhaps you should question corporate power then."

Perhaps you should question your mental faculties.

Here is an exposure of leftist journalists using the term ‘racists’ to cow their political opponents. Enlightening.


  1. "After someone torpedoed Dave Weigel’s Washington Post gig by breaking the code of silence on the Journolist listserv, the race has been on to see who would sell the entire contents of the e-mail messages between the liberal members of the group — and who would get to buy them. We may never know who sold it, but Tucker Carlson and the Daily Caller wound up with the data,…
  2. Daily Caller reporter Jonathan Strong lays out a strategy plotted by Journolist members to kill the Jeremiah Wright story during the 2008 primaries — and to smear Barack Obama’s critics as racists:
  3. …videos surfaced of Obama’s pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, angrily denouncing whites, the U.S. government and America itself. Obama had once bragged of his closeness to Wright….in mid-April, 2008, at an ABC News debate moderated by Charlie Gibson and George Stephanopoulos. Gibson asked Obama why it had taken him so long – nearly a year since Wright’s remarks became public – to dissociate himself from them.
  4. Watching this all at home were members of Journolist, a listserv comprised of several hundred liberal journalists, as well as like-minded professors and activists. The tough questioning from the ABC anchors left many of them outraged.
  5. …at several points during the 2008 presidential campaign a group of liberal journalists took radical steps to protect their favored candidate. Employees of news organizations including Time, Politico, the Huffington Post, the Baltimore Sun, the Guardian, Salon and the New Republic participated in outpourings of anger over how Obama had been treated in the media, and in some cases plotted to fix the damage.
  6. Spencer Ackerman of the Washington Independent urged his colleagues to deflect attention from Obama’s relationship with Wright by changing the subject. Pick one of Obama’s conservative critics, Ackerman wrote, “Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists.”
  7. Journolist members collaborated on an open letter criticizing ABC’s Charlie Gibson for asking questions about Wright during ABC’s presidential debate between Obama and Hillary Clinton….a campaign by professional journalists to tell ABC not to ask tough questions about a candidate’s links to radicals…
  8. Ackerman appealed to the other members of the Journolist group: “If the right forces us all to either defend Wright or tear him down, no matter what we choose, we lose the game they’ve put upon us. Instead, take one of them — Fred Barnes, Karl Rove, who cares — and call them racists. Ask: why do they have such a deep-seated problem with a black politician who unites the country? What lurks behind those problems? This makes *them* sputter with rage, which in turn leads to overreaction and self-destruction.”
  9. It certainly puts efforts by the Left to paint the Tea Party as racist in an entirely new light. It also calls into question the ethics and judgment of anyone who participated in that Ackerman thread."
Daily Caller discovers Journolist plot to spike Wright story, smear conservatives as racists - Hot Air

Stalinist Russia had a more legitimate press than the MSM in this nation is.

You can thank Bill Clinton for deregulating the FCC and turning the airways over to 6 major multinational corporations who now preside over 90% of what americans see and hear. You like corporate power, no? Not now?


Wanna change the subject?

That means I win, huh?



. Time for you to accrue those bonus miles on your trip back to the last seat in the dumb row.
 
Who says? No one who isn't an idiot in a liberal nation established by liberal men for liberty.


And, entering....stage Left.....we have the proof of the thread title.
Do you deny that Liberty comes from liberalism?

I'd be curious if you know of another source?

Maybe you can paste some John Stuart Mill for us?


Seems useless to try to educate you...but, I am the eternal optimist.

The 'Greatest Lie"is the one that the modern Liberals tell. They claim that those called Liberals today are the liberals who founded this great nation. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Founders were 'classical liberals,' whose vision included . individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government. That's why they wrote out a detailed Constitution.

a. Communist John Dewey, the one who corrupted education in this country,convinced the Socialist Party to change its name to 'Liberal.'And it's values and doctrines formed those called Liberals today.


The benefit to them, of course, is that the uninformed....i.e., you..... attribute the greatness of the Founders, of America, to them.
So, liberty does come from liberals and liberalism. I guess you no longer care for that?

/thread.



I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt....that you might have more ability than things living at the bottom of a swamp...
..but...alas.....it is not the case.


So simple that even you should understand it: these are values of classical liberals, e.g., conservatives:
individualism, free markets, and limited constitutional government.


The very antithesis (better look that up) of communists, socialists, Liberals, Fascists, Nazis and Progressives.
He's mental, according to the idiot OP.

John Stuart Mill - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Controlling people's lives, issuing edicts, controlling their actions - and compliance by threats and force...The need to control and rule others.. Hitler, among others, had that same 'mental disorder'.
 
Conyrolling people's lives, issuing edicts, controlling their actions - and comoliance by threats a d force...The need to control and rule others.. Hitler, among others, had that same 'mental disorder'.
Hitler was a fascist, not a liberal.
 

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