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Stupid did not win the day.​

Are you kidding? Starting a hundred year (and counting) war when the solution was at their fingertips was not stupid? It was the epitome of stupid.

And Britain still wants to continue the war.

The Arab Palestinians were not cooperating...​

Indeed, and they are still rejecting the Zionist's colonial project. Perhaps the Zionists should have picked a more docile people to colonize.





But it wasn't a 100 years war was it, but a 1400 years war started by a mentally deranged psychopath who told the muslims that god had given them the world

Even if we agree with the silly notion that the war for Palestine started 1400 years ago, what does it have to do with Jews. The people in Palestine were Roman citizens and Christians at the time, there weren't any Jews, the Romans made sure of it.





And you have proven this how, as no evidence exists that says the Jews died out in Palestine under Roman rule.

What a LYING POS ISLAMONAZI PROPAGANDIST you are Abdul


By the way where did the Jews come from 1400 years ago that were massacred by Mohamed. Take a look at the hadiths for their numbers and explain them ?

They certainly were not in Palestine. Maybe in Mecca or Medina. Not part of the Roman Empire.

Palestine was a Roman province. The Roman state religion had been Christianity for centuries at the time. The Jews were purged from Palestine much earlier by the Romans who at the time worshipped Roman Gods.




Then produce the evidence from a non partisan source that state the Jews were wiped out in Palestine by the Romans, and that would be Roman Palestine and not the Palestine that exists today.


ONCE AGAIN YOU SHOW YOU ARE A LYING POS ISLAMONAZI RACIST

Is the Jewish Virtual Library a "LYING POS ISLAMONAZI RACIST" publication? It would seem so, according to you. LOL

" In 73 AD, the last of the revolutionaries were holed up in a mountain fort called Masada; the Romans had besieged the fort for two years, and the 1,000 men, women, and children inside were beginning to starve. In desperation, the Jewish revolutionaries killed themselves rather than surrender to the Romans. The Romans then destroyed Jerusalem, annexed Judaea as a Roman province, and systematically drove the Jews from Palestine. After 73 AD, Hebrew history would only be the history of the Diaspora as the Jews and their world view spread over Africa, Asia, and Europe."

The Diaspora Jewish Virtual Library
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

Hummm --- in a way, your analysis is partially correct. They did know what the scope and nature of both the cause and the resulting problem was.

From your link:

(i) They were the same underlying causes as those which brought about the “disturbances” of 1920, 1921, 1929 and 1933.​

So they knew what the problem was for 15 years and the assholes did nothing about it. And this report was in 1947 and they were still sitting around saying "duh, what do we do?"

Stupid won the day and there has been war ever since.
(COMMENT)

There are two things here that should be said.
  • There was never a way to calculate the persistence of the Arab Palestinian resistance. No one ever thought that the Palestinians would give-up on nation building and national aspirations and opt instead to go into a continuous losing War mode.
  • While the regional adjacent Arab States have pretty much decided not to pursue hostilities, it is the Hostile Palestinian that has lost all national aspirations.
Just as none of the major powers will interfere in the annexation by the Russian Federation of the internationally recognized Ukrainian territory of Crimea (10,425 sq mi)(about the size of Massachusetts); March 2014 --- It is just as likely that, as long as Israel can contain the Hostile Arab Palestinian, none of the Regional Powers will go to war again over the West Bank and Gaza Strip (2,317 sq mi)(about the size of the Everglades).

Stupid did not win the day. The Arab Palestinians were not cooperating and were not entitled to sovereignty, having rejected a number of overtures from the Government of Palestine, the International Community moved on with the more cooperative --- the consequences are clear.

Most Respectfully,
R
Stupid did not win the day.​

Are you kidding? Starting a hundred year (and counting) war when the solution was at their fingertips was not stupid? It was the epitome of stupid.

And Britain still wants to continue the war.

The Arab Palestinians were not cooperating...​

Indeed, and they are still rejecting the Zionist's colonial project. Perhaps the Zionists should have picked a more docile people to colonize.





But it wasn't a 100 years war was it, but a 1400 years war started by a mentally deranged psychopath who told the muslims that god had given them the world
In less than ten years three serious attacks have been made by Arabs on Jews. Fore eighty years before the first of these attacks there is no recorded instance of any similar incidents.

A AC.14 8 of 2 October 1947



Apart from the attacks in Hebron 1929, the civil war of 1930. Then the next civil war of 1933 followed by a scattering of smaller attacks up until 1947 when the arab league declared war and invaded to attack and wipe out the Jews. Do you want the rest of the attacks by arab muslims on the Jews. Or are you going to do an Ostrich and bury your head in the sand

Why wouldn't colonized people attack the colonists? It happened in almost all European colonies.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

Hummm --- in a way, your analysis is partially correct. They did know what the scope and nature of both the cause and the resulting problem was.

From your link:

(i) They were the same underlying causes as those which brought about the “disturbances” of 1920, 1921, 1929 and 1933.​

So they knew what the problem was for 15 years and the assholes did nothing about it. And this report was in 1947 and they were still sitting around saying "duh, what do we do?"

Stupid won the day and there has been war ever since.
(COMMENT)

There are two things here that should be said.
  • There was never a way to calculate the persistence of the Arab Palestinian resistance. No one ever thought that the Palestinians would give-up on nation building and national aspirations and opt instead to go into a continuous losing War mode.
  • While the regional adjacent Arab States have pretty much decided not to pursue hostilities, it is the Hostile Palestinian that has lost all national aspirations.
Just as none of the major powers will interfere in the annexation by the Russian Federation of the internationally recognized Ukrainian territory of Crimea (10,425 sq mi)(about the size of Massachusetts); March 2014 --- It is just as likely that, as long as Israel can contain the Hostile Arab Palestinian, none of the Regional Powers will go to war again over the West Bank and Gaza Strip (2,317 sq mi)(about the size of the Everglades).

Stupid did not win the day. The Arab Palestinians were not cooperating and were not entitled to sovereignty, having rejected a number of overtures from the Government of Palestine, the International Community moved on with the more cooperative --- the consequences are clear.

Most Respectfully,
R
Stupid did not win the day.​

Are you kidding? Starting a hundred year (and counting) war when the solution was at their fingertips was not stupid? It was the epitome of stupid.

And Britain still wants to continue the war.

The Arab Palestinians were not cooperating...​

Indeed, and they are still rejecting the Zionist's colonial project. Perhaps the Zionists should have picked a more docile people to colonize.





But it wasn't a 100 years war was it, but a 1400 years war started by a mentally deranged psychopath who told the muslims that god had given them the world
In less than ten years three serious attacks have been made by Arabs on Jews. Fore eighty years before the first of these attacks there is no recorded instance of any similar incidents.

A AC.14 8 of 2 October 1947



Apart from the attacks in Hebron 1929, the civil war of 1930. Then the next civil war of 1933 followed by a scattering of smaller attacks up until 1947 when the arab league declared war and invaded to attack and wipe out the Jews. Do you want the rest of the attacks by arab muslims on the Jews. Or are you going to do an Ostrich and bury your head in the sand
Indeed, those were the attacks that they were talking about that happened after the Zionist invasion.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

Hummm --- in a way, your analysis is partially correct. They did know what the scope and nature of both the cause and the resulting problem was.

(COMMENT)

There are two things here that should be said.
  • There was never a way to calculate the persistence of the Arab Palestinian resistance. No one ever thought that the Palestinians would give-up on nation building and national aspirations and opt instead to go into a continuous losing War mode.
  • While the regional adjacent Arab States have pretty much decided not to pursue hostilities, it is the Hostile Palestinian that has lost all national aspirations.
Just as none of the major powers will interfere in the annexation by the Russian Federation of the internationally recognized Ukrainian territory of Crimea (10,425 sq mi)(about the size of Massachusetts); March 2014 --- It is just as likely that, as long as Israel can contain the Hostile Arab Palestinian, none of the Regional Powers will go to war again over the West Bank and Gaza Strip (2,317 sq mi)(about the size of the Everglades).

Stupid did not win the day. The Arab Palestinians were not cooperating and were not entitled to sovereignty, having rejected a number of overtures from the Government of Palestine, the International Community moved on with the more cooperative --- the consequences are clear.

Most Respectfully,
R
Stupid did not win the day.​

Are you kidding? Starting a hundred year (and counting) war when the solution was at their fingertips was not stupid? It was the epitome of stupid.

And Britain still wants to continue the war.

The Arab Palestinians were not cooperating...​

Indeed, and they are still rejecting the Zionist's colonial project. Perhaps the Zionists should have picked a more docile people to colonize.





But it wasn't a 100 years war was it, but a 1400 years war started by a mentally deranged psychopath who told the muslims that god had given them the world
In less than ten years three serious attacks have been made by Arabs on Jews. Fore eighty years before the first of these attacks there is no recorded instance of any similar incidents.

A AC.14 8 of 2 October 1947



Apart from the attacks in Hebron 1929, the civil war of 1930. Then the next civil war of 1933 followed by a scattering of smaller attacks up until 1947 when the arab league declared war and invaded to attack and wipe out the Jews. Do you want the rest of the attacks by arab muslims on the Jews. Or are you going to do an Ostrich and bury your head in the sand
Indeed, those were the attacks that they were talking about that happened after the Zionist invasion.
.
First off, their was no 'Zionist Invasion' That's a Palestinian propaganda myth that you love to pimp.
Second, what does it matter when the attacks took place ? Arabs massacred Jews several times before any Arab was killed
Finally, the Jews killed in the Hebron massacre were native Jews.
 
People from Europe went to Palestine, a place on another continent, to dispossess the people living in Palestine of their land and replace them as the inhabitants of Palestine, creating a state of their own religion. How is that any different from European settlers colonizing other places?
 
Stupid did not win the day.​

Are you kidding? Starting a hundred year (and counting) war when the solution was at their fingertips was not stupid? It was the epitome of stupid.

And Britain still wants to continue the war.

The Arab Palestinians were not cooperating...​

Indeed, and they are still rejecting the Zionist's colonial project. Perhaps the Zionists should have picked a more docile people to colonize.





But it wasn't a 100 years war was it, but a 1400 years war started by a mentally deranged psychopath who told the muslims that god had given them the world
In less than ten years three serious attacks have been made by Arabs on Jews. Fore eighty years before the first of these attacks there is no recorded instance of any similar incidents.

A AC.14 8 of 2 October 1947



Apart from the attacks in Hebron 1929, the civil war of 1930. Then the next civil war of 1933 followed by a scattering of smaller attacks up until 1947 when the arab league declared war and invaded to attack and wipe out the Jews. Do you want the rest of the attacks by arab muslims on the Jews. Or are you going to do an Ostrich and bury your head in the sand
Indeed, those were the attacks that they were talking about that happened after the Zionist invasion.
.
First off, their was no 'Zionist Invasion' That's a Palestinian propaganda myth that you love to pimp.
Second, what does it matter when the attacks took place ? Arabs massacred Jews several times before any Arab was killed
Finally, the Jews killed in the Hebron massacre were native Jews.


"The Jews killed in the Hebron massacre were native Jews."

The Arab Jews were not targeted, the European colonists were the targets.

"Soon after news of the first victim had spread, forty people assembled in the house of Eliezer Dan Slonim. Slonim, the son of the Rabbi of Hebron, was a member on the city council and a director of the Anglo-Palestine Bank. He had excellent relations with the British and the Arabs and those seeking refuge with him were confident they would come to no harm. When the mob approached his door, they offered to spare the Sephardi community if he would hand over all the Ashkenazi yeshiva students. He refused, saying "we are all one people," whereupon he was shot dead along with his wife and 4-year-old son.[34] From the contemporary Hebrew press it appears that the rioters targeted the Zionist community for their massacre. Four-fifths of the victims were Ashkenazi Jews, "

1929 Hebron massacre - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, may be...


P F Tinmore, et al,

It is not about the people (Arabs, Muslims, Islamic radicals) --- it was never about the people. It is about the culture and the preservation of ancient beliefs.

Stupid did not win the day.​

Are you kidding? Starting a hundred year (and counting) war when the solution was at their fingertips was not stupid? It was the epitome of stupid.

And Britain still wants to continue the war.

The Arab Palestinians were not cooperating...​

Indeed, and they are still rejecting the Zionist's colonial project. Perhaps the Zionists should have picked a more docile people to colonize.
(COMMENT)

Well, the war has lasted almost a century, if we start counting from the time of the Sykes-Picot Agreement (16 May 1916), and with Arab Revolt which began on (5 June 1916). Forces commanded by Sharif Hussein ibn Ali’s sons, the Emirs Ali and Feisal, attacked the Ottoman garrison at Medina. Certainly, if not by then --- then the Balfour Declaration was the start of the fire (2 November 1917).

But as Wars go, this was not of the magnitude or scope and nature that worried the Allied Powers or the UN. If the status quo can be maintained for another half century, most of the issues will have been resolved.

The solution was never at their finger tips. The objective was to create a Jewish National Home. There was never an objective to placate the Arab Palestinian. Those were ancillary compromises. The longer the Arab Palestinian waits to enter into good faith negotiations --- the more Area "C" will be developed by the Israelis. The Arab Palestinian is just another substandard culture left behind because they could not adapt, were too violent and unproductive.

Most Respectfully,
R
87. The members of the Peel Commission were led by their diagnosis of the situation in Palestine to the conclusion that the obligations imposed upon the Mandatory by the terms of the Mandate were mutually irreconcilable.​

That was the story for three decades.

People had been telling them for years that their stupid plan was not going to work. The facts on the ground said that their stupid plan was not working.

So they went ahead anyway and started a hundred year (and counting) war.

Stupid won the day.
(COMMENT)

If we assume that the Peel Commission --- YOUR proposition, represents findings and a practical view that the differences between the Jewish and Arab are so vast from each other that they cannot be made compatible and no solution exists, that any alternative solution approach will result in one of the following conditions:
  • The Jewish will be satisfied and the Arab will be disappointed.
  • The Arab will be satisfied and the Jewish will be disappointed.
  • Both the Arab and Jewish will be disappointed to one degree or another.
All that needs to be considered is the degree of disappointment and the magnitude of the effort and means to mitigate the adverse consequences.

Since (under your premise that) the Allied Powers are prevented from developing a solution which would have satisfied both side, the Allied Powers (or in this case the post-1945 UN) would have to decide which of the original objectives they are legally or morally bound to as a course of action.

Obviously, on the acceptance of the UNSCOP recommendation, the UN General Assembly made the determination in favor of the admission of Israel to membership in the United Nations. After more than a half century, the Arab Palestinians who do not recognize "Israel" and the legitimacy of its presence on any part of Palestine (HAMAS Political Position 2013 by Khaled Meshal) are still trying to undermine the will if the General Assembly.

The only outcome that would have satisfied the Arab would have been to place the preservation and security of the Jewish National Home under an Arab Muslim umbrella. And that would have had no reasonable expectation that the culture would have survived.

Thus, given that the intent was to provide such an environment that the Jewish National Home would have a reasonable chance at survival, the decision was made.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
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P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, may be...


P F Tinmore, et al,

It is not about the people (Arabs, Muslims, Islamic radicals) --- it was never about the people. It is about the culture and the preservation of ancient beliefs.

Stupid did not win the day.​

Are you kidding? Starting a hundred year (and counting) war when the solution was at their fingertips was not stupid? It was the epitome of stupid.

And Britain still wants to continue the war.

The Arab Palestinians were not cooperating...​

Indeed, and they are still rejecting the Zionist's colonial project. Perhaps the Zionists should have picked a more docile people to colonize.
(COMMENT)

Well, the war has lasted almost a century, if we start counting from the time of the Sykes-Picot Agreement (16 May 1916), and with Arab Revolt which began on (5 June 1916). Forces commanded by Sharif Hussein ibn Ali’s sons, the Emirs Ali and Feisal, attacked the Ottoman garrison at Medina. Certainly, if not by then --- then the Balfour Declaration was the start of the fire (2 November 1917).

But as Wars go, this was not of the magnitude or scope and nature that worried the Allied Powers or the UN. If the status quo can be maintained for another half century, most of the issues will have been resolved.

The solution was never at their finger tips. The objective was to create a Jewish National Home. There was never an objective to placate the Arab Palestinian. Those were ancillary compromises. The longer the Arab Palestinian waits to enter into good faith negotiations --- the more Area "C" will be developed by the Israelis. The Arab Palestinian is just another substandard culture left behind because they could not adapt, were too violent and unproductive.

Most Respectfully,
R
87. The members of the Peel Commission were led by their diagnosis of the situation in Palestine to the conclusion that the obligations imposed upon the Mandatory by the terms of the Mandate were mutually irreconcilable.​

That was the story for three decades.

People had been telling them for years that their stupid plan was not going to work. The facts on the ground said that their stupid plan was not working.

So they went ahead anyway and started a hundred year (and counting) war.

Stupid won the day.
(COMMENT)

If we assume that the Peel Commission --- YOUR proposition, represents findings and a practical view that the differences between the Jewish and Arab are so vast from each other that they cannot be made compatible and no solution exists, that any alternative solution approach will result in one of the following conditions:
  • The Jewish will be satisfied and the Arab will be disappointed.
  • The Arab will be satisfied and the Jewish will be disappointed.
  • Both the Arab and Jewish will be disappointed to one degree or another.
All that needs to be considered is the degree of disappointment and the magnitude of the effort and means to mitigate the adverse consequences.

Since (under your premise that) the Allied Powers are prevented from developing a solution which would have satisfied both side, the Allied Powers (or in this case the post-1945 UN) would have to decide which of the original objectives they are legally or morally bound to as a course of action.

Obviously, on the acceptance of the UNSCOP recommendation, the UN General Assembly made the determination in favor of the admission of Israel to membership in the United Nations. After more than a half century, the Arab Palestinians who do not recognize "Israel" and the legitimacy of its presence on any part of Palestine (HAMAS Political Position 2013 by Khaled Meshal) are still trying to undermine the will if the General Assembly.

The only outcome that would have satisfied the Arab would have been to place the preservation and security of the Jewish National Home under an Arab Muslim umbrella. And that would have had no reasonable expectation that the culture would have survived.

Thus, given that the intent was to provide such an environment that the Jewish National Home would have a reasonable chance at survival, the decision was made.

Most Respectfully,
R

While there had been European colonial successes in the Americas, Oceania etc. Those successes were predicated on the elimination of the local culture and most of the population. After WW2 and perhaps earlier, European colonialism had been determined to be morally questionable and not practical politically and economically. France was holding on to Algeria and Vietnam, but Britain was leaving India and elsewhere. It boggles the mind that the UN could have thought, given the times, that somehow another colonial enterprise would not have caused serious problems. It was cognitive dissonance.
 
montelatici, et al,

Yes, there were new lines of thought circulating. But in the past, colonialism was the power resettling and expanding their own population for the good of the Empire. The resettlement of the Jewish Population was not a World Power introducing is own populations, but several world powers that had concluded that a special effort (recognized at the turn of the century) was need for the sake of humanity, to protect and preserve a specifically identifiable segment of the species that was in danger.

While there had been European colonial successes in the Americas, Oceania etc. Those successes were predicated on the elimination of the local culture and most of the population. After WW2 and perhaps earlier, European colonialism had been determined to be morally questionable and not practical politically and economically. France was holding on to Algeria and Vietnam, but Britain was leaving India and elsewhere. It boggles the mind that the UN could have thought, given the times, that somehow another colonial enterprise would not have caused serious problems. It was cognitive dissonance.
(COMMENT)

I don't think that any of the world powers (either pre-WWI or post-WWII) were foolish enough to believe that the Arabs would ever appreciate the mission of resettling the Jewish Population, in their ancient point of origin, --- a population that had just undergone the most fiery of crucibles since the destruction of Carthage. Considering the cultural barriers and traditional selfishness of the culture.

This view has not changed much in over a 100 years. The description has just become more refined and politically correct so as to not invite terrorist Arab Backlash as so often happens when their feelings are hurt.

Centered on Civil Liberties said:
Many nationalists and cultural trustees of the Arab world, for instance, condemn the influences of globalization on their culture. Conservative Arab nationalists and fundamentalists argue that their culture cannot adhere to many globalized notions. For them any claim to the contrary is just an inspiration to degrade other cultures in favor of a dominant one, or an attempt to certify the domination of one culture, mainly the modern version of Western culture, over the others. SOURCE: The Middle East Tribune By: Mohammad S. Moussalli


Given that the post WWII Allied Powers had just experienced --- first hand --- and recognized a period in which the peaceful and somewhat docile culture of the Jewish People had just come through a systematic, popularly supported, state-sponsored, persecution of (approximately) six million Jews by the German regime (successor to the Weimar Republic) and its collaborators in nearly every European state; there was a genuine concern for the continuation of the culture and the moral obligation to insure that every reasonable effort be made for their settlement into a safe haven. Arab support for the persecutions had not gone unnoticed then, or now:

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PLO Official: We Supported the Nazis in WWII][/SIZE]
If anyone has had doubts about the Palestinian Authority’s (PA) support for the Nazis, recent remarks by one of its leaders should make things clearer.

In an interview with Russia Today TV on December 7, Farouq Qaddoumi, the former political bureau head of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), said that Arabs were “enthusiastic supporters” of the Nazis during World War II.

The remarks were translated by the Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI).

PA Chairman Mahmoud Abbas has consistently said that any future Palestinian state would be free of Israelis and Jews, much like the Nazis wanted Germany to be “Judenrein” (free of Jews).​

SOURCE: Arutz Sheva 7 By Elad Benari First Publish: 12/19/2013

This was a different kind of decision the Allied Powers and the International Community had to make. What set of decisions gives the best chance for the success of the Jewish National Home. In the end, the Partition Plan was decided upon.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
Whether the colonizers were from many European countries or just one, makes very little difference to the colonized. Tunisia had more Italian colonists than French colonists, for example. The French facilitated the colonization.

The decision to place a home for Europeans of a particular religion in Palestine was a crazy idea from the start, but to insist upon it after the second world war was the most notable example of cognitive dissonance. Germany and Germans killed most of the Jews, why wasn't an area of Germany carved out for the Jews? Why punish the Christians and Muslims of Palestine? And, the British knew that the Jews were intent on dispossessing the non-Jews of Palestine. Their official communications to the UN said as much in writing in A/AC.14/8 of
2 October 1947.
 
Whether the colonizers were from many European countries or just one, makes very little difference to the colonized. Tunisia had more Italian colonists than French colonists, for example. The French facilitated the colonization.

The decision to place a home for Europeans of a particular religion in Palestine was a crazy idea from the start, but to insist upon it after the second world war was the most notable example of cognitive dissonance. Germany and Germans killed most of the Jews, why wasn't an area of Germany carved out for the Jews? Why punish the Christians and Muslims of Palestine? And, the British knew that the Jews were intent on dispossessing the non-Jews of Palestine. Their official communications to the UN said as much in writing in A/AC.14/8 of
2 October 1947.


Bottom line is Israel is there. It isn't going away. And Israel has the capability to annihilate the Palestinians. Do you think maybe now might be a good time for the Palestinian squatters to end there vow to annihilate Israel & instead work for peace?
 
I think the Palestinians should continue doing what they are doing unless Israel agrees to the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state. Since it is clear that the Israelis will not allow the creation of a sovereign Palestinian state, the only solutions available are the eviction of all the non-Jews from the areas under Israeli control, the creation of a secular state for all the inhabitants of Palestine or the continuation of a state with separate development wherein the majority of the non-Jews under Israeli control are not enfranchised, that some call Apartheid.
 
But it wasn't a 100 years war was it, but a 1400 years war started by a mentally deranged psychopath who told the muslims that god had given them the world
In less than ten years three serious attacks have been made by Arabs on Jews. Fore eighty years before the first of these attacks there is no recorded instance of any similar incidents.

A AC.14 8 of 2 October 1947



Apart from the attacks in Hebron 1929, the civil war of 1930. Then the next civil war of 1933 followed by a scattering of smaller attacks up until 1947 when the arab league declared war and invaded to attack and wipe out the Jews. Do you want the rest of the attacks by arab muslims on the Jews. Or are you going to do an Ostrich and bury your head in the sand
Indeed, those were the attacks that they were talking about that happened after the Zionist invasion.
.
First off, their was no 'Zionist Invasion' That's a Palestinian propaganda myth that you love to pimp.
Second, what does it matter when the attacks took place ? Arabs massacred Jews several times before any Arab was killed
Finally, the Jews killed in the Hebron massacre were native Jews.


"The Jews killed in the Hebron massacre were native Jews."

The Arab Jews were not targeted, the European colonists were the targets.

"Soon after news of the first victim had spread, forty people assembled in the house of Eliezer Dan Slonim. Slonim, the son of the Rabbi of Hebron, was a member on the city council and a director of the Anglo-Palestine Bank. He had excellent relations with the British and the Arabs and those seeking refuge with him were confident they would come to no harm. When the mob approached his door, they offered to spare the Sephardi community if he would hand over all the Ashkenazi yeshiva students. He refused, saying "we are all one people," whereupon he was shot dead along with his wife and 4-year-old son.[34] From the contemporary Hebrew press it appears that the rioters targeted the Zionist community for their massacre. Four-fifths of the victims were Ashkenazi Jews, "

1929 Hebron massacre - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Both were targeted and killed. Your link proves nothing.
 
P F Tinmore, et al,

Yes, may be...


P F Tinmore, et al,

It is not about the people (Arabs, Muslims, Islamic radicals) --- it was never about the people. It is about the culture and the preservation of ancient beliefs.

Stupid did not win the day.​

Are you kidding? Starting a hundred year (and counting) war when the solution was at their fingertips was not stupid? It was the epitome of stupid.

And Britain still wants to continue the war.

The Arab Palestinians were not cooperating...​

Indeed, and they are still rejecting the Zionist's colonial project. Perhaps the Zionists should have picked a more docile people to colonize.
(COMMENT)

Well, the war has lasted almost a century, if we start counting from the time of the Sykes-Picot Agreement (16 May 1916), and with Arab Revolt which began on (5 June 1916). Forces commanded by Sharif Hussein ibn Ali’s sons, the Emirs Ali and Feisal, attacked the Ottoman garrison at Medina. Certainly, if not by then --- then the Balfour Declaration was the start of the fire (2 November 1917).

But as Wars go, this was not of the magnitude or scope and nature that worried the Allied Powers or the UN. If the status quo can be maintained for another half century, most of the issues will have been resolved.

The solution was never at their finger tips. The objective was to create a Jewish National Home. There was never an objective to placate the Arab Palestinian. Those were ancillary compromises. The longer the Arab Palestinian waits to enter into good faith negotiations --- the more Area "C" will be developed by the Israelis. The Arab Palestinian is just another substandard culture left behind because they could not adapt, were too violent and unproductive.

Most Respectfully,
R
87. The members of the Peel Commission were led by their diagnosis of the situation in Palestine to the conclusion that the obligations imposed upon the Mandatory by the terms of the Mandate were mutually irreconcilable.​

That was the story for three decades.

People had been telling them for years that their stupid plan was not going to work. The facts on the ground said that their stupid plan was not working.

So they went ahead anyway and started a hundred year (and counting) war.

Stupid won the day.
(COMMENT)

If we assume that the Peel Commission --- YOUR proposition, represents findings and a practical view that the differences between the Jewish and Arab are so vast from each other that they cannot be made compatible and no solution exists, that any alternative solution approach will result in one of the following conditions:
  • The Jewish will be satisfied and the Arab will be disappointed.
  • The Arab will be satisfied and the Jewish will be disappointed.
  • Both the Arab and Jewish will be disappointed to one degree or another.
All that needs to be considered is the degree of disappointment and the magnitude of the effort and means to mitigate the adverse consequences.

Since (under your premise that) the Allied Powers are prevented from developing a solution which would have satisfied both side, the Allied Powers (or in this case the post-1945 UN) would have to decide which of the original objectives they are legally or morally bound to as a course of action.

Obviously, on the acceptance of the UNSCOP recommendation, the UN General Assembly made the determination in favor of the admission of Israel to membership in the United Nations. After more than a half century, the Arab Palestinians who do not recognize "Israel" and the legitimacy of its presence on any part of Palestine (HAMAS Political Position 2013 by Khaled Meshal) are still trying to undermine the will if the General Assembly.

The only outcome that would have satisfied the Arab would have been to place the preservation and security of the Jewish National Home under an Arab Muslim umbrella. And that would have had no reasonable expectation that the culture would have survived.

Thus, given that the intent was to provide such an environment that the Jewish National Home would have a reasonable chance at survival, the decision was made.

Most Respectfully,
R
 
I think the Palestinians should continue doing what they are doing unless Israel agrees to the establishment of a sovereign Palestinian state. Since it is clear that the Israelis will not allow the creation of a sovereign Palestinian state, the only solutions available are the eviction of all the non-Jews from the areas under Israeli control, the creation of a secular state for all the inhabitants of Palestine or the continuation of a state with separate development wherein the majority of the non-Jews under Israeli control are not enfranchised, that some call Apartheid.
In less than ten years three serious attacks have been made by Arabs on Jews. Fore eighty years before the first of these attacks there is no recorded instance of any similar incidents.

A AC.14 8 of 2 October 1947



Apart from the attacks in Hebron 1929, the civil war of 1930. Then the next civil war of 1933 followed by a scattering of smaller attacks up until 1947 when the arab league declared war and invaded to attack and wipe out the Jews. Do you want the rest of the attacks by arab muslims on the Jews. Or are you going to do an Ostrich and bury your head in the sand
Indeed, those were the attacks that they were talking about that happened after the Zionist invasion.
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First off, their was no 'Zionist Invasion' That's a Palestinian propaganda myth that you love to pimp.
Second, what does it matter when the attacks took place ? Arabs massacred Jews several times before any Arab was killed
Finally, the Jews killed in the Hebron massacre were native Jews.


"The Jews killed in the Hebron massacre were native Jews."

The Arab Jews were not targeted, the European colonists were the targets.

"Soon after news of the first victim had spread, forty people assembled in the house of Eliezer Dan Slonim. Slonim, the son of the Rabbi of Hebron, was a member on the city council and a director of the Anglo-Palestine Bank. He had excellent relations with the British and the Arabs and those seeking refuge with him were confident they would come to no harm. When the mob approached his door, they offered to spare the Sephardi community if he would hand over all the Ashkenazi yeshiva students. He refused, saying "we are all one people," whereupon he was shot dead along with his wife and 4-year-old son.[34] From the contemporary Hebrew press it appears that the rioters targeted the Zionist community for their massacre. Four-fifths of the victims were Ashkenazi Jews, "

1929 Hebron massacre - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Both were targeted and killed. Your link proves nothing.

It proves that the non-Jews only had a problem with the colonizers, not the indigenous Jews.
 
Now where does it say that all the Jews were expelled from Palestine in your cut and paste. It doesn't does it so once again proving that you are a RACIST LIAR that cant support your claims. So I will ask again for a non partisan link to your false claim that the Romans expelled every last Jews from Roman Palestine. A tip would be to first find out what Roman Palestine was.

By the way you do know that Jesus died at Masada don't you fighting the Romans, the evidence was found there by some archaeologists and whisked away to the Vatican.


YETY ANOTHER MASSIVE FAIL BY YOU TRYING TO TRICK PEOPLE
 
Now where does it say that all the Jews were expelled from Palestine in your cut and paste. It doesn't does it so once again proving that you are a RACIST LIAR that cant support your claims. So I will ask again for a non partisan link to your false claim that the Romans expelled every last Jews from Roman Palestine. A tip would be to first find out what Roman Palestine was.

By the way you do know that Jesus died at Masada don't you fighting the Romans, the evidence was found there by some archaeologists and whisked away to the Vatican.


YETY ANOTHER MASSIVE FAIL BY YOU TRYING TO TRICK PEOPLE
 
Now where does it say that all the Jews were expelled from Palestine in your cut and paste. It doesn't does it so once again proving that you are a RACIST LIAR that cant support your claims. So I will ask again for a non partisan link to your false claim that the Romans expelled every last Jews from Roman Palestine. A tip would be to first find out what Roman Palestine was.

By the way you do know that Jesus died at Masada don't you fighting the Romans, the evidence was found there by some archaeologists and whisked away to the Vatican.


YET ANOTHER MASSIVE FAIL BY YOU TRYING TO TRICK PEOPLE
 
Now where does it say that all the Jews were expelled from Palestine in your cut and paste. It doesn't does it so once again proving that you are a RACIST LIAR that cant support your claims. So I will ask again for a non partisan link to your false claim that the Romans expelled every last Jews from Roman Palestine. A tip would be to first find out what Roman Palestine was.

By the way you do know that Jesus died at Masada don't you fighting the Romans, the evidence was found there by some archaeologists and whisked away to the Vatican.


YET ANOTHER MASSIVE FAIL BY YOU TRYING TO TRICK PEOPLE
 
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