Who and How: Progressives respond

[JoeB131]

translation: I cant answer the questions. I lost the debate but I"m still a libcommie because I place no value on thinking.

Translation- You really don't know jack shit about China, but you keep repeating whatever shit you read on a John Birch Website.

 

[JoeB131]

What, are you 20yrs old or something? You must get your facts from Hildabeast.org or something. Reagans economic expansion was the best this country has seen in years. I was there, I know.

Uh, Guy, I'm 53.

And I'm old enough to remember what a Middle Class actually looks like. A middle class is my Dad with a HS Education and Union membership making enough money to buy a house, own vacation property, and being able to raise five kids. That's what a Middle Class looks like.

Before your Boy Reagan started dismantling it.

Fact is, the economic expansion under Reagan never reached the middle class. Middle class wages declined under Reagan, only slightly rose under Clinton, and declined under Dubya Bush.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

translation: I cant answer the questions. I lost the debate but I"m still a libcommie because I place no value on thinking.

Translation- You really don't know jack shit about China, but you keep repeating whatever shit you read on a John Birch Website.

dear, you don't think China eliminated 40% of the world's poverty the instant they switched to Republican capitalism? Did you think the Girl Scouts eliminated 40% of the world poverty.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Before your Boy Reagan started dismantling it.

1000% stupid of course. Reagan was conservative: for capitalism and freedom. Today the govt is bigger than ever and more liberal than ever. If you want to know what happened to the middle class:

Liberals with their unions taxes and deficits shipped 50 million jobs to China and India and then invited in 20 million illegals to take the remaining jobs and bid down the wages.

This is not to mention the liberal attack on the family and schools which rendered another 50 million Americans unfit to hold middle class jobs.

The more you lie to yourself about what happened the harder it is to look in the mirror. Liberals are destroying America and you are as blind to it as the Nazis were to Hitler and the Russians were to Stalin.

 

[JoeB131]

dear, you don't think China eliminated 40% of the world's poverty the instant they switched to Republican capitalism? Did you think the Girl Scouts eliminated 40% of the world poverty.

They didn't. Most Chinese live in abject poverty. It's why they kill themselves when they lose their slave labor jobs working for apple.

 

[JoeB131]

Liberals with their unions taxes and deficits shipped 50 million jobs to China and India and then invited in 20 million illegals to take the remaining jobs and bid down the wages.

Are you the kind of retard who blames a rape victim for how she dresses?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Most Chinese live in abject poverty. .

Shows how purely stupid and dangerous a liberal is. Their income has gone up 33 times from what is was before they the switched to Republican capitalism and from what it was when liberalism slowly starved 60 million to death.

Sounds like you should go back to defending Castro's concentration camp island some more? Which do you think makes you look dumber???


GDP per capita table
China
GDP per capita, current $US GDP per capita, current PPP$ GDP per capita growth, % GDP per capita at current PPP $, compared to US (US=100)
1980 313.1 302.3 3.5
1981 292.2 343.0 3.8 3.6
1982 281.9 391.2 7.4 3.8
1983 298.5 445.1 9.4 4.0
1984 303.3 524.0 13.7 4.5
1985 295.5 605.2 11.9 4.8
1986 282.0 661.3 7.1 5.0
1987 302.0 744.5 9.8 5.3
1988 370.8 844.3 9.6 5.4
1989 408.0 899.5 2.6 5.5
1990 353.8 954.4 2.3 5.6
1991 366.2 1,063.0 7.8 6.1
1992 426.6 1,227.4 12.9 6.9
1993 540.9 1,416.2 12.7 7.6
1994 486.2 1,617.7 11.8 8.2
1995 625.0 1,812.7 9.8 8.8
1996 728.8 2,009.3 8.9 9.3
1997 796.8 2,211.5 8.2 9.9
1998 837.8 2,387.9 6.8 10.2
1999 875.1 2,587.4 6.7 10.6
2000 941.2 2,846.9 7.6 11.0
2001 1,032.1 3,131.7 7.5 11.6
2002 1,133.1 3,446.8 8.4 12.3
2003 1,277.2 3,844.2 9.4 12.9
2004 1,496.0 4,323.4 9.5 13.9
2005 1,749.3 4,937.6 10.6 15.1
2006 2,124.9 5,704.3 12.1 16.5
2007 2,652.4 6,653.2 13.6 18.4
2008 3,424.4 7,399.6 9.1 20.2
2009 3,826.0 8,103.3 8.7 23.1
2010 4,437.0 9,012.9 9.9 25.1
2011 5,428.8 10,006.4 8.8 27.3
2012 6,193.8 10,922.5 7.2 29.3
2013 6,958.9 11,885.8 7.2 31.1
2014 7,589.0 12,879.9 6.8 32.6
2015 8,154.4 13,801.1 6.2 33.9
2016 8,659.4 14,813.0 5.7 35.3
2017 9,259.3 15,941.8 5.4 36.7
2018 9,935.7 17,188.1 5.5 38.1
2019 10,662.3 18,544.1 5.8 39.7
2020 11,449.2 20,003.6 5.8 41.4

Source: IMF World Economic Outlook (WEO), April 2015

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

They didn't. Most Chinese live in abject poverty. It's why they kill themselves when they lose their slave labor jobs working for apple.

Dear, suicide rate is 13/100,000 here and only 8/100,000 in China. Its like you go out of your way to be stupid! You picked the suicide thing up from the liberal press which is always looking for childlike dupes like you. Are you proud of your liberalism?

 

[JoeB131]

Shows how purely stupid and dangerous a liberal is. Their income has gone up 33 times from what is was before they the switched to Republican capitalism and from what it was when liberalism slowly starved 60 million to death.

are you like a fucking retard? Do you realize that 1) 11K is not a huge amount of money and 2) Most Chinese are making WELL BELOW 11K.

The Chinese do not have "Capitalism". What they have is State run industry where they invite big corporations in and give them a steady supply of cheap labor. It's absolute fucking insanity on both sides.

In fact, the closest comparison to what China is doing is Nazi Germany or Fascist Italy, not America.

Man, you are dumb fuck. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

 

[JoeB131]

Dear, suicide rate is 13/100,000 here and only 8/100,000 in China. Its like you go out of your way to be stupid! You picked the suicide thing up from the liberal press which is always looking for childlike dupes like you. Are you proud of your liberalism?

We have a high suicide rate because we let every asshole int he world own a gun.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So not surprisingly, the Progs have not identified a single CEO who has enslaved and/or abused them personally

 

[G.T.]

So not surprisingly, the Progs have not identified a single CEO who has enslaved and/or abused them personally

Production is up.
Wages are down.
CEO pay AS A PERCENT of worker pay is exponentially greater than: ever.

CEOs are not evil.

A Nation being run by crony Capitalism is.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

So not surprisingly, the Progs have not identified a single CEO who has enslaved and/or abused them personally

Production is up.
Wages are down.
CEO pay AS A PERCENT of worker pay is exponentially greater than: ever.

CEOs are not evil.

A Nation being run by crony Capitalism is.

Do you have the name of the person exploiting you?

Tim Cook, CEO Apple?
Bernard Hees, CEO Heinz Ketchup
Muhtar Kent, The Coca-Cola Company, CEO

 

[G.T.]

So not surprisingly, the Progs have not identified a single CEO who has enslaved and/or abused them personally

Production is up.
Wages are down.
CEO pay AS A PERCENT of worker pay is exponentially greater than: ever.

CEOs are not evil.

A Nation being run by crony Capitalism is.

Do you have the name of the person exploiting you?

Tim Cook, CEO Apple?
Bernard Hees, CEO Heinz Ketchup
Muhtar Kent, The Coca-Cola Company, CEO

Uncle sam.

 

[Dot Com]

I've read that CEO's are evil, they make more than the average worker, etc. Please tell us specifically who these evil CEO's are that are holding you back and how they are doing it.

Try to be specific and use real life examples.

For example:

• Walmart is fucking me as a consumer because they provide a wide variety of reasonably priced produts
• Apple forced me to buy an iPhone and now I can't feed my kids
• My Landlord, who provides me a safe home, with heat in winter and AC in summer, makes me pay rent every month. Evil

How are evil CEO's and corporation making you a slave and/or upsetting you

1 & 2 are produced in a Red commie country by sweatshop, sometimes bordering on slave labor. Interestingly, CEO's outsourcing like that is no prob for you. I thought rw'ers had a lock on the "job killing" label?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The Chinese do not have "Capitalism"..

So says the libcommie imbecile who supports Castro's communist concentration camp island. Here are 3 of the latest books on Chinese capitalism with which to begin your education.

"Capitalism With Chinese Characteristics"


"How China Became Capitalist"

In his new book titled Markets over Mao: The rise of private businesses in China, Lardy argues that even though SOEs still enjoy monopoly positions in some key sectors in China, such as energy and telecommunications, their role in the overall economy has diminished significantly over the years. Here are some of the facts he presents to back his thesis: in 2011, China’s state-controlled firms only accounted for about a quarter of the country’s industrial output; and their share in exports has dropped to about 11% today; in 2012, state firms were only responsible for about one-tenth of fixed investment in manufacturing. And in terms of employment, SOEs employed about 13% of China’s labor force in 2011, a dramatic decline compared with the 60% figure recorded in 1999.

 

[JoeB131]

Eddie, you can make all sorts of claims about China, but you've obviously never been to that shithole, or you wouldn't babble about it.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Eddie, you can make all sorts of claims about China, but you've obviously never been to that shithole, or you wouldn't babble about it.

China is a "hole" that instantly eliminated 40% of the world's poverty by switching to Republican capitalism. They now buy more cars then we do and have a huge growing middle class of 500 million.

Here are 3 of the latest books on Chinese capitalism, by people who have been there, with which to begin your education.

"Capitalism With Chinese Characteristics"


"How China Became Capitalist"

In his new book titled Markets over Mao:

 

[JoeB131]

China is a "hole" that instantly eliminated 40% of the world's poverty by switching to Republican capitalism. They now buy more cars then we do and have a huge growing middle class of 500 million.

Uh, no, they really didn't.

But you do have a point, China is what Republicans want to do in America.

Pictured- Republican Paradise!

 

[Dot Com]

^ a conservative/libertarian utopia. They love coal just like the USA's conservatives do.