Who are the most admirable members of the Tea Party Caucus?

[Amelia]

The Tea Party Caucus has a number of members who make the news for negative reasons. From the merely gaffe-prone to the hypocritical to the over-the-top disgraceful.

If you are a fan of this group, I invite you to put in a good word for one or more of the members. I'd like to hear some good things to maybe dislodge the bad images. I don't have ready access to conservative news outlets such as Fox, so I might have missed something which is common knowledge to you.

TIA


Tea Party Caucus Members, according to Wikipedia

 

[Interpol]

I'm basically a moderate conservative who also has moderate liberal views.

I've had a hard time dealing with the TeePee's because of their position on things versus what it is they get done.

It's the curse of governing; what you say is put up against what you do.

I'm a deficit hawk. The Tea Party talks about this, but then they get elected and try to pass dozens of abortion bills and defunding Planned Parenthood and all this other nonsense. Then they're uncompromising on the debt package and only sign off on less than half of the amount they were aiming for. I mean, I'm just not used to seeing this kind of "snatching defeat from the jaws of victory" with Republicans.

Over the last several weeks it's become clear that they're now reneging on the stuff they agreed to last summer. I mean, what's going on here?

I admire Ron Paul. I think it is obvious that he should be in charge of the Federal Reserve.

He's open and accountable, and when he speaks of values like responsibility, you just trust him. He has gravitas and he doesn't lie about what he knows. I don't know that he'd be a good President, but as someone who could help America to understand what the Fed is and how it works and what we could do about it, Paul would be the perfect person to help bring that discussion forward.

I respect the views of social conservatives, but what I have a problem with is when anyone tries to legislate social values that go against the concept of "individual liberty". I don't believe that laws on abortion reduce or increase the amount of abortions.

I say stop bombing Planned Parenthood and start educating our young people well. What makes our society better than most is that we don't adhere to our religious fundamentalists, like in Iran or elsewhere. When our Pope says something like we don't believe in contraception, we sort of nod in agreement at the old chap, meanwhile our women are on birth control and the men are on boner pills, and people these days seem to be relatively okay with that except for about a third of the country, which wants to make sex as dangerous as possible.

If life begins at conception, than allowing for a young woman to prevent unwanted conception appears to me to be an individual freedom that ought to be allowed to her and her alone.

Now get this, I think that's a perfectly conservative way of thinking.

 

[Interpol]

So anyway, I admire Ron Paul.

I'm trying to think of any other TeePee's I admire, but none come to mind at the moment.

I started out by liking Paul Ryan, but how can such a young man be so rigid? His plan on Medicare is fairy tale. And it's not conservative. The donut hole in the funding gap of it would be enormous.

I thought Michele Bachmann was kind of vivacious at first until she showed that she was on a vendetta as well. And now that she's in there, and the rest of them are there, they have to account for the fact that they're not getting things done.

I guess I just don't understand the adversarial nature of things. In my line of work I relate with liberals and conservatives. Work with both of 'em, get shit done.

It's a split Congress, folks, and things work best if you get about half of what you want, and you let the other guys get about half of what they want, and then the President signs off on it and there we are with the beginning of a real debt package.

Raising taxes to just blow it on more spending is bad, but modest increases in order to help bring down our deficits is something I see as a conservative thing to do. I mean, I just can't square it that if your job is to make money from your investments, than that's your job and your tax rate should be where anyone else's should be depending on what you make.

Isn't that basic fairness?

I like Rubio personally, but I just don't disagree with some key things he and the Tea Partiers are doing versus what it is they said they were all about doing 2 years ago.

We need leadership right now, not culture wars and bickering and in-fighting.

Talking about efficient gov't and limted gov't is all nice and good, but what's admirable is when you can brainstorm some ideas that are interesting and persuasive, and so far I have found that the Tea Party is far less Ron Paul and much more Rick Santorum for my liking.

 

[Mr. H.]

I've met with Joe Walsh on a couple of occasions. I'm impressed.

 

[bayoubill]

I like the concept of the Tea Party...

but most all of the TP'ers in the public spotlight come off as dumb motherfuckers and/or opportunistic jerks...

 

[LoneLaugher]

I've met with Joe Walsh on a couple of occasions. I'm impressed.

I have not met the man. I have seen and heard him interviewed on several occasions, though. It has been a while, but I don't recall being impressed at all with him as a result.

Could you elaborate regarding what it is that impressed you about him?

 

[WEthePEOPLE1776]

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I like the concept of the Tea Party...

but most all of the TP'ers in the public spotlight come off as dumb motherfuckers and/or opportunistic jerks...

Well then you've bought into the crap the media wants you to see.

 

[Mr. H.]

I've met with Joe Walsh on a couple of occasions. I'm impressed.

I have not met the man. I have seen and heard him interviewed on several occasions, though. It has been a while, but I don't recall being impressed at all with him as a result.

Could you elaborate regarding what it is that impressed you about him?

The guy is a hoot. Energetic, optimistic, smart and witty. Engaging, informed, eager to learn more, and eager to help commerce in his state (IL) and the U.S. He's pro-business, pro-hydrocarbon, and pro-jobs. Real jobs, not pretend government jobs.

 

[Buford]

I like Alan West and I think he would be a good VP choice.

 

[Billo_Really]

The "bagger nation" are the dumbest members of our society.

 

[BuddyColt]

The "bagger nation" are the dumbest members of our society.

Could you be more specific and share a couple of examples?

 

[Buford]

The "bagger nation" are the dumbest members of our society.

Oh, for sure. And "OWS nation" are the intelligent contributors to our society. Yup.

 

[whitehall]

Why are radical lefties so afraid of a political movement of people who carry copies of the Constitution around? The liberal media has more power than a loosely knit grass roots political pressure group. Why don't you ask who the most admirable members of the media are? Dan Rather?

 

[BuddyColt]

The "bagger nation" are the dumbest members of our society.

Oh, for sure. And "OWS nation" are the intelligent contributors to our society. Yup.

How does the OWS merit media attention? I can't figure out what it is they stand for, BTW.

 

[Billo_Really]

The "bagger nation" are the dumbest members of our society.

Could you be more specific and share a couple of examples?

One example is their leaders are lunatics. Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bauchman, Christine O'Donnall, Pumpkin-head, etc and they believe shit that doesn't exist (like death panels, Obama's a socialist, a marxist, a Kenyan, etc).

Another example was when they marched on Washington just 6 months into the President's first term. WTF can a President do, any President, in his first 6 months in office that would be so outragous that would predicate a march on Washington with a rally at the Washington Monument? When you look at the only other two rallys and marches of that size:

• MLK civil rights march
• the 2004 anti-war rally

and what was the reason for those events, then you look at the tea party rally and hear what the people there said was their reasons to march, there's something wrong with the picture. Half the shit they said was non-sense and the one thing that was anything close to being a valid issue (government spending), they say nothing about cutting the defense budget. If you're really serious about cutting back government spending, that's where you start.

They're a bunch of idiots who don't even educate themselves on the issues of the day. They just get their little pamphlet from Dick Army and go off to do what it say's.

 

[Sarah G]

Admirable and teaparty = Oxymoron.

 

[Buford]

The "bagger nation" are the dumbest members of our society.

Could you be more specific and share a couple of examples?

One example is their leaders are lunatics. Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bauchman, Christine O'Donnall, Pumpkin-head, etc and they believe shit that doesn't exist (like death panels, Obama's a socialist, a marxist, a Kenyan, etc).

Another example was when they marched on Washington just 6 months into the President's first term. WTF can a President do, any President, in his first 6 months in office that would be so outragous that would predicate a march on Washington with a rally at the Washington Monument? When you look at the only other two rallys and marches of that size:

• MLK civil rights march
• the 2004 anti-war rally

and what was the reason for those events, then you look at the tea party rally and hear what the people there said was their reasons to march, there's something wrong with the picture. Half the shit they said was non-sense and the one thing that was anything close to being a valid issue (government spending), they say nothing about cutting the defense budget. If you're really serious about cutting back government spending, that's where you start.

They're a bunch of idiots who don't even educate themselves on the issues of the day. They just get their little pamphlet from Dick Army and go off to do what it say's.

Obama himself said he preferred to hang with Marxist professors in college. Obama himself said he was born in Kenya in his promo booklet from 1991. Wake up. You were fooled and millions of other Americans were fooled. We told ya, but you're all just so gosh darn smart.

 

[BuddyColt]

Could you be more specific and share a couple of examples?

One example is their leaders are lunatics. Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bauchman, Christine O'Donnall, Pumpkin-head, etc and they believe shit that doesn't exist (like death panels, Obama's a socialist, a marxist, a Kenyan, etc).

Another example was when they marched on Washington just 6 months into the President's first term. WTF can a President do, any President, in his first 6 months in office that would be so outragous that would predicate a march on Washington with a rally at the Washington Monument? When you look at the only other two rallys and marches of that size:

• MLK civil rights march
• the 2004 anti-war rally

and what was the reason for those events, then you look at the tea party rally and hear what the people there said was their reasons to march, there's something wrong with the picture. Half the shit they said was non-sense and the one thing that was anything close to being a valid issue (government spending), they say nothing about cutting the defense budget. If you're really serious about cutting back government spending, that's where you start.

They're a bunch of idiots who don't even educate themselves on the issues of the day. They just get their little pamphlet from Dick Army and go off to do what it say's.

Obama himself said he preferred to hang with Marxist professors in college. Obama himself said he was born in Kenya in his promo booklet from 1991. Wake up. You were fooled and millions of other Americans were fooled. We told ya, but you're all just so gosh darn smart.

As much as I don't like the Tea Party, I really find Barack Obama more objectionable. For instance, that Obama book has been around a number of years... and Obama didn't already read it? Yeah, right. I bet he has that book memorized. But, let's suppose for a moment that the book got it wrong. Obama let a lie stand. So, Obama would be a liar.

We've heard, in its context, the things that Rev. (sic) Wright had to say about the white people. EVERYBODY is acquainted with Obama's racist and Marxist leanings. Obama even put Sotomayor on the Supreme Court:

http://christwire.org/2009/05/sonia-sotomayor-socialist-commie-yearbook-quote/

I won't let the Tea Party off just yet. They had Glenn Beck - the man drawing his paycheck from a corporation owned by a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and another guy, a Saudi Prince. Bachmann made her living working for the IRS, enforcing a law that was cut and copied from the Communist Manifesto. I could go on, but want someone to tell me something I don't know about the Tea Party.

 

[Buford]

One example is their leaders are lunatics. Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Michelle Bauchman, Christine O'Donnall, Pumpkin-head, etc and they believe shit that doesn't exist (like death panels, Obama's a socialist, a marxist, a Kenyan, etc).

Another example was when they marched on Washington just 6 months into the President's first term. WTF can a President do, any President, in his first 6 months in office that would be so outragous that would predicate a march on Washington with a rally at the Washington Monument? When you look at the only other two rallys and marches of that size:

• MLK civil rights march
• the 2004 anti-war rally

and what was the reason for those events, then you look at the tea party rally and hear what the people there said was their reasons to march, there's something wrong with the picture. Half the shit they said was non-sense and the one thing that was anything close to being a valid issue (government spending), they say nothing about cutting the defense budget. If you're really serious about cutting back government spending, that's where you start.

They're a bunch of idiots who don't even educate themselves on the issues of the day. They just get their little pamphlet from Dick Army and go off to do what it say's.

Obama himself said he preferred to hang with Marxist professors in college. Obama himself said he was born in Kenya in his promo booklet from 1991. Wake up. You were fooled and millions of other Americans were fooled. We told ya, but you're all just so gosh darn smart.

As much as I don't like the Tea Party, I really find Barack Obama more objectionable. For instance, that Obama book has been around a number of years... and Obama didn't already read it? Yeah, right. I bet he has that book memorized. But, let's suppose for a moment that the book got it wrong. Obama let a lie stand. So, Obama would be a liar.

We've heard, in its context, the things that Rev. (sic) Wright had to say about the white people. EVERYBODY is acquainted with Obama's racist and Marxist leanings. Obama even put Sotomayor on the Supreme Court:

http://christwire.org/2009/05/sonia-sotomayor-socialist-commie-yearbook-quote/

I won't let the Tea Party off just yet. They had Glenn Beck - the man drawing his paycheck from a corporation owned by a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and another guy, a Saudi Prince. Bachmann made her living working for the IRS, enforcing a law that was cut and copied from the Communist Manifesto. I could go on, but want someone to tell me something I don't know about the Tea Party.

The Tea Party is not Glenn Beck's. The vast majority of the Tea Party are average hard-working Americans who simply want smaller govt intrusion into their lives and less money taken out of their pay so they can take care of their own family first. I have attended many TP events and I am certainly not a Glenn Beck fan. There is a lot of propaganda flying around these days. It takes some time to filter out the BS from the facts.

 

[BuddyColt]

Obama himself said he preferred to hang with Marxist professors in college. Obama himself said he was born in Kenya in his promo booklet from 1991. Wake up. You were fooled and millions of other Americans were fooled. We told ya, but you're all just so gosh darn smart.

As much as I don't like the Tea Party, I really find Barack Obama more objectionable. For instance, that Obama book has been around a number of years... and Obama didn't already read it? Yeah, right. I bet he has that book memorized. But, let's suppose for a moment that the book got it wrong. Obama let a lie stand. So, Obama would be a liar.

We've heard, in its context, the things that Rev. (sic) Wright had to say about the white people. EVERYBODY is acquainted with Obama's racist and Marxist leanings. Obama even put Sotomayor on the Supreme Court:

http://christwire.org/2009/05/sonia-sotomayor-socialist-commie-yearbook-quote/

I won't let the Tea Party off just yet. They had Glenn Beck - the man drawing his paycheck from a corporation owned by a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and another guy, a Saudi Prince. Bachmann made her living working for the IRS, enforcing a law that was cut and copied from the Communist Manifesto. I could go on, but want someone to tell me something I don't know about the Tea Party.

The Tea Party is not Glenn Beck's. The vast majority of the Tea Party are average hard-working Americans who simply want smaller govt intrusion into their lives and less money taken out of their pay so they can take care of their own family first. I have attended many TP events and I am certainly not a Glenn Beck fan. There is a lot of propaganda flying around these days. It takes some time to filter out the BS from the facts.

I am going on perception, but what I see is what I see: large rallies headed up by Glenn Beck and people like Herman Cain as a major speaker. I know Herman personally and even when I would catch him in a lie, he'd go right back to the lie a week after he got busted.

I once challenged the Tea Party on a sign that a man was carrying and it is now liberal fodder to "prove" the Tea Party is racist:

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S38VioxnBaI]TEA PARTY RACISM: What The Media Won't Show You About Teabagger Racism - YouTube[/ame]

See it at 3: 40 into the video (BTW, some of that stuff is true and funny, but one guy can muck it up - and in this case, since it was not condemned until AFTER the fact - and the Tea Party never apologized for that guy, it is what it is.

I had a blood bath in a Tea Party setting once when I challenged the Tea Party on that one. IF the Tea Party was not racist, they should have ejected that guy post haste.

I'm not wanting to start a flame fest with you, only giving you my perceptions based upon my experiences.

The Tea Party talks a lot about cutting the cost of government, but they have been forced to sign onto the most costly wastes of taxpayer money in recorded history. Sometimes it's a question of where the "cuts" are supposed to come from.

We can get past generalities. I'm still having a hard time with a "movement" who recruits a former IRS agent. But, if I get 'em wrong, I'm sure you'll steer someone that will address my concerns. Thanks.