Who Are The Palestinians? Part 2

[Sixties Fan]

There was a demonstration organized by the same group with disabled Gazans holding up signs in Arabic and English asking where their rights are for food, water and treatment.

Today, the same group, using bogus statistics, claimed that Israel's "siege" of Gaza has claimed 1000 lives so far. They come up with this number by counting people who have died waiting for PA approval for medical treatment outside Gaza, by counting people who have died in fires started by dangerous kerosene and wood heaters and candles (blaming Israel for lack of power, which is false,) and by counting 350 people who supposedly died while looking for jobs.

Ahmad al-Kurd, in the press conference, is begging for help from the world to help the poor Gazans dying from the "siege."
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Hamas is in worse financial shape lately since it lost its funding from most Gulf countries. This "Charity Coalition" is an extremely cynical use of charity to raise funds to kill Israelis.

(full article online)

Scoop: Palestinian NGO "Save Gaza" "Charity Coalition" is a Hamas terrorist front ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Mindful]

Darwin Award Candidates of the Day
Palestinian rioters today wheeled a burning tire towards IDF soldiers. It did not go according to plan
ISRAELLYCOOL.COM

 

[Sixties Fan]

• Let us be clear about this: When Palestinians -- and some of their supporters in the international community, including Europe -- say that they want an end to the "occupation," they mean they want to see an end to Israel's existence, full stop. They do not want to throw the Jews out of their homes in the settlements; rather, they want Jews to be expelled from the whole country.
  
  
• The conflict, as far as the Palestinians are concerned, did not begin in 1967, when east Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza Strip came under Israeli control. In the eyes of the Palestinians, all Jews are "settlers" and "colonialists." All the land, they argue, stretching from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, is Muslim-owned land, and no Muslim is entitled to give up any part of it to a non-Muslim. For the Palestinians, accepting Israel's "right to exist" with Jews is seen as an act of treason.
  
  
• What is really bothering the Palestinians is that Israel, with Jews, exists, period. The Palestinians want all of Jerusalem. They want all of "Palestine." They want Israel removed from the planet. It is time to listen carefully to what the Palestinians are saying -- in Arabic -- to understand that the conflict is not about Jerusalem and not about settlements.
  
  (full article online)
  
  Palestinians: Israel is One Big Settlement

 

[P F Tinmore]

• Let us be clear about this: When Palestinians -- and some of their supporters in the international community, including Europe -- say that they want an end to the "occupation," they mean they want to see an end to Israel's existence, full stop. They do not want to throw the Jews out of their homes in the settlements; rather, they want Jews to be expelled from the whole country.
  
  
• The conflict, as far as the Palestinians are concerned, did not begin in 1967, when east Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza Strip came under Israeli control. In the eyes of the Palestinians, all Jews are "settlers" and "colonialists." All the land, they argue, stretching from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, is Muslim-owned land, and no Muslim is entitled to give up any part of it to a non-Muslim. For the Palestinians, accepting Israel's "right to exist" with Jews is seen as an act of treason.
  
  
• What is really bothering the Palestinians is that Israel, with Jews, exists, period. The Palestinians want all of Jerusalem. They want all of "Palestine." They want Israel removed from the planet. It is time to listen carefully to what the Palestinians are saying -- in Arabic -- to understand that the conflict is not about Jerusalem and not about settlements.
  
  (full article online)
  
  Palestinians: Israel is One Big Settlement

The Palestinians want all of Jerusalem. They want all of "Palestine."

The Palestinians want all of Palestine? Oh my!

 

[Hollie]

• Let us be clear about this: When Palestinians -- and some of their supporters in the international community, including Europe -- say that they want an end to the "occupation," they mean they want to see an end to Israel's existence, full stop. They do not want to throw the Jews out of their homes in the settlements; rather, they want Jews to be expelled from the whole country.
  
  
• The conflict, as far as the Palestinians are concerned, did not begin in 1967, when east Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza Strip came under Israeli control. In the eyes of the Palestinians, all Jews are "settlers" and "colonialists." All the land, they argue, stretching from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, is Muslim-owned land, and no Muslim is entitled to give up any part of it to a non-Muslim. For the Palestinians, accepting Israel's "right to exist" with Jews is seen as an act of treason.
  
  
• What is really bothering the Palestinians is that Israel, with Jews, exists, period. The Palestinians want all of Jerusalem. They want all of "Palestine." They want Israel removed from the planet. It is time to listen carefully to what the Palestinians are saying -- in Arabic -- to understand that the conflict is not about Jerusalem and not about settlements.
  
  (full article online)
  
  Palestinians: Israel is One Big Settlement

The Palestinians want all of Jerusalem. They want all of "Palestine."

The Palestinians want all of Palestine? Oh my!

The Arabs-Moslems want their mini-caliphate to be Jew free and kuffar free. That defines the history of Islamist fascism.

 

[P F Tinmore]

• Let us be clear about this: When Palestinians -- and some of their supporters in the international community, including Europe -- say that they want an end to the "occupation," they mean they want to see an end to Israel's existence, full stop. They do not want to throw the Jews out of their homes in the settlements; rather, they want Jews to be expelled from the whole country.
  
  
• The conflict, as far as the Palestinians are concerned, did not begin in 1967, when east Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza Strip came under Israeli control. In the eyes of the Palestinians, all Jews are "settlers" and "colonialists." All the land, they argue, stretching from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, is Muslim-owned land, and no Muslim is entitled to give up any part of it to a non-Muslim. For the Palestinians, accepting Israel's "right to exist" with Jews is seen as an act of treason.
  
  
• What is really bothering the Palestinians is that Israel, with Jews, exists, period. The Palestinians want all of Jerusalem. They want all of "Palestine." They want Israel removed from the planet. It is time to listen carefully to what the Palestinians are saying -- in Arabic -- to understand that the conflict is not about Jerusalem and not about settlements.
  
  (full article online)
  
  Palestinians: Israel is One Big Settlement

The Palestinians want all of Jerusalem. They want all of "Palestine."

The Palestinians want all of Palestine? Oh my!

The Arabs-Moslems want their mini-caliphate to be Jew free and kuffar free. That defines the history of Islamist fascism.

No they don't.

 

[Sixties Fan]

• Let us be clear about this: When Palestinians -- and some of their supporters in the international community, including Europe -- say that they want an end to the "occupation," they mean they want to see an end to Israel's existence, full stop. They do not want to throw the Jews out of their homes in the settlements; rather, they want Jews to be expelled from the whole country.
  
  
• The conflict, as far as the Palestinians are concerned, did not begin in 1967, when east Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza Strip came under Israeli control. In the eyes of the Palestinians, all Jews are "settlers" and "colonialists." All the land, they argue, stretching from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, is Muslim-owned land, and no Muslim is entitled to give up any part of it to a non-Muslim. For the Palestinians, accepting Israel's "right to exist" with Jews is seen as an act of treason.
  
  
• What is really bothering the Palestinians is that Israel, with Jews, exists, period. The Palestinians want all of Jerusalem. They want all of "Palestine." They want Israel removed from the planet. It is time to listen carefully to what the Palestinians are saying -- in Arabic -- to understand that the conflict is not about Jerusalem and not about settlements.
  
  (full article online)
  
  Palestinians: Israel is One Big Settlement

The Palestinians want all of Jerusalem. They want all of "Palestine."

The Palestinians want all of Palestine? Oh my!

The Arabs-Moslems want their mini-caliphate to be Jew free and kuffar free. That defines the history of Islamist fascism.

No they don't.

Expand on those three words, if you please.
We can find Muslim extremists saying exactly what Hollie just posted.

How are you going to prove that there are no Muslim extremists who want a mini caliphate in the place of Israel?

 

[P F Tinmore]

• Let us be clear about this: When Palestinians -- and some of their supporters in the international community, including Europe -- say that they want an end to the "occupation," they mean they want to see an end to Israel's existence, full stop. They do not want to throw the Jews out of their homes in the settlements; rather, they want Jews to be expelled from the whole country.
  
  
• The conflict, as far as the Palestinians are concerned, did not begin in 1967, when east Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza Strip came under Israeli control. In the eyes of the Palestinians, all Jews are "settlers" and "colonialists." All the land, they argue, stretching from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, is Muslim-owned land, and no Muslim is entitled to give up any part of it to a non-Muslim. For the Palestinians, accepting Israel's "right to exist" with Jews is seen as an act of treason.
  
  
• What is really bothering the Palestinians is that Israel, with Jews, exists, period. The Palestinians want all of Jerusalem. They want all of "Palestine." They want Israel removed from the planet. It is time to listen carefully to what the Palestinians are saying -- in Arabic -- to understand that the conflict is not about Jerusalem and not about settlements.
  
  (full article online)
  
  Palestinians: Israel is One Big Settlement

The Palestinians want all of Jerusalem. They want all of "Palestine."

The Palestinians want all of Palestine? Oh my!

The Arabs-Moslems want their mini-caliphate to be Jew free and kuffar free. That defines the history of Islamist fascism.

No they don't.

Expand on those three words, if you please.
We can find Muslim extremists saying exactly what Hollie just posted.

How are you going to prove that there are no Muslim extremists who want a mini caliphate in the place of Israel?

I am talking about main stream not extreme. Extremists in all camps say weird shit.

 

[fanger]

Elder of Ziyon may or may not be a real person.
Elder of Ziyon, is an American[1] pro-Israel blog.[2] It is written anonymously
Elder of Ziyon - Wikipedia

Strawman

 

[Sixties Fan]

• Let us be clear about this: When Palestinians -- and some of their supporters in the international community, including Europe -- say that they want an end to the "occupation," they mean they want to see an end to Israel's existence, full stop. They do not want to throw the Jews out of their homes in the settlements; rather, they want Jews to be expelled from the whole country.
  
  
• The conflict, as far as the Palestinians are concerned, did not begin in 1967, when east Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza Strip came under Israeli control. In the eyes of the Palestinians, all Jews are "settlers" and "colonialists." All the land, they argue, stretching from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, is Muslim-owned land, and no Muslim is entitled to give up any part of it to a non-Muslim. For the Palestinians, accepting Israel's "right to exist" with Jews is seen as an act of treason.
  
  
• What is really bothering the Palestinians is that Israel, with Jews, exists, period. The Palestinians want all of Jerusalem. They want all of "Palestine." They want Israel removed from the planet. It is time to listen carefully to what the Palestinians are saying -- in Arabic -- to understand that the conflict is not about Jerusalem and not about settlements.
  
  (full article online)
  
  Palestinians: Israel is One Big Settlement

The Palestinians want all of Jerusalem. They want all of "Palestine."

The Palestinians want all of Palestine? Oh my!

The Arabs-Moslems want their mini-caliphate to be Jew free and kuffar free. That defines the history of Islamist fascism.

No they don't.

Expand on those three words, if you please.
We can find Muslim extremists saying exactly what Hollie just posted.

How are you going to prove that there are no Muslim extremists who want a mini caliphate in the place of Israel?

I am talking about main stream not extreme. Extremists in all camps say weird shit.

In other words, you answered Hollie's post just for the sake of answering without understanding what Hollie was talking about, or caring.

Hamas is extreme Islam.
The PA, PLO, Fatah is extreme Islam.

How are you going to prove that the education given in Gaza, the PA territories, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, etc is not one where Israel ceases to exist and a Pan Arab caliphate is set in its place?

 

[Sixties Fan]

Elder of Ziyon may or may not be a real person.
Elder of Ziyon, is an American[1] pro-Israel blog.[2] It is written anonymously
Elder of Ziyon - Wikipedia

Strawman

Fanger, the fool.

And your nonsense turns Elder's articles into lies, how?
Show one article which is not based on facts.

 

[fanger]

Elder of Ziyon may or may not be a real person.
Elder of Ziyon, is an American[1] pro-Israel blog.[2] It is written anonymously
Elder of Ziyon - Wikipedia

Strawman

Fanger, the fool.

And your nonsense turns Elder's articles into lies, how?
Show one article which is not based on facts.

What is "nonsense" in the fact that you're quoting from an anonymous blog?

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Palestinians want all of Palestine? Oh my!

The Arabs-Moslems want their mini-caliphate to be Jew free and kuffar free. That defines the history of Islamist fascism.

No they don't.

Expand on those three words, if you please.
We can find Muslim extremists saying exactly what Hollie just posted.

How are you going to prove that there are no Muslim extremists who want a mini caliphate in the place of Israel?

I am talking about main stream not extreme. Extremists in all camps say weird shit.

In other words, you answered Hollie's post just for the sake of answering without understanding what Hollie was talking about, or caring.

Hamas is extreme Islam.
The PA, PLO, Fatah is extreme Islam.

How are you going to prove that the education given in Gaza, the PA territories, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, etc is not one where Israel ceases to exist and a Pan Arab caliphate is set in its place?

Nobody is going to kick out the Jews. That would be unacceptable to almost everyone.

 

[Hollie]

• Let us be clear about this: When Palestinians -- and some of their supporters in the international community, including Europe -- say that they want an end to the "occupation," they mean they want to see an end to Israel's existence, full stop. They do not want to throw the Jews out of their homes in the settlements; rather, they want Jews to be expelled from the whole country.
  
  
• The conflict, as far as the Palestinians are concerned, did not begin in 1967, when east Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza Strip came under Israeli control. In the eyes of the Palestinians, all Jews are "settlers" and "colonialists." All the land, they argue, stretching from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, is Muslim-owned land, and no Muslim is entitled to give up any part of it to a non-Muslim. For the Palestinians, accepting Israel's "right to exist" with Jews is seen as an act of treason.
  
  
• What is really bothering the Palestinians is that Israel, with Jews, exists, period. The Palestinians want all of Jerusalem. They want all of "Palestine." They want Israel removed from the planet. It is time to listen carefully to what the Palestinians are saying -- in Arabic -- to understand that the conflict is not about Jerusalem and not about settlements.
  
  (full article online)
  
  Palestinians: Israel is One Big Settlement

The Palestinians want all of Jerusalem. They want all of "Palestine."

The Palestinians want all of Palestine? Oh my!

The Arabs-Moslems want their mini-caliphate to be Jew free and kuffar free. That defines the history of Islamist fascism.

No they don't.

Of course they do. They spelled it out so you wouldn't be befuddled.

They're just pious Moslems who know their koranolgy and sunnah.

The Avalon Project : Hamas Covenant 1988

Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).



The Avalon Project : The Palestinian National Charter

Article 9:
Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine. This it is the overall strategy, not merely a tactical phase. The Palestinian Arab people assert their absolute determination and firm resolution to continue their armed struggle and to work for an armed popular revolution for the liberation of their country and their return to it . They also assert their right to normal life in Palestine and to exercise their right to self-determination and sovereignty over it.

 

[Hollie]

The Arabs-Moslems want their mini-caliphate to be Jew free and kuffar free. That defines the history of Islamist fascism.

No they don't.

Expand on those three words, if you please.
We can find Muslim extremists saying exactly what Hollie just posted.

How are you going to prove that there are no Muslim extremists who want a mini caliphate in the place of Israel?

I am talking about main stream not extreme. Extremists in all camps say weird shit.

In other words, you answered Hollie's post just for the sake of answering without understanding what Hollie was talking about, or caring.

Hamas is extreme Islam.
The PA, PLO, Fatah is extreme Islam.

How are you going to prove that the education given in Gaza, the PA territories, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, etc is not one where Israel ceases to exist and a Pan Arab caliphate is set in its place?

Nobody is going to kick out the Jews.

Certainly not you, slamming away at your keyboard.

 

[Sixties Fan]

The Arabs-Moslems want their mini-caliphate to be Jew free and kuffar free. That defines the history of Islamist fascism.

No they don't.

Expand on those three words, if you please.
We can find Muslim extremists saying exactly what Hollie just posted.

How are you going to prove that there are no Muslim extremists who want a mini caliphate in the place of Israel?

I am talking about main stream not extreme. Extremists in all camps say weird shit.

In other words, you answered Hollie's post just for the sake of answering without understanding what Hollie was talking about, or caring.

Hamas is extreme Islam.
The PA, PLO, Fatah is extreme Islam.

How are you going to prove that the education given in Gaza, the PA territories, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, etc is not one where Israel ceases to exist and a Pan Arab caliphate is set in its place?

Nobody is going to kick out the Jews. That would be unacceptable to almost everyone.

And first of all, the Jews - Israel - are not going to allow them to kick ONE Jew from their homeland again, no matter how hard they will try.

But, you have been the one to say that Israel does not exist, that the Jews stole the land, etc etc.

Are you playing some game today which will not endear us to you anyway, by attempting to say all of these "no one wants to kick the Jews out, it is unacceptable" so on and so forth?

Is that what is in the BDS handbook for today?

 

[Sixties Fan]

[ Look !!! Gaza has a very nice hotel......who knew ? ]

Gaza hotel tiff highlights power struggle between Qatar and Egypt

 

[Sixties Fan]

Syria still thinks that blaming Israel is the way to unify Arabs against their enemies. (Iran still clings to that idea as well.)

But more and more Arabs are publicly acknowledging that this thinking has only contributed to their own problems. Jordan Times has an op-ed that says:

Today, extremists in the Middle East put on explosive vests and blow themselves up in houses of worship of other sects. To end this tragedy, perhaps we should start thinking of our conflicts not as a scourge inflicted upon us by the omnipotent Imperialist-Zionist conspiracies, but as problems of our making, which should be solved through reason. The author is Western-educated, of course. This kind of actual thinking needs to be put into Arab schools and universities if any real progress is to be made in the Middle East.

(full article online)

Syrians claim that they are fighting "Zionist terrorists" in Eastern Ghouta. Arabs don't buy this any more. ~ Elder Of Ziyon - Israel News

 

[Shusha]

The Arabs-Moslems want their mini-caliphate to be Jew free and kuffar free. That defines the history of Islamist fascism.

No they don't.

I agree. They don't necessarily want Palestine to be Jew-free. They just want the Jewish people to return to dhimmi status. That is, they want to ensure that Jews are prohibited from certain rights -- rights to self-government, rights to sovereignty, rights to worship in their holy places, rights to self-defense, rights to equality.

 

[Shusha]

The Palestinians want all of Palestine? Oh my!

Well, technically, the Arab Palestinians only want part of Palestine. The part that should have been under the sovereignty of the Jewish People. I don't see them whining a whole bunch about getting Jordan back.