While Canada Slept - Excellent read

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    [ame=http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/077102276X/qid=1090235049/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/104-9092019-1771169?v=glance&s=books]While Canada Slept : How We Lost Our Place in the World[/ame]

    Great book for people on both sides of the border to check out. It talks about how Canada lost its place as the worlds moral voice, and how Canada is still living on a reputation created by accomplishments long past.

    I highly recommend this book for Americans as well. It may give you some insight into the current state of Canada.
     
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    I read 'the inside flap.' Looks very interesting, I'll consider a purchase or library check out. I don't know how Canada's tax rate compares with ours, but I figure it would be very expensive to have our military and all the social programs you all do. I think that's where your money goes?
     
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    I don't think anyone has every expected to have a military as large as yours. Not many countries can achieve that kind of power. Most Canadians, including myself, are fine as a middle power. But our army is grossly underfunded. The whole world saw that when we had to ask the U.S. to transport our army to the middle east becuase we didn't have the means to get them there ourselves. What we need is better funding for the military we currently have (Not with manpower but modern equipment. (there are plans for this which you can find in the Movin' on up thread - But take that with a grain of salt, after all this is the liberal party we're talking about).

    to elaborate.

    The U.S. spends about 2% of its GDP on the military.

    The average that most countries spend, and what is recomended by the U.N. is about 1.5% of the GDP

    Canada Spends about 0.7% of it GDP on the military.

    These numbers are what was spent in 2002.

    I think that just by looking at those figures you can see the problem.
     
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    Doomer I hear you about both the size of our military and the funding of yours. On our side I'd like to make a point that seems missing to the average citizen, though not their governments. The US military got to the size it did as a direct result of the end of WWII and the Cold War. We were basically forced into defending Europe, fighting in Korea, and checking the Soviets. For that reason, we had to, there was no one else. (Not a slam at Canada, with its relatively small population.)

    We didn't set out to be a sole super power, history did that. Seems like it's time for all parties to do their part, especially since like it or not, events seem to be pointing to a long-term world war. Just my take.
     
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    Exactly! That's something I've always thought as well. Canada can never have a large military, so we don't have have an advanced small military (Think an expanded JSF-2) and then a well equipped peacekeeper branch. This way we can have an asset that would be useful to our allies and keeper our tradition of peacekeeping alive.

    Frankly, I think we need to do a massive dump of our cold-war era equipment, maybe even downsize our numbers and bases, but use the resources to fund this new dual-structured military.
     
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    I had trouble with the link too. try again in a few minutes. The site seems to be bogged down.
     
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    After A few trys I managed to get the link open.

     
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    Canada, good show! Thanks for the read! BTW my dad said during WWII, the GI's were always glad if Canadian or Australian troops were working with them.

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