Who Are The Palestinians?

[Phoenall]

People from Europe went to Palestine, a place on another continent, to dispossess the people living in Palestine of their land and replace them as the inhabitants of Palestine, creating a state of their own religion. How is that any different from European settlers colonizing other places?

LIAR as the Grand mufti proves on Oath



MUFTI: In one case they sold about 400,000 dunams in one lot.

SIR L. HAMMOND: Who? An Arab?

MUFTI: Sarsuk. An Arab of Beyrouth.

SIR L. HAMMOND: His Eminence gave us a picture of the Arabs being evicted from their land and villages being wiped out. What I want to know is, did the Government of Palestine, the Administration, acquire the land and then hand it over to the Jews?

MUFTI: In most cases the lands were acquired.

SIR L. HAMMOND: I mean forcibly acquired-compulsory acquisition as land would be acquired for public purposes?

MUFTI: No, it wasn’t.

SIR L. HAMMOND: Not taken by compulsory acquisition?


MUFTI: No.

 

[Phoenall]

But it wasn't a 100 years war was it, but a 1400 years war started by a mentally deranged psychopath who told the muslims that god had given them the world

In less than ten years three serious attacks have been made by Arabs on Jews. Fore eighty years before the first of these attacks there is no recorded instance of any similar incidents.

A AC.14 8 of 2 October 1947

Apart from the attacks in Hebron 1929, the civil war of 1930. Then the next civil war of 1933 followed by a scattering of smaller attacks up until 1947 when the arab league declared war and invaded to attack and wipe out the Jews. Do you want the rest of the attacks by arab muslims on the Jews. Or are you going to do an Ostrich and bury your head in the sand

Indeed, those were the attacks that they were talking about that happened after the Zionist invasion.

.
First off, their was no 'Zionist Invasion' That's a Palestinian propaganda myth that you love to pimp.
Second, what does it matter when the attacks took place ? Arabs massacred Jews several times before any Arab was killed
Finally, the Jews killed in the Hebron massacre were native Jews.

"The Jews killed in the Hebron massacre were native Jews."

The Arab Jews were not targeted, the European colonists were the targets.

"Soon after news of the first victim had spread, forty people assembled in the house of Eliezer Dan Slonim. Slonim, the son of the Rabbi of Hebron, was a member on the city council and a director of the Anglo-Palestine Bank. He had excellent relations with the British and the Arabs and those seeking refuge with him were confident they would come to no harm. When the mob approached his door, they offered to spare the Sephardi community if he would hand over all the Ashkenazi yeshiva students. He refused, saying "we are all one people," whereupon he was shot dead along with his wife and 4-year-old son.[34] From the contemporary Hebrew press it appears that the rioters targeted the Zionist community for their massacre. Four-fifths of the victims were Ashkenazi Jews, "

1929 Hebron massacre - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

They were still Jews as proven by the DNA links to Sephardic Jews. Would it matter if there were only gazan arab muslims getting killed and not west bank arab muslims ?

 

[Phoenall]

WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS? This article was written in 2007. Some things never change much over time. Palestinians will be Palestinians.

The Radical Evil Of The Palestinian Arab Population by Ben Shapiro on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

Last week, the extremists, led by Holocaust denier and Fatah strongman Mahmoud Abbas, were ousted in a bloody coup by the radical extremists, Islamist terrorist group Hamas.​

A lie in the first paragraph.

Why should I read farther?

Where is the LIE and show how it is a LIE

 

[montelatici]

They were colonists from Europe whether they were Jews, Christians or Hindus. The local Palestinians were not targeting local Arab Jews who were not considered colonists.

 

[MJB12741]

They were colonists from Europe whether they were Jews, Christians or Hindus. The local Palestinians were not targeting local Arab Jews who were not considered colonists.

Oh now I get it. You mean like at the Hebron massacre of 1929.

 

[P F Tinmore]

WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS? This article was written in 2007. Some things never change much over time. Palestinians will be Palestinians.

The Radical Evil Of The Palestinian Arab Population by Ben Shapiro on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

Last week, the extremists, led by Holocaust denier and Fatah strongman Mahmoud Abbas, were ousted in a bloody coup by the radical extremists, Islamist terrorist group Hamas.​

A lie in the first paragraph.

Why should I read farther?

Where is the LIE and show how it is a LIE

The bloody coup is a lie.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm not even sure you guys know want a "lie" is, let alone the concepts that distinguish a coup d'état (an illegal seizure of power) from a armed internal conflict / civil war or traitors takeover.

The bloody coup is a lie.

(PERSPECTIVE)

Hamas has pledged a takeover of Judea-Samaria Saturday, after one of its leaders declared "the liberation of all Palestine" - including the Palestinian Authority (PA) - a strategic area of utmost importance in implementing long-term objectives of the terror group. (Publish: 3/21/2015)

JERUSALEM, June 12 2007 -- Gunmen loyal to the two main Palestinian parties fought street battles in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday that increasingly bore the hallmarks of civil war, as Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, a Fatah leader, warned that the rival Hamas movement was attempting a coup.

(COMMENT)

This is all a matter of perspective and the interpretation. "Lying" doesn't enter into it.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[toastman]

They were colonists from Europe whether they were Jews, Christians or Hindus. The local Palestinians were not targeting local Arab Jews who were not considered colonists.

They were immigrants, not colonists

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm not even sure you guys know want a "lie" is, let alone the concepts that distinguish a coup d'état (an illegal seizure of power) from a armed internal conflict / civil war or traitors takeover.

The bloody coup is a lie.

(PERSPECTIVE)

Hamas has pledged a takeover of Judea-Samaria Saturday, after one of its leaders declared "the liberation of all Palestine" - including the Palestinian Authority (PA) - a strategic area of utmost importance in implementing long-term objectives of the terror group. (Publish: 3/21/2015)

JERUSALEM, June 12 2007 -- Gunmen loyal to the two main Palestinian parties fought street battles in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday that increasingly bore the hallmarks of civil war, as Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, a Fatah leader, warned that the rival Hamas movement was attempting a coup.

(COMMENT)

This is all a matter of perspective and the interpretation. "Lying" doesn't enter into it.

Most Respectfully,
R

All well and good, Rocco, but look at the facts. After the supposed coup:

The President was still the President.
The Prime Minister was still the Prime Minister.
None of the cabinet members were changed.
No members of parliament were changed.
The judiciary remained the same.
No laws were changed.
The constitution remained in force.

So, what bloody coup are the liars talking about?

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, --- it is important to not try and exaggerate.

P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm not even sure you guys know want a "lie" is, let alone the concepts that distinguish a coup d'état (an illegal seizure of power) from a armed internal conflict / civil war or traitors takeover.

The bloody coup is a lie.

(PERSPECTIVE)

Hamas has pledged a takeover of Judea-Samaria Saturday, after one of its leaders declared "the liberation of all Palestine" - including the Palestinian Authority (PA) - a strategic area of utmost importance in implementing long-term objectives of the terror group. (Publish: 3/21/2015)

JERUSALEM, June 12 2007 -- Gunmen loyal to the two main Palestinian parties fought street battles in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday that increasingly bore the hallmarks of civil war, as Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, a Fatah leader, warned that the rival Hamas movement was attempting a coup.

(COMMENT)

This is all a matter of perspective and the interpretation. "Lying" doesn't enter into it.

Most Respectfully,
R

All well and good, Rocco, but look at the facts. After the supposed coup:

The President was still the President.
The Prime Minister was still the Prime Minister.
None of the cabinet members were changed.
No members of parliament were changed.
The judiciary remained the same.
No laws were changed.
The constitution remained in force.

So, what bloody coup are the liars talking about?

(COMMENT)

IT's all relative. It's a matter of perspective.

The question is:

• What is the legitimate government?
• What is the relationship between the HAMAS and Fatah?
• Is there a discrepancy between who is in-charge and who should be in-charge?

I remember, some time ago, you explained to me that HAMAS was the legitimate government, having won the election.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, --- it is important to not try and exaggerate.

P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm not even sure you guys know want a "lie" is, let alone the concepts that distinguish a coup d'état (an illegal seizure of power) from a armed internal conflict / civil war or traitors takeover.

The bloody coup is a lie.

(PERSPECTIVE)

Hamas has pledged a takeover of Judea-Samaria Saturday, after one of its leaders declared "the liberation of all Palestine" - including the Palestinian Authority (PA) - a strategic area of utmost importance in implementing long-term objectives of the terror group. (Publish: 3/21/2015)

JERUSALEM, June 12 2007 -- Gunmen loyal to the two main Palestinian parties fought street battles in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday that increasingly bore the hallmarks of civil war, as Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, a Fatah leader, warned that the rival Hamas movement was attempting a coup.

(COMMENT)

This is all a matter of perspective and the interpretation. "Lying" doesn't enter into it.

Most Respectfully,
R

All well and good, Rocco, but look at the facts. After the supposed coup:

The President was still the President.
The Prime Minister was still the Prime Minister.
None of the cabinet members were changed.
No members of parliament were changed.
The judiciary remained the same.
No laws were changed.
The constitution remained in force.

So, what bloody coup are the liars talking about?

(COMMENT)

IT's all relative. It's a matter of perspective.

The question is:

• What is the legitimate government?
• What is the relationship between the HAMAS and Fatah?
• Is there a discrepancy between who is in-charge and who should be in-charge?

I remember, some time ago, you explained to me that HAMAS was the legitimate government, having won the election.

Most Respectfully,
R

Answers:

The last legitimate government in Palestine was the unity government of 2007.

Fatah lost the elections.

There is.

Respectively.

 

[RoccoR]

P F Tinmore, et al,

What are the salient points?

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, --- it is important to not try and exaggerate.

P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm not even sure you guys know want a "lie" is, let alone the concepts that distinguish a coup d'état (an illegal seizure of power) from a armed internal conflict / civil war or traitors takeover.

The bloody coup is a lie.

(PERSPECTIVE)

Hamas has pledged a takeover of Judea-Samaria Saturday, after one of its leaders declared "the liberation of all Palestine" - including the Palestinian Authority (PA) - a strategic area of utmost importance in implementing long-term objectives of the terror group. (Publish: 3/21/2015)

JERUSALEM, June 12 2007 -- Gunmen loyal to the two main Palestinian parties fought street battles in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday that increasingly bore the hallmarks of civil war, as Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, a Fatah leader, warned that the rival Hamas movement was attempting a coup.

(COMMENT)

This is all a matter of perspective and the interpretation. "Lying" doesn't enter into it.

Most Respectfully,
R

All well and good, Rocco, but look at the facts. After the supposed coup:

The President was still the President.
The Prime Minister was still the Prime Minister.
None of the cabinet members were changed.
No members of parliament were changed.
The judiciary remained the same.
No laws were changed.
The constitution remained in force.

So, what bloody coup are the liars talking about?

(COMMENT)

IT's all relative. It's a matter of perspective.

The question is:

• What is the legitimate government?
• What is the relationship between the HAMAS and Fatah?
• Is there a discrepancy between who is in-charge and who should be in-charge?

I remember, some time ago, you explained to me that HAMAS was the legitimate government, having won the election.

Most Respectfully,
R

Answers:

The last legitimate government in Palestine was the unity government of 2007.

Fatah lost the elections.

There is.

Respectively.

(COMMENT)

And there we are:

In your perspective and from your vantage point, Fatah lost the ('07) elections.

A coup d'état does not require the use of force to be a coup. It can be a sudden and decisive action resulting in an illegal change in government. If the properly elected government cannot assume its responsibilities and is set aside by a losing political entity, then that is an illegal change in government.

Based on figures provided by hospitals and emergency services on 15 June, the ICRC estimates that over 550 people have been wounded and at least 116 killed in the fighting of the previous week. Gaza-Westbank – ICRC Bulletin No. 22 / 2007

For most analyst, 550 killed in a Fatah HAMAS clash is not considered "bloody."

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[toastman]

P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm not even sure you guys know want a "lie" is, let alone the concepts that distinguish a coup d'état (an illegal seizure of power) from a armed internal conflict / civil war or traitors takeover.

The bloody coup is a lie.

(PERSPECTIVE)

Hamas has pledged a takeover of Judea-Samaria Saturday, after one of its leaders declared "the liberation of all Palestine" - including the Palestinian Authority (PA) - a strategic area of utmost importance in implementing long-term objectives of the terror group. (Publish: 3/21/2015)

JERUSALEM, June 12 2007 -- Gunmen loyal to the two main Palestinian parties fought street battles in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday that increasingly bore the hallmarks of civil war, as Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, a Fatah leader, warned that the rival Hamas movement was attempting a coup.

(COMMENT)

This is all a matter of perspective and the interpretation. "Lying" doesn't enter into it.

Most Respectfully,
R

All well and good, Rocco, but look at the facts. After the supposed coup:

The President was still the President.
The Prime Minister was still the Prime Minister.
None of the cabinet members were changed.
No members of parliament were changed.
The judiciary remained the same.
No laws were changed.
The constitution remained in force.

So, what bloody coup are the liars talking about?

The one you refuse to believe

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, --- it is important to not try and exaggerate.

P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm not even sure you guys know want a "lie" is, let alone the concepts that distinguish a coup d'état (an illegal seizure of power) from a armed internal conflict / civil war or traitors takeover.

The bloody coup is a lie.

(PERSPECTIVE)

Hamas has pledged a takeover of Judea-Samaria Saturday, after one of its leaders declared "the liberation of all Palestine" - including the Palestinian Authority (PA) - a strategic area of utmost importance in implementing long-term objectives of the terror group. (Publish: 3/21/2015)

JERUSALEM, June 12 2007 -- Gunmen loyal to the two main Palestinian parties fought street battles in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday that increasingly bore the hallmarks of civil war, as Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, a Fatah leader, warned that the rival Hamas movement was attempting a coup.

(COMMENT)

This is all a matter of perspective and the interpretation. "Lying" doesn't enter into it.

Most Respectfully,
R

All well and good, Rocco, but look at the facts. After the supposed coup:

The President was still the President.
The Prime Minister was still the Prime Minister.
None of the cabinet members were changed.
No members of parliament were changed.
The judiciary remained the same.
No laws were changed.
The constitution remained in force.

So, what bloody coup are the liars talking about?

(COMMENT)

IT's all relative. It's a matter of perspective.

The question is:

• What is the legitimate government?
• What is the relationship between the HAMAS and Fatah?
• Is there a discrepancy between who is in-charge and who should be in-charge?

I remember, some time ago, you explained to me that HAMAS was the legitimate government, having won the election.

Most Respectfully,
R

Answers:

The last legitimate government in Palestine was the unity government of 2007.

Fatah lost the elections.

There is.

Respectively.

Battle of Gaza 2007 - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

As a result of the battle, Hamas got complete control of Gaza

 

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

What are the salient points?

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, --- it is important to not try and exaggerate.

P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm not even sure you guys know want a "lie" is, let alone the concepts that distinguish a coup d'état (an illegal seizure of power) from a armed internal conflict / civil war or traitors takeover.

The bloody coup is a lie.

(PERSPECTIVE)

Hamas has pledged a takeover of Judea-Samaria Saturday, after one of its leaders declared "the liberation of all Palestine" - including the Palestinian Authority (PA) - a strategic area of utmost importance in implementing long-term objectives of the terror group. (Publish: 3/21/2015)

JERUSALEM, June 12 2007 -- Gunmen loyal to the two main Palestinian parties fought street battles in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday that increasingly bore the hallmarks of civil war, as Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, a Fatah leader, warned that the rival Hamas movement was attempting a coup.

(COMMENT)

This is all a matter of perspective and the interpretation. "Lying" doesn't enter into it.

Most Respectfully,
R

All well and good, Rocco, but look at the facts. After the supposed coup:

The President was still the President.
The Prime Minister was still the Prime Minister.
None of the cabinet members were changed.
No members of parliament were changed.
The judiciary remained the same.
No laws were changed.
The constitution remained in force.

So, what bloody coup are the liars talking about?

(COMMENT)

IT's all relative. It's a matter of perspective.

The question is:

• What is the legitimate government?
• What is the relationship between the HAMAS and Fatah?
• Is there a discrepancy between who is in-charge and who should be in-charge?

I remember, some time ago, you explained to me that HAMAS was the legitimate government, having won the election.

Most Respectfully,
R

Answers:

The last legitimate government in Palestine was the unity government of 2007.

Fatah lost the elections.

There is.

Respectively.

(COMMENT)

And there we are:

In your perspective and from your vantage point, Fatah lost the ('07) elections.

A coup d'état does not require the use of force to be a coup. It can be a sudden and decisive action resulting in an illegal change in government. If the properly elected government cannot assume its responsibilities and is set aside by a losing political entity, then that is an illegal change in government.

Based on figures provided by hospitals and emergency services on 15 June, the ICRC estimates that over 550 people have been wounded and at least 116 killed in the fighting of the previous week. Gaza-Westbank – ICRC Bulletin No. 22 / 2007

For most analyst, 550 killed in a Fatah HAMAS clash is not considered "bloody."

Most Respectfully,
R

We need a little history. In February of 2007 Fatah and Hamas met in Mecca and agreed to form a unity government. Abbas appointed Heniya to be prime minister and he selected his cabinet. The PLC (parliament) rendered their approval, as required by their constitution, and Abbas swore in the new unity government in March, 2007. The headquarters for this government was in Gaza.

The US did not like this government so it armed, paid, and trained Fatah security forces, under Abbas, to overthrow the Unity Government and put Fatah in power. Hamas ran these forces out of Gaza in June of 2007 leaving the legally elected and constituted government in place.

 

[Phoenall]

They were colonists from Europe whether they were Jews, Christians or Hindus. The local Palestinians were not targeting local Arab Jews who were not considered colonists.

So why did they kill so many of them over the years then Abdul. Or are you going to ignore the truth again.

The Grand mufti told the arab muslims to attack and mass murder the Jews on a BLOOD LIBEL, he did not tell them to single out any particular group. The British should have razed the arab quarter of Jerusalem and evicted the muslims straighjt away

 

[Phoenall]

WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS? This article was written in 2007. Some things never change much over time. Palestinians will be Palestinians.

The Radical Evil Of The Palestinian Arab Population by Ben Shapiro on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent

Last week, the extremists, led by Holocaust denier and Fatah strongman Mahmoud Abbas, were ousted in a bloody coup by the radical extremists, Islamist terrorist group Hamas.​

A lie in the first paragraph.

Why should I read farther?

Where is the LIE and show how it is a LIE

The bloody coup is a lie.

Only according to you, but then you do defend fatah terrorists don't you

 

[Mindful]

The Arab media usually takes an extremely negative stance towards Israel, but regarding Israel’s treatment of its Palestinian workers, there is only praise.

The Palestinian Authority (PA)-controlled media is notorious for its publishing of incitement and lies against Israel, but there is always an exception to every rule. An article recently published by the PA official daily Al-Hayat Al-Jadida lauds Israel and Israeli employers of Palestinians for their positive employment ethics towards their workers, Palestinian Media Watch (PMW) reports.

Arab Media Praises Israel s Treatment of Palestinian Workers United with Israel

 

[MJB12741]

P F Tinmore, et al,

What are the salient points?

P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, --- it is important to not try and exaggerate.

P F Tinmore, et al,

I'm not even sure you guys know want a "lie" is, let alone the concepts that distinguish a coup d'état (an illegal seizure of power) from a armed internal conflict / civil war or traitors takeover.

(PERSPECTIVE)

Hamas has pledged a takeover of Judea-Samaria Saturday, after one of its leaders declared "the liberation of all Palestine" - including the Palestinian Authority (PA) - a strategic area of utmost importance in implementing long-term objectives of the terror group. (Publish: 3/21/2015)

JERUSALEM, June 12 2007 -- Gunmen loyal to the two main Palestinian parties fought street battles in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday that increasingly bore the hallmarks of civil war, as Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas, a Fatah leader, warned that the rival Hamas movement was attempting a coup.

(COMMENT)

This is all a matter of perspective and the interpretation. "Lying" doesn't enter into it.

Most Respectfully,
R

All well and good, Rocco, but look at the facts. After the supposed coup:

The President was still the President.
The Prime Minister was still the Prime Minister.
None of the cabinet members were changed.
No members of parliament were changed.
The judiciary remained the same.
No laws were changed.
The constitution remained in force.

So, what bloody coup are the liars talking about?

(COMMENT)

IT's all relative. It's a matter of perspective.

The question is:

• What is the legitimate government?
• What is the relationship between the HAMAS and Fatah?
• Is there a discrepancy between who is in-charge and who should be in-charge?

I remember, some time ago, you explained to me that HAMAS was the legitimate government, having won the election.

Most Respectfully,
R

Answers:

The last legitimate government in Palestine was the unity government of 2007.

Fatah lost the elections.

There is.

Respectively.

(COMMENT)

And there we are:

In your perspective and from your vantage point, Fatah lost the ('07) elections.

A coup d'état does not require the use of force to be a coup. It can be a sudden and decisive action resulting in an illegal change in government. If the properly elected government cannot assume its responsibilities and is set aside by a losing political entity, then that is an illegal change in government.

Based on figures provided by hospitals and emergency services on 15 June, the ICRC estimates that over 550 people have been wounded and at least 116 killed in the fighting of the previous week. Gaza-Westbank – ICRC Bulletin No. 22 / 2007

For most analyst, 550 killed in a Fatah HAMAS clash is not considered "bloody."

Most Respectfully,
R

We need a little history. In February of 2007 Fatah and Hamas met in Mecca and agreed to form a unity government. Abbas appointed Heniya to be prime minister and he selected his cabinet. The PLC (parliament) rendered their approval, as required by their constitution, and Abbas swore in the new unity government in March, 2007. The headquarters for this government was in Gaza.

The US did not like this government so it armed, paid, and trained Fatah security forces, under Abbas, to overthrow the Unity Government and put Fatah in power. Hamas ran these forces out of Gaza in June of 2007 leaving the legally elected and constituted government in place.

I certainly love & support Hamas over Fatah. Hamas gets Palestinians killed. The funny part is that Tinmore also supports Hamas over Fatah. LONG LIVE HAMAS!

Gazans Speak Out Hamas War Crimes

 

[montelatici]

They were colonists from Europe whether they were Jews, Christians or Hindus. The local Palestinians were not targeting local Arab Jews who were not considered colonists.

So why did they kill so many of them over the years then Abdul. Or are you going to ignore the truth again.

The Grand mufti told the arab muslims to attack and mass murder the Jews on a BLOOD LIBEL, he did not tell them to single out any particular group. The British should have razed the arab quarter of Jerusalem and evicted the muslims straighjt away

All colonized people have killed the colonizer as the colonizer has killed the colonized. Why do you believe the Palestinians should behave any differently than other colonized people?

 

[Mindful]

They were colonists from Europe whether they were Jews, Christians or Hindus. The local Palestinians were not targeting local Arab Jews who were not considered colonists.

So why did they kill so many of them over the years then Abdul. Or are you going to ignore the truth again.

The Grand mufti told the arab muslims to attack and mass murder the Jews on a BLOOD LIBEL, he did not tell them to single out any particular group. The British should have razed the arab quarter of Jerusalem and evicted the muslims straighjt away

All colonized people have killed the colonizer as the colonizer has killed the colonized. Why do you believe the Palestinians should behave any differently than other colonized people?

Just one thing. You are arguing a false premise. They are not being colonised.